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Update: 11/22/2016 WHY does our resident, proud Heathen, Wordslinger, spend so much time posting about...religion.

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PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:http://news.discovery.com/history/religion/fear-of-vengeful-gods-may-have-helped-societies-expand-160211.htm


Sunis vs. Shiias.  Christians vs. Jews. Islam vs. everyone. Catholics vs. Protestants.  Jews vs. Palestinians.  Hindus vs. Muslims.  And the list goes on.

Your article is pure, unadulterated bullshit.  Religion is the single most malicious, dis-harmonizing element in human culture.

Fuck all religions, including yours.

Calm down comrade... this speaks to the utility (as bof pointed out) in the development of larger homogeneous societies. I've always called religion a control... but often was necessary and helpful. It's not an endorsement to acknowledge or study that... it's simply a matter of fact.



Wouldn't you agree that government is also a necessary control that offers even greater utility without the need for belief in ancient mythology?

Isn't it better to have good, empirically proven reasons for living a certain way - or, advocating certain policies - rather than advocating those same policies out of a fear of retribution from a non-existent god?


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I've never argued that govt has no necessary function.

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Isn't it better to have good, empirically proven reasons for living a certain way - or, advocating certain policies - rather than advocating those same policies out of a fear of retribution from a non-existent god?


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boards of FL wrote:Isn't it better to have good, empirically proven reasons for living a certain way - or, advocating certain policies - rather than advocating those same policies out of a fear of retribution from a non-existent god?

Where do those "empirical reasons" come from for you?

You make up your list, I make up mine and then we see which ones we agree upon? How does that work?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Isn't it better to have good, empirically proven reasons for living a certain way - or, advocating certain policies - rather than advocating those same policies out of a fear of retribution from a non-existent god?

Where do those "empirical reasons" come from for you?

You make up your list, I make up mine and then we see which ones we agree upon?  How does that work?


Markle's right -- his reasons for living a certain way would certainly oppose yours or mine. Markle's a strident racist and classicist. He likes to laugh at people who have problems, unless they're rich. And, oh yes, he calls himself a Christian.

Markle

Markle

What is the most evil State in America? Yesterday at 1:40 pm
Wordslinger

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Georgia. Hands down. Next they'll seek the right to stone female adulterers ....

http://www.care2.com/causes/georgia-bill-plans-to-bring-prayer-back-into-public-schools.html

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote: What is the most evil State in America? Yesterday at 1:40 pm
Wordslinger

Posts: 5647
Join date: 2012-06-23
Location: Pace
Georgia. Hands down. Next they'll seek the right to stone female adulterers ....

http://www.care2.com/causes/georgia-bill-plans-to-bring-prayer-back-into-public-schools.html


Thanks for repeating my post. I rather like it ...

Markle

Markle

2/22/2016

And Wordslinger strikes again!  Talk about an obsession!

View newest post   This is how you disembowel assholes who use the bible to defend discrimination:   by Wordslinger
https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t23839-this-is-how-you-disembowel-assholes-who-use-the-bible-to-defend-discrimination#275362

Who is using the Holy Bible to defend discrimination?  What does Lame Duck President Obama use to justify his discrimination?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:2/22/2016

And Wordslinger strikes again!  Talk about an obsession!

View newest post   This is how you disembowel assholes who use the bible to defend discrimination:   by Wordslinger
https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t23839-this-is-how-you-disembowel-assholes-who-use-the-bible-to-defend-discrimination#275362

Who is using the Holy Bible to defend discrimination?  What does Lame Duck President Obama use to justify his discrimination?


As you well know, White racists often try to use biblical terms (Ham, etc.) to justify their racism. Hard right fundamentalist Christians use biblical terms to denigrate homosexuality, adultery, etc. Why do you feel compelled to bring Obama into this thread, and who here gives a shit about your everyday need to insult our first black president? LOL

Markle

Markle

My Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger lashes out again...because?

3/17/2016  Christian Prophet challenges Lions and loses ....   by Wordslinger

ANOTHER UPDATE, about Wordslinger's paranoia about religion. Why is my good friend SO obsessed about this issue?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:My Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger lashes out again...because?

3/17/2016  Christian Prophet challenges Lions and loses ....   by Wordslinger

ANOTHER UPDATE, about Wordslinger's paranoia about religion. Why is my good friend SO obsessed about this issue?


S'funny ... I think the story is silly as hell. Markle says it makes me afraid. And warm is cold, and dry is as wet as up is down.

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boards of FL wrote:Isn't it better to have good, empirically proven reasons for living a certain way - or, advocating certain policies - rather than advocating those same policies out of a fear of retribution from a non-existent god?

Ha ha ha ha.... Boards came back after all....

You need to post a reply on this thread. Poster Markle is talking Voodoo Economics again.


https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t24032-hillary-vs-trump-will-be-more-than-just-an-election

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Floridatexan

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Note to Markle: God gave you a brain. Use it.

Markle

Markle

3/18/2016
Hardcore Christian right in decline due to belligerency . . .yaaay team! by Wordslinger

My good friend Wordslinger, on the move again. Anyone this paranoid and obsessed about what someone ELSE believes should really seek help! It's abnormal.

Markle

Markle

And Wordslingers desperation goes on.
4/6/2016
View newest post   And people wonder why I'm down on religion!!   by Wordslinger 7 67 Today at 11:21 by polecat View newest post

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/05/this_will_make_you_even_madder_about_north_carolinas_anti_lgbt_law_right_wing_backers_have_the_gall_to_say_theyre_the_victims/?source=newsletter

If this bunch represents Christ, he can kiss my ass.

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Get off the drugs Markle. You announce nobody cares about my war on religion, yet the record of replies (214) and views (4110) exceeds any other thread ever posted on this forum.

On another subject, does Jesus fly a confederate flag on his pickup? You know, the one he drives to those "let's go fuck with the queers" rallies in North Carolina?

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I don't think you sound like an anti-religion nutcase for not believing... because I don't believe either. You sound like an anti-religion nutcase because of your obsession with it. Almost militant with it sometimes. 4 out of 5 people in this country identify with religion on some level... so you are insulting someone's mom, friend, spouse and many other people we non-believers may actually respect for many reasons other than a your belief that their faith is wacky.

I've experienced great loss in my life and sometimes wish I had the afterlife crutch to ease the pain... I don't blame people for that or belittle them. In fact... in some ways... I envy them. You would do well to acknowledge the order it gave society.

Religion is not always bad.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:I don't think you sound like an anti-religion nutcase for not believing... because I don't believe either. You sound like an anti-religion nutcase because of your obsession with it. Almost militant with it sometimes. 4 out of 5 people in this country identify with religion on some level... so you are insulting someone's mom, friend, spouse and many other people we non-believers may actually respect for many reasons other than a your belief that their faith is wacky.

I've experienced great loss in my life and sometimes wish I had the afterlife crutch to ease the pain... I don't blame people for that or belittle them. In fact... in some ways... I envy them. You would do well to acknowledge the order it gave society.

Religion is not always bad.

As another atheist, I respect your opinion about keeping quiet about religion, because some of its effects are good.

I see religion as a disease, and I see one of my responsibilities as a fellow human being to wipe out disease, with all my heart and passion.  


Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about shutting down anyone's right to ameliorate the emotional costs of having lost a loved one.   That isn't the problem.  Believe what ever the fuck you want to, but DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FORCE ME TO DO THE SAME.

To me, and thousands of other atheist activists (anti-theists), the struggle is absolutely worth while.  

You know religion is bullshit, but you want me to keep quiet about my dislike and distrust of it, because I might offend someone.  Really!  Well baby, when an Islamic Terrorist or a Christian abortion hospital bomber do their work -- in the name of their Gods -- ONLY COWARDS BACK AWAY FROM BURYING THESE BASTARDS.

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I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Let's look at it a different way: religion, by its very nature, is evil. The idea that one person's imaginary friend is better somehow than someone elses', is a one way ticket to conflict.

Fuck all religion and those who insist that theirs' is the only right way. We'd all be better off if religion itself was outlawed!!

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Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Let's look at it a different way: religion, by its very nature, is evil. The idea that one person's imaginary friend is better somehow than someone elses', is a one way ticket to conflict.

Fuck all religion and those who insist that theirs' is the only right way. We'd all be better off if religion itself was outlawed!!

Ok... but I consider the leftist belief/faith that govt is the all powerful force in this country a religion in itself.

This country and our constitution were founded to protect and promote the individual as the power holder.

The intent was that an individual that caused no one harm was at liberty to exercise their freedom as they pleased.

Your religion is the antithesis of that principle... and certainly as evil as what you project upon christian americans.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Let's look at it a different way:  religion, by its very nature, is evil.  The idea that one person's imaginary friend is better somehow than someone elses', is a one way ticket to conflict.

Fuck all religion and those who insist that theirs' is the only right way.  We'd all be better off if religion itself was outlawed!!

Ok... but I consider the leftist belief/faith that govt is the all powerful force in this country a religion in itself.

This country and our constitution were founded to protect and promote the individual as the power holder.

The intent was that an individual that caused no one harm was at liberty to exercise their freedom as they pleased.

Your religion is the antithesis of that principle... and certainly as evil as what you project upon christian americans.

consider whatever you like, but no one on the left would accept that government is religion. Not in any way shape or form. What you're considering is theocracy, not secularism.

Show me where I project evil upon christian Americans! I'd like to see all religion outlawed, that doesn't mean I'm for harming or incarcerating people who believe.

It appears I know exactly what I don't want -- religion -- being forced on me by anyone at any time. You on the other hand claim you don't believe in God, but are evidently willing to "go along" with whatever dogma of the moment appears popular.

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Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Let's look at it a different way:  religion, by its very nature, is evil.  The idea that one person's imaginary friend is better somehow than someone elses', is a one way ticket to conflict.

Fuck all religion and those who insist that theirs' is the only right way.  We'd all be better off if religion itself was outlawed!!

Ok... but I consider the leftist belief/faith that govt is the all powerful force in this country a religion in itself.

This country and our constitution were founded to protect and promote the individual as the power holder.

The intent was that an individual that caused no one harm was at liberty to exercise their freedom as they pleased.

Your religion is the antithesis of that principle... and certainly as evil as what you project upon christian americans.

consider whatever you like, but no one on the left would accept that government is religion. Not in any way shape or form. What you're considering is theocracy, not secularism.

Show me where I project evil upon christian Americans! I'd like to see all religion outlawed, that doesn't mean I'm for harming or incarcerating people who believe.

It appears I know exactly what I don't want -- religion -- being forced on me by anyone at any time. You on the other hand claim you don't believe in God, but are evidently willing to "go along" with whatever dogma of the moment appears popular.

It's the belief/faith in all powerful govt that I consider a religion. What you force on me... the individual... are a myriad of subjective social policies that I must partake in at the threat of penalty/incarceration. For instance the obamacaid mandate.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Let's look at it a different way:  religion, by its very nature, is evil.  The idea that one person's imaginary friend is better somehow than someone elses', is a one way ticket to conflict.

Fuck all religion and those who insist that theirs' is the only right way.  We'd all be better off if religion itself was outlawed!!

Ok... but I consider the leftist belief/faith that govt is the all powerful force in this country a religion in itself.

This country and our constitution were founded to protect and promote the individual as the power holder.

The intent was that an individual that caused no one harm was at liberty to exercise their freedom as they pleased.

Your religion is the antithesis of that principle... and certainly as evil as what you project upon christian americans.

consider whatever you like, but no one on the left would accept that government is religion.  Not in any way shape or form.  What you're considering is theocracy, not secularism.  

Show me where I project evil upon christian Americans!  I'd like to see all religion outlawed, that doesn't mean I'm for harming or incarcerating people who believe.  

It appears I know exactly what I don't want -- religion -- being forced on me by anyone at any time.  You on the other hand claim you don't believe in God, but are evidently willing to "go along" with whatever dogma of the moment appears popular.  

It's the belief/faith in all powerful govt that I consider a religion. What you force on me... the individual... are a myriad of subjective social policies that I must partake in at the threat of penalty/incarceration. For instance the obamacaid mandate.

The only thing wrong with Obamacaid is there are privately owned insurance companies involved. Other than suck profits from policy holders and doctors, what else do they do? What we need, and will surely get to is Single Payer Healthcare. Why should good healthcare be extended only to the rich?

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'm not trying to silence you or anyone. I just think that ramping it up to an almost militaristic vitriol is radical. It follows the same logic that the islamic extremists are using to justify the slaughter of christians and infidels. It's dangerous.

I'm right there with you about using govt to enforce religious positions. But you have to understand that once the govt becomes the vehicle for subjective progressive solutions it can and will be used that way for each and every movement.

Religion in govt is no different to me than the temperance movement... or eugenics... or hearst outlawing hemp.

Once the door is opened... everyone will run through it.

Let's look at it a different way:  religion, by its very nature, is evil.  The idea that one person's imaginary friend is better somehow than someone elses', is a one way ticket to conflict.

Fuck all religion and those who insist that theirs' is the only right way.  We'd all be better off if religion itself was outlawed!!

Ok... but I consider the leftist belief/faith that govt is the all powerful force in this country a religion in itself.

This country and our constitution were founded to protect and promote the individual as the power holder.

The intent was that an individual that caused no one harm was at liberty to exercise their freedom as they pleased.

Your religion is the antithesis of that principle... and certainly as evil as what you project upon christian americans.

consider whatever you like, but no one on the left would accept that government is religion.  Not in any way shape or form.  What you're considering is theocracy, not secularism.  

Show me where I project evil upon christian Americans!  I'd like to see all religion outlawed, that doesn't mean I'm for harming or incarcerating people who believe.  

It appears I know exactly what I don't want -- religion -- being forced on me by anyone at any time.  You on the other hand claim you don't believe in God, but are evidently willing to "go along" with whatever dogma of the moment appears popular.  

It's the belief/faith in all powerful govt that I consider a religion. What you force on me... the individual... are a myriad of subjective social policies that I must partake in at the threat of penalty/incarceration. For instance the obamacaid mandate.

The only thing wrong with Obamacaid is there are privately owned insurance companies involved.  Other than suck profits from policy holders and doctors, what else do they do?  What we need, and will surely get to is Single Payer Healthcare.  Why should good healthcare be extended only to the rich?

This has what to do with your obsession with people of faith? Why so much hate for someone who doesn't bother you?

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