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Pensacola Discussion Forum » Politics » Update: 11/22/2016 WHY does our resident, proud Heathen, Wordslinger, spend so much time posting about...religion.

Update: 11/22/2016 WHY does our resident, proud Heathen, Wordslinger, spend so much time posting about...religion.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Of course a day isn't the amount of time it takes for the Earth to rotate.
Where in hell did anybody get an idea like that.
That's nothing but commie propaganda.

And why are they still searching for those two lost teenagers. For god sakes any fool knows they got out beyond the horizon and fell off the edge of the Earth.

And don't start asking how Noah got all those dinosaurs and other shit all together on that little boat. Obviously he was a dinosaur whisperer, anybody knows that.

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:Of course a day isn't the amount of time it takes for the Earth to rotate.
Where in hell did anybody get an idea like that.
That's nothing but commie propaganda.

And why are they still searching for those two lost teenagers.  For god sakes any fool knows they got out beyond the horizon and fell off the edge of the Earth.  

And don't start asking how Noah got all those dinosaurs and other shit all together on that little boat.  Obviously he was a dinosaur whisperer,  anybody knows that.

Please quote the Holy Bible where it states, unequivocally that a "day", as described in the Bible is 24 hours.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle,  for thousands and thousands of years (actually hundreds of thousands of years),  human beings have always experienced a session of daylight followed by a session of darkness.  And that has applied to all human beings everywhere on Earth no matter which part of the Earth's surface they happened to live on.  
Well except for the arctic and antarctic circles but very few humans have ever lived there.  Actually none.  lol

So it was the most logical thing ever in our history to invent a word for this cycle of daylight followed by darkness.
In the beginning that word was probably a grunt or something.  But a distinctive grunt which signified that the human was communicating a concept that we now all know as a "day".

If the creator of everything in existence then came along and told one of those goat herder bible authors that a "day" does NOT mean that,  and instead a "day" means thousands or millions of years,  then the creator of everything in existence must have been on an LSD trip.  Because that would be the most insane thing anyone could ever conceive of.  And frankly,  if the creator of everything in existence decided to confuse his createes that egregiously,  then I would have to think the creator of everything in existence is batshit crazy.  And I'm just not ready to accept that someone who is batshit crazy could have created anything,  much less a universe.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

By the way,  that was just the opinion of a fence-sitter.  I'm sure the forum liberals who pride themselves on being completely off-the-fence will want to give their opinion too.
But maybe the people who are always bragging about being so off the fence are afraid to do that.  Which puts them ON TOP of the fence and standing on their toes.  lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Lessee now.
The creator of everything tells the bible authors that he created the earth in 6 days.
At that time and then for the next 1800 years,  EVERYBODY who read that knew a day as a cycle of daylight and darkness lasting 24 hours.

It wasn't until science came along that anyone knew about anything else.

So God tricked everybody on earth for 1800 years and made them think  a day is a day.   But he really meant a day is thousands/millions years.

Wow.  And I thought Trump was bizarre.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I forgot that was in the Old Testament. So of course he tricked em for a lot longer than 1800 years. But who's counting after a thousand.

Markle

Markle

Typical from my good friend Bob...NOTHING.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

If you're seeing nothing in those posts,  markle,  then there can be only one explanation.  The devil musta made the words disappear.
I know that son of a bitch devil wants my soul. But he'll have to do better tricks than that to get it.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:Typical from my good friend Bob...NOTHING.

You see, your problem with Bob centers on the fact that he is self-confident and intellectually sophisticated enough to actually attempt to think for himself. And anyone, I repeat ANYONE who does think for themselves recognizes that religion is nothing but voodoo and show business -- like the barker in front of the freak tent at a State Fair, seducing rubes to pay the entry fee.

Bob's point about a day being the passage of time from sunup till sundown was brilliant -- and absolutely demolished your sham attempt to inject a little reality into your god's ridiculous journal on the six days of creation -- and all fundamentalist themes claiming creationism is genuine.

Like having a nose for which there was no need (God doesn't need to breathe out there or up there or down there wherever he or she or they supposedly reside), the idea the entire universe was crafted just 6,000 years ago -- that's 6,000 years where a day equals 24 of our current hours -- is like the rest of the crapola you work tirelessly to convince us all of -- up is down, wet is dry, cold is warm .... etc.

LOL

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle's not alone in this, wordslinger. He's in the same predicament as most of the human population.
It just seems to be so damn hard for them to say "I don't know".
And for those who are struggling with life, it seems to REALLY be hard to say "I don't know".
"There are no atheists in the foxholes" is not just a cliche. It's likely the most valid cliche they've ever invented.
And it applies just as well in the literal sense as it applies when taken as a metaphor for a hundred different scenarios just as scary as the literal one.
I've thought about it a lot, and I now feel pretty confident that if the cancer starts rearing it's ugly head, I'll be down on my knees praying to God, Jesus, Allah, Mohammed, Buddha, the Hindu Cow, the Mojo Man in New Orleans, Jim Jones and last but definitely not least, Oral Roberts himself. Or if he's dead (I can't remember), it'll be Benny Hinn.




Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

note for younger reader:  Oral Roberts and Benny Hill are the two names most associated with tv faith healers.  One from the past and one from the present.

I'm the original "tv generation".  I was born in 1949,  the same year network television first started to get big.
Among my two oldest memories of my whole life,  one of them is me lying on a couch at about age 3 or 4 watching a low resolution black and white tv image of a stage inside an old looking auditorium.  And the whole show was a line of people walking up to the stage from the left.  And then across the stage until they get to the man sitting in a tall antique wooden chair like you'd see a church pastor sitting in.  And I so vividly remember the next in line would stand in front of him in the chair and kneel down,  and then Oral
Roberts would put the palm of his hand on the person's head and scream "Heal".
I didn't know what it was all about but it was the beginning of my lifelong obsession with the television media. A dude doing faith healing on tv.
And by gosh they're still on there doing it.

My next memory of my life comes later. It was when I was watching Lynn Toney as the announcer on Channel 3 Wrestling and the wrestler strangled him with his own microphone cord.
Still seein that too. lol

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Bob wrote:Markle's not alone in this,  wordslinger.   He's in the same predicament as most of the human population.  
It just seems to be so damn hard for them to say "I don't know".
And for those who are struggling with life,  it seems to REALLY be hard to say "I don't know".  
"There are no atheists in the foxholes" is not just a cliche.  It's likely the most valid cliche they've ever invented.
And it applies just as well in the literal sense as it applies when taken as a metaphor for a hundred different scenarios just as scary as the literal one.  
I've thought about it a lot,  and I now feel pretty confident that if the cancer starts rearing it's ugly head,  I'll be down on my knees praying to God, Jesus,  Allah,  Mohammed,  Buddha,  the Hindu Cow,  the Mojo Man in New Orleans,  Jim Jones and last but definitely not least,  Oral Roberts himself.  Or if he's dead (I can't remember),  it'll be Benny Hinn.





Whatever floats your boat Bob. Have had bladder cancer chemo four times. Don't pray to anything but just get angry and fully determined to win and survive. I also fully trust my urologist. So far it's worked for me.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality, wordslinger.
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave. lol

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality,  wordslinger.  
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave.  lol


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Greatest toy ever made, bar none.

I got mine when I had my tonsils removed.

I understand they're quite collectible as well, Bob.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Snark Spigot wrote:
Bob wrote:I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality,  wordslinger.  
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave.  lol


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Greatest toy ever made, bar none.

I got mine when I had my tonsils removed.

I understand they're quite collectible as well, Bob.

Good thing it didn't get thrown away...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=evel+knievel&_sop=3&LH_Complete=1&_osacat=723&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.Xevel+knievel+stunt+cycle.TRS0.G|2|0&_nkw=evel+knievel+stunt+cycle&_sacat=723

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality,  wordslinger.  
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave.  lol


No bravery with regard to my good friend and Socialist/Communist Wordslinger. If there was, would he be so all consumed and pre-occupied with denigrating others faith?

This does, and always has described Wordslinger's true view on God.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

It's a two-way street on that,  markle,  just like politics.

We have an AM talk radio station here (most powerful AM station on the Gulf Coast between Tampa and New Orleans),  and one of the most prominent on-air personalities is also the pastor of a prominent local Baptist Church.
And not a show goes by when he doesn't "denigrate" non-believers.  And so do his callers.

As I said,  just like with all our political wrastlin,  in this country we have religious wrastlin too.
Real wrastlin (what an ironic description) has taken a back seat to all of it.  lol

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Bob wrote:I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality,  wordslinger.  
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave.  lol


No bravery with regard to my good friend and Socialist/Communist Wordslinger.  If there was, would he be so all consumed and pre-occupied with denigrating others faith?

This does, and always has described Wordslinger's true view on God.

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While I greatly appreciate your interpretation of how I view God, Semi Sane Markle, let me speak for myself: If your God produces self-inflated, arrogant, self-serving, merciless assholes like you, fuck him and the horse he rides.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

There was obviously one primary motivation for the creation of all Abrahamic religion (Judaism, Christianity and Islam), wordslinger.

It provided a coping mechanism for people who were suffering.
Suffering resulting from political repression and persecution, psychological repression, illness, starvation, natural calamity, loneliness, you name it.
AND of course it provided humans a way to cope with their mortality as we already discussed.

Religion will never disappear until we can replace it with something else which provides as effective a coping mechanism (although I cannot imagine what that would be). Or until the suffering has been alleviated and the mortality has been lifted. And I don't see anything like that on our horizon.





Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Bob wrote:There was obviously one primary motivation for the creation of all Abrahamic religion (Judaism,  Christianity and Islam),  wordslinger.

It provided a coping mechanism for people who were suffering.
Suffering resulting from political repression and persecution,  psychological repression,  illness,  starvation,  natural calamity,  loneliness,  you name it.
AND of course it provided humans a way to cope with their mortality as we already discussed.

Religion will never disappear until we can replace it with something else which provides as effective a coping mechanism (although I cannot imagine what that would be).  Or until the suffering has been alleviated and the mortality has been lifted.  And I don't see anything like that on our horizon.  






In general, I think I agree with you. The problem occurs when one coper distrusts and dislikes another because their coping mechanisms are different.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Wordslinger wrote:

The problem occurs when one coper distrusts and dislikes another because their coping mechanisms are different.

That should be in embossed granite letters atop the front entrance to the United Nations Headquarters.

In fact,  I'll bet you money that's the first description of Earthling society, the occupants of the flying saucers sent back to the mother ship.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Wordslinger wrote:
The problem occurs when one coper distrusts and dislikes another because their coping mechanisms are different.

When our European ancestors first came here,  that's why they destroyed the whole North American civilization.  
They just couldn't tolerate that whole civilization's coping mechanisms.  They forced their catholic coping mechanism down the throats of the North Americans at the end of a sword.  Either you accept our coping mechanism or you don't get to live.

And 500 years later,  ISIS is still doing the same thing.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Bob wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
The problem occurs when one coper distrusts and dislikes another because their coping mechanisms are different.

When our European ancestors first came here,  that's why they destroyed the whole North American civilization.  
They just couldn't tolerate that whole civilization's coping mechanisms.  They forced their catholic coping mechanism down the throats of the North Americans at the end of a sword.  Either you accept our coping mechanism or you don't get to live.

And 500 years later,  ISIS is still doing the same thing.

Along with some fundamentalist Jews, Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and Scientologists ....

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality,  wordslinger.  
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave.  lol


The jump over the fountain at Caesar's Palace took far more bravery.

I raced motorcycles for many years. Motocross and Enduro's. The jumps, climbs, speed were all adrenalin rushes. Never thought of bravery, only the thrill and incredible rush and excitement.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Bob wrote:I admire bravery in the face of coming mortality,  wordslinger.  
Same as I admire the bravery of Evil Knievel jumping over the Grand Canyon while attached to a rocket.
But we can't all be that brave.  lol


The jump over the fountain at Caesar's Palace took far more bravery.

I raced motorcycles for many years.  Motocross and Enduro's.  The jumps, climbs, speed were all adrenalin rushes.  Never thought of bravery, only the thrill and incredible rush and excitement.


You're right. We both agree you've never been brave or heroic.

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