Should the 80 year old man be charged in this case?

Bob wrote:As I said earlier in the thread,  his only mistake was not lying to the authorities and telling them he thought she was brandishing a gun.  

Joanimaroni wrote:There is nothing to give up, Knot. It is my opinion, nothing more.  

Beaten, broken and robbed......the man shot! Did he know for a fact they would not come back and kill him......No! 

Bob wrote:I'm going to do everything in my power to kill him/her.  And if he/she or them are running away with my belongings,  I frankly don't give a shit what any liberal law made by liberal lawyers says.  Even if the animal has his/her backed turned to me,  he/she is going to get a back full of lead.  
That's my law.

boards of FL wrote:

Bob wrote:I'm going to do everything in my power to kill him/her.  And if he/she or them are running away with my belongings,  I frankly don't give a shit what any liberal law made by liberal lawyers says.  Even if the animal has his/her backed turned to me,  he/she is going to get a back full of lead.  
That's my law.

You make it sound as if the belief that it is wrong to shoot someone who is running away from you in the back is a liberal idea.  In reality, this is simply a concept held by any reasonable person.

Bob, I want to you to print the above post that you just made and then go stand in front of a mirror and watch yourself as you read it aloud.  Be sure to add a "yippee ki-yay" or a "yee-haw" at the end as well.

Damaged Eagle wrote:You make it sound as if the belief that it is wrong to beat the hell out of a old person and/or protecting your property is a conservative idea. In reality, this is simply a concept held by any reasonable person.

boards of FL wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:You make it sound as if the belief that it is wrong to beat the hell out of a old person and/or protecting your property is a conservative idea. In reality, this is simply a concept held by any reasonable person.

Do I?  Well let me clear that up for you since you obviously can't read.  For Damaged and anyone else who struggles with reading:  It is wrong to break into someone's home.  It is wrong to commit battery on the elderly.  And this is not a conservative belief but, rather, a belief held by any reasonable person with an IQ north of 60.

And I can't believe that I even have to state this to an adult.

Damaged Eagle wrote:And yet it offends your liberal sensibilities that an old beaten man who was let down by the society that was supposed to be there to protect him took the law into his own hands.

boards of FL wrote:


He shot a fleeing woman in the back.  Let's be clear on what it is that we are disagreeing about here.  I don't believe it is OK for someone to shoot a fleeing person in the back.  When someone is fleeing and pleading for their life, they clearly do not represent an imminent threat to you.  

Bob wrote:

boards of FL wrote:


He shot a fleeing woman in the back.  Let's be clear on what it is that we are disagreeing about here.  I don't believe it is OK for someone to shoot a fleeing person in the back.  When someone is fleeing and pleading for their life, they clearly do not represent an imminent threat to you.  

Yes,  let's do be clear.  And my clear belief is once they invaded my home and assaulted me,  they became a permanent threat to me until they're dead.  Period.

Joanimaroni wrote:The gun was in his pocket.

SheWrites wrote:

Bob wrote:

boards of FL wrote:


He shot a fleeing woman in the back.  Let's be clear on what it is that we are disagreeing about here.  I don't believe it is OK for someone to shoot a fleeing person in the back.  When someone is fleeing and pleading for their life, they clearly do not represent an imminent threat to you.  

Yes,  let's do be clear.  And my clear belief is once they invaded my home and assaulted me,  they became a permanent threat to me until they're dead.  Period.

Seems back in the day in FL I can remember my uncles saying that you can shoot someone on your property but it better not be in the back.  Think about it...they are leaving...why shoot to kill.

Secondly, I don't think the death penalty fits the crime by the judge and jury being said homeowner.

Thirdly, where does it say we have to become a gun wielding hero on our own property?  We pay taxes for law enforcement.  CALL 911 and get yourself as far away from the problem as possible.

Yes, I know they had already beat him up but he obviously had time to get a gun and shoot so time to call 911?  And yes, he had been a victim before.  

None of those add up to murder of an intruder.  The crime was robbery and assault.  I don't think those add up to a death sentence.

QueenOfHearts wrote:The woman's death was a consequence of her own action.  However, shooting a fleeing felon in the back is not OK.  If you are afraid they're going to turn around and come back, then shoot them when they come back.  Shooting someone in the back as they are running away is not in self-defense; it is cowardly.  The scenario started off with two criminals and ended with three.

If someone breaks into my house, I am going to shoot them.  I don't care why they're breaking into my house, they're going to get shot.  I practice a lot to make sure I'll be able to hit them.  But I'm not going to shoot them when they're running away.

Floridatexan wrote:
I'm reminded of RetiredLeo and the story he told about some would-be robbers.  Does anyone else remember?

SheWrites wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:The gun was in his pocket.

Still could have called 911.  I tell my elderly to keep their cell phone in their pockets.

Markle wrote:

We have virtually children here saying what an 80 year old man should have done after several previous break ins and getting the crap kicked out of him.  Others here who have never had the crap kicked out of them much less what they would do in the same circumstances.

Bob wrote:

Markle wrote:

We have virtually children here saying what an 80 year old man should have done after several previous break ins and getting the crap kicked out of him.  Others here who have never had the crap kicked out of them much less what they would do in the same circumstances.

nicely put.  

Floridatexan wrote:

Bob wrote:

Markle wrote:

We have virtually children here saying what an 80 year old man should have done after several previous break ins and getting the crap kicked out of him.  Others here who have never had the crap kicked out of them much less what they would do in the same circumstances.

nicely put.  

BS.  The DA will struggle with it, but he will have to charge the 80-year-old, who will then have to go before a judge, if not a jury.  I hope he's hired a lawyer.  

boards of FL wrote:  Breaking and entering is wrong.  Battery on the elderly is wrong.