Should the 80 year old man be charged in this case?

Joanimaroni wrote:You don't think the felon bears responsibility for her own demise?

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:You don't think the felon bears responsibility for her own demise?

I believe that if a woman is running away from you while pleading for her life, you shouldn't be allowed to shoot her in the back.

Then again.  I'm a well adjusted adult.  Perhaps GOP supporters see it differently.  We will simply have to agree to disagree.

Joanimaroni wrote:She would be alive today if she hadn't put herself in the man's home.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:She would be alive today if she hadn't put herself in the man's home.

Correct, and that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not this man should be charged.  No one here disputes that it is illegal to break into someone else's house or to physically beat someone.  No one here disputes the idea that these crimes deserve a fitting sentence.

Does a woman who is pleading for her life while running away from you present a threat that would require the use of lethal force?  That is the issue.  

You and several others here say "Yes".  I say "No".

Floridatexan wrote:I don't know why this man talked to the media.  He should have kept his mouth shut.  The police and the DA should be able to find out whether there were prior burglaries, if they were reported.  I feel immensely sorry for the victim of the crime; no doubt he was targeted because he was elderly and had significant assets.  That doesn't excuse him shooting another human being in the back.  He will have to be charged...I'm guessing manslaughter.  Again, that's why we have courts.  I don't know whether mandatory minimum sentencing would apply.  But he will have to have his day in court because he killed someone...not that I have much sympathy for either perp...I don't.  But we can't try anyone here; we just simply don't have all the facts.

Joanimaroni wrote:Did they have a vehicle in the alley? Would they return and kill the old man?

Does a woman who is pleading for her life while running away from you present a threat that would require the use of lethal force?

Does a woman who is pleading for her life while running away from you - while a vehicle is present nearby - present a threat that would require the use of lethal force?

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Did they have a vehicle in the alley? Would they return and kill the old man?

Let's see.

Does a woman who is pleading for her life while running away from you present a threat that would require the use of lethal force?

Does a woman who is pleading for her life while running away from you - while a vehicle is present nearby - present a threat that would require the use of lethal force?

Hmm.  The "Do they have a vehicle in the alley?" question appears to be completely irrelevant.


Also, you have to be under an "imminent threat" if you are to use lethal force for self defense.  Fear that someone at some point in the future may come back and kill you does not represent an "imminent threat".

Ready to change your answer yet?

Joanimaroni wrote:Nope. She chose her own fate.  

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Nope. She chose her own fate.  

To run to safety?

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Nope. She chose her own fate.  

To run to safety?

To commit a felony......and to beat an elderly man.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Nope. She chose her own fate.  

To run to safety?

To commit a felony......and to beat an elderly man.

You already stated that these crimes are not punishable by death.  

Did you change your mind?

Joanimaroni wrote:Nope......not a court case that has the death penalty.

But her death came in the commission of a felony. Again, she would be alive if she had not chosen to commit the criminal act.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Nope......not a court case that has the death penalty.

But her death came in the commission of a felony. Again, she would be alive if she had not chosen to commit the criminal act.

Trying to understand your logic here.  So are you saying that it is OK to kill someone so long as they are in the act of committing of a felony?  Is that honestly how you feel the law works?

Joanimaroni wrote:No,  I said, she was killed by a man she beat and robbed during a home invasion........the same thing I said before.

Bob wrote:As I said earlier in the thread,  his only mistake was not lying to the authorities and telling them he thought she was brandishing a gun.  

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Break into my house, beat the crap out of me, then be stupid enough to let me gain access to a firearm while you continue your pursuit of valuables and see if you walk out of it alive.

I don't think so.

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