NBA thread

2seaoat wrote:LaBron's shooting percentage in the third quater, I believe was just 21%.

He has a known history of folding at crunch time.....again nothing new in this game and nothing unexpected in this series other than Curry had two cold shooting nights which allowed the nuts to talk about nonsense.  He needs to be coached and put into a winning framework......but having exposed his ego.....that will never happen.....so he will continue to be the bridesmaid and has the patent on losing when it matters.

2seaoat wrote:I thought the whole presentation on TV when he went to the Heat was a horrible mistake, but now I believe it was not a mistake....it was the essence of why the man cannot win.....his ego and ball hogging/gunning nature is out of control....I doubt there is a coach in the league who could control him to build a team that could win at the highest levels of competition...........0.153% and next year it drops to 0.142%......the best player in the world.....totally predictable.

Joanimaroni wrote:BOF......excuses.

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PkrBum wrote:Less than .40 shooting and an amazing amount of shots. A champ would've tried something else last nite.

PkrBum wrote:13/33 w 6 turnovers... it's comical how much you can ignore to believe what you desperately wish to believe.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:BOF......excuses.

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Before these playoffs began, back when LeBron still had Love and Irving, I still predicted that the Cavs would reach the finals but would lose.  It turns out that I was right and wrong there.   They did in fact reach the finals and lose, though after seeing how this series panned out and how LeBron alone was enough to give this Golden State team a run for their money, I suspect that with Love and Irving healthy they could have probably won rings in year one of the formation of this team.  I think it is fairly clear why the Cavs lost that series.  They were tapped out of players.  I don't expect you or 2seaoat to understand something as fundamental as the idea that teammates are a factor that influences success and failure in team sports.

All that said, if Love does in fact return next year and assuming we don't see any season-ending injuries from Love or Irving, it seems very likely that the Cavs will get a ring next year.  And perhaps the next, and the next.   At the very least we can pencil them in to the next five NBA finals, as there is simply no one in east that will be able to hang with this trio.

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:BOF......excuses.

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Before these playoffs began, back when LeBron still had Love and Irving, I still predicted that the Cavs would reach the finals but would lose.  It turns out that I was right and wrong there.   They did in fact reach the finals and lose, though after seeing how this series panned out and how LeBron alone was enough to give this Golden State team a run for their money, I suspect that with Love and Irving healthy they could have probably won rings in year one of the formation of this team.  I think it is fairly clear why the Cavs lost that series.  They were tapped out of players.  I don't expect you or 2seaoat to understand something as fundamental as the idea that teammates are a factor that influences success and failure in team sports.

All that said, if Love does in fact return next year and assuming we don't see any season-ending injuries from Love or Irving, it seems very likely that the Cavs will get a ring next year.  And perhaps the next, and the next.   At the very least we can pencil them in to the next five NBA finals, as there is simply no one in east that will be able to hang with this trio.

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Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I thought the whole presentation on TV when he went to the Heat was a horrible mistake, but now I believe it was not a mistake....it was the essence of why the man cannot win.....his ego and ball hogging/gunning nature is out of control....I doubt there is a coach in the league who could control him to build a team that could win at the highest levels of competition...........0.153% and next year it drops to 0.142%......the best player in the world.....totally predictable.

That was a huge turn off for me concerning LaBron. I can't imagine a PR manager doing that....it had to be all LaBron using  Hollywood flair. The sad part....he didn't need to people were following him.

Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I thought the whole presentation on TV when he went to the Heat was a horrible mistake, but now I believe it was not a mistake....it was the essence of why the man cannot win.....his ego and ball hogging/gunning nature is out of control....I doubt there is a coach in the league who could control him to build a team that could win at the highest levels of competition...........0.153% and next year it drops to 0.142%......the best player in the world.....totally predictable.

That was a huge turn off for me concerning LaBron. I can't imagine a PR manager doing that....it had to be all LaBron using  Hollywood flair. The sad part....he didn't need to people were following him.

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I thought the whole presentation on TV when he went to the Heat was a horrible mistake, but now I believe it was not a mistake....it was the essence of why the man cannot win.....his ego and ball hogging/gunning nature is out of control....I doubt there is a coach in the league who could control him to build a team that could win at the highest levels of competition...........0.153% and next year it drops to 0.142%......the best player in the world.....totally predictable.

That was a huge turn off for me concerning LaBron. I can't imagine a PR manager doing that....it had to be all LaBron using  Hollywood flair. The sad part....he didn't need to people were following him.

I had really been flummoxed by the aversion many Baby Boomers have for Lebron.

I thought it might just be nostalgia for an earlier era, but your and Joanie's comments certainly cleared that up.

Uppity ....

.... makes perfect sense now!

Thanks for the honesty!

Joanimaroni wrote:
It's sad because he is a very good player, but his egotistical attitude got in his way.

2seaoat wrote:Steph Curry who simply wins by playing team ball.......nobody on this great team needs to say they are the best player in the world....