Military Personnel Should Be Tolerated, not Celebrated!

Wordslinger wrote:Face it folks, war is pure evil . . . there's never been a "good" war, and never will be. It's also true that wars HAVE NEVER been started by the people who will fight and die in them. NEVER. The Japanese Naval Pilot divebombing at Pearl Harbor was following orders -- which is exactly what military robots do. The Americans who rolled their Bradleys into Iraq didn't choose to do so on their own. The awful truth is that soldiers have been and are nothing more than tools for causing the death and destruction some politician(s) desire. In today's world, soldiers are a necessary evil. You can be grateful for their efforts, courage and dedication - - but celebrate them as though they were the best use we can find for our youth? What a farce! Our need for soldiers is nothing more than a blaring signal of our failure at civilization. Screw war and all those who start them.

Bob wrote:Ya'll are wasting your breath with this one. The vast majority of the posters think like pacedog when it comes to this. They are not receptive to any criticism of the military. The military is probably more sacrosanct to them than their own religion.
It's hard enough to even get them to ever question the civilian leaders' decisions to use military force. But it's downright impossible to get them to question the rank and file. When you do that that just makes the people around these parts hate and despise you because that makes you a traitor and a coward in their eyes.

Watcher wrote:

Here's the thing: it doesn't matter what those people think. I'm not worried about what they think or do. They matter not one iota to me.

Watcher wrote:

Bob wrote:Ya'll are wasting your breath with this one. The vast majority of the posters think like pacedog when it comes to this. They are not receptive to any criticism of the military. The military is probably more sacrosanct to them than their own religion.
It's hard enough to even get them to ever question the civilian leaders' decisions to use military force. But it's downright impossible to get them to question the rank and file. When you do that that just makes the people around these parts hate and despise you because that makes you a traitor and a coward in their eyes.

Here's the thing: it doesn't matter what those people think. I'm not worried about what they think or do. They matter not one iota to me.

Wordslinger wrote:Face it folks, war is pure evil . . . there's never been a "good" war, and never will be. It's also true that wars HAVE NEVER been started by the people who will fight and die in them. NEVER. The Japanese Naval Pilot divebombing at Pearl Harbor was following orders -- which is exactly what military robots do. The Americans who rolled their Bradleys into Iraq didn't choose to do so on their own. The awful truth is that soldiers have been and are nothing more than tools for causing the death and destruction some politician(s) desire. In today's world, soldiers are a necessary evil. You can be grateful for their efforts, courage and dedication - - but celebrate them as though they were the best use we can find for our youth? What a farce! Our need for soldiers is nothing more than a blaring signal of our failure at civilization. Screw war and all those who start them.

Wordslinger wrote:
Their opinion of what a hero or a traitor is has no credibility since they are unable to distinguish the difference between what's right and what's wrong. Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with truth. I spent twenty years on a book about Simon Girty -- America's biggest frontier traitor and renegade, and learned without doubt he was a true hero and a noble character. So much for phony history! Your responses thus far are ingratiating. Wish more of my fellow Americans understood that military folk are necessary evil, and nothing more. There is no honor in killing. None.

Wordslinger wrote:Face it folks, war is pure evil . . . there's never been a "good" war, and never will be. It's also true that wars HAVE NEVER been started by the people who will fight and die in them. NEVER. The Japanese Naval Pilot divebombing at Pearl Harbor was following orders -- which is exactly what military robots do. The Americans who rolled their Bradleys into Iraq didn't choose to do so on their own. The awful truth is that soldiers have been and are nothing more than tools for causing the death and destruction some politician(s) desire. In today's world, soldiers are a necessary evil. You can be grateful for their efforts, courage and dedication - - but celebrate them as though they were the best use we can find for our youth? What a farce! Our need for soldiers is nothing more than a blaring signal of our failure at civilization. Screw war and all those who start them.

Watcher wrote:The military asskissing is vexatious at best.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Thou shall not kill......unless ?

VectorMan wrote:

Of course they should be celebrated. Many men and women died to protect your right to post this silly shit.

riceme wrote:

VectorMan wrote:

Of course they should be celebrated. Many men and women died to protect your right to post this silly shit.

Goddamn right, Vector.

And, just because someone supports and celebrates our military personnel does by NO means imply that they also support and celebrate war.

Get it straight, "Wordslinger."

PBulldog2 wrote:

riceme wrote:

VectorMan wrote:

Of course they should be celebrated. Many men and women died to protect your right to post this silly shit.

Goddamn right, Vector.

And, just because someone supports and celebrates our military personnel does by NO means imply that they also support and celebrate war.

Get it straight, "Wordslinger."

Double ditto!

Bob wrote:Question for watcher.

What if you're a citizen of Baghdad and George Bush lands the shock and awe on top of your house and kills your family but you survive?
Do you think it would be morally right for you to want to kill the ones who did this to your family?

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:Question for watcher.

What if you're a citizen of Baghdad and George Bush lands the shock and awe on top of your house and kills your family but you survive?
Do you think it would be morally right for you to want to kill the ones who did this to your family?

As you well know, far fewer innocent civilians died during the Iraq war than during he reign of Saddam Hussein.

As you well know too, it was the United Nations who authorized the use of force against Iraq along with the vast majority of Democrats. Prominent Democrats who had supported an invasion for many, many years.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Well they better start fighting the real enemy of freedom...government....I don't think the Vietnamese were after our Bill of Rights....