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Finally the people are speaking......people need help....not judgment

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Joanimaroni

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cool1 wrote:wow im sorry but I cant come up with any excuse that's worth putting your child in danger -job interview or not -turn to family or something , I just don't see it as a reason to leave a baby in the car .  black white blue rich or poor you just don't do it period .  

I was in sort of that situation my dad was dying in the hospital and I knew it and I had no one to watch my baby she was 6 months old --I called every day care in the phone book asking them I only want to see my dad half hour a day that's all please I told them , and 1 place did and they took money for an hour each day for three days ---my dad died on the third day -- I did see him at nights but when you know someone is going to pass you want to be by them every minute ,   I just see no reason to leave a child alone in a car period for no reason at all job or not its a stupid thing to do , That's how I feel about it , leaving my child in a hot car for a job -sorry but no friggin way id do that .  My childs life is more important .  


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cool1 wrote:wow im sorry but I cant come up with any excuse that's worth putting your child in danger -job interview or not -turn to family or something , I just don't see it as a reason to leave a baby in the car .  black white blue rich or poor you just don't do it period .  

I was in sort of that situation my dad was dying in the hospital and I knew it and I had no one to watch my baby she was 6 months old --I called every day care in the phone book asking them I only want to see my dad half hour a day that's all please I told them , and 1 place did and they took money for an hour each day for three days ---my dad died on the third day -- I did see him at nights but when you know someone is going to pass you want to be by them every minute ,   I just see no reason to leave a child alone in a car period for no reason at all job or not its a stupid thing to do , That's how I feel about it , leaving my child in a hot car for a job -sorry but no friggin way id do that .  My childs life is more important .  

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I don't think anyone's agreeing w/ what the woman did. It was stupid and dangerous. The point is it's forgivable and doesn't mean she's a terrible mother. If she had gone to a bar or to sleep w/ her boyfriend ,I would be less forgiving. The issue is the plight of some of these poor people. People rush to judgement and put out all of this "safety net" bullshit when in reality there is very limited help out there. Not everybody has family who will help and most employers will not reschedule an interview. She could have been 20 ft. away and only been in there 10 minutes. You just don't know what the circumstances were.

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cool1 wrote:wow im sorry but I cant come up with any excuse that's worth putting your child in danger -job interview or not -turn to family or something , I just don't see it as a reason to leave a baby in the car .  black white blue rich or poor you just don't do it period .  

I was in sort of that situation my dad was dying in the hospital and I knew it and I had no one to watch my baby she was 6 months old --I called every day care in the phone book asking them I only want to see my dad half hour a day that's all please I told them , and 1 place did and they took money for an hour each day for three days ---my dad died on the third day -- I did see him at nights but when you know someone is going to pass you want to be by them every minute ,   I just see no reason to leave a child alone in a car period for no reason at all job or not its a stupid thing to do , That's how I feel about it , leaving my child in a hot car for a job -sorry but no friggin way id do that .  My childs life is more important .  
That's how you do it Seaoat !!! You do what it takes and you don't blame society nor make potroast out of your kid! Good job Cool! You could teach this poor downtrodden "mother" a thing or two about making an effort to ensure your childs safety.  cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers 

QueenOfHearts

QueenOfHearts

Dreamsglore wrote:Are you for real? Do you have any idea what TANF pays? Do you really think a mother who gets welfare can pay for a babysitter? That block grant is for working mothers and the waiting list is miles long. They can't even pay rent and utilities w/ TANF let alone babysitters. You have no clue of what you're talking about. And she lives in Az for crying out loud not New Mexico. How do you even know she gets CS,SS or any of those. Early Childhood services don't babysit! Jeez!

The town in which this occurred has two daycare centers that will babysit children for free while their parent attends job interviews. This woman tested positive for drugs while she was pregnant with one of these children.

She has not made wise choices in the past in regards to the well-being of her children.

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Dreamsglore wrote:I don't think anyone's agreeing w/ what the woman did. It was stupid and dangerous. The point is it's forgivable and doesn't mean she's a terrible mother. If she had gone to a bar or to sleep w/ her boyfriend ,I would be less forgiving. The issue is the plight of some of these poor people. People rush to judgement and put out all of this "safety net" bullshit when in reality there is very limited help out there. Not everybody has family who will help and most employers will not reschedule an interview. She could have been 20 ft. away and only been in there 10 minutes. You just don't know what the circumstances were.
Ten minutes is enough to kill a child in the heat. Please educate yourself too on this subject. Your statements are only enabling other dumbasses that might think that its OK to leave a child in a hot car for that amount of time.

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QueenOfHearts wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:Are you for real? Do you have any idea what TANF pays? Do you really think a mother who gets welfare can pay for a babysitter? That block grant is for working mothers and the waiting list is miles long. They can't even pay rent and utilities w/ TANF let alone babysitters. You have no clue of what you're talking about. And she lives in Az for crying out loud not New Mexico. How do you even know she gets CS,SS or any of those. Early Childhood services don't babysit! Jeez!

The town in which this occurred has two daycare centers that will babysit children for free while their parent attends job interviews.  This woman tested positive for drugs while she was pregnant with one of these children.

She has not made wise choices in the past in regards to the well-being of her children.  
Now we start getting to the meat of the problem....drugs huh? Shoulda known

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Did she know that? And how does anyone know she tested positive for drugs?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

QueenOfHearts wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:Are you for real? Do you have any idea what TANF pays? Do you really think a mother who gets welfare can pay for a babysitter? That block grant is for working mothers and the waiting list is miles long. They can't even pay rent and utilities w/ TANF let alone babysitters. You have no clue of what you're talking about. And she lives in Az for crying out loud not New Mexico. How do you even know she gets CS,SS or any of those. Early Childhood services don't babysit! Jeez!

The town in which this occurred has two daycare centers that will babysit children for free while their parent attends job interviews.  This woman tested positive for drugs while she was pregnant with one of these children.

She has not made wise choices in the past in regards to the well-being of her children.  

Thank you.....if she didn't have a sitter take the kids in with you. I don't care how poor she is, what color,  or how hard it is to get goverment help.......you don't leave your little ones in a car alone. This is not rocket science and there is not one bit of justification for her actions. Not one!

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Dreamsglore wrote:Did she know that? And how does anyone know she tested positive for drugs?
Probably didn't give a shit enough about those kids to check and see if free daycare was available, just took her methhead ass to the place and fried her kids while she job searched. Mother of the year award for this one. And Seaoat thinks shes a saint!! LMFAO!!!!

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No one's trying to justify it. I think we have established it was dumb and irresponsible.

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no stress

Dreamsglore wrote:No one's trying to justify it. I think we have established it was dumb and irresponsible.
"We"? Have you got a mouse in your pocket?

cool1

cool1

My employer was pretty cool when my baby was little she let me put her in an extra bin---we use to put bins on wheels in front of our sewing machine to catch material --so funny I was sitting at the sewing machine while working and my baby in a bin beside me , I had to do that one day , But everyone loved her , They just walked by and poked at her  Razz 

If I had to go to an interview I would just tell the lady im so sorry --give them an excuse like my baby sitter backed out at the last minute , this usually doesn't happen but it did and she had to go to the hospital ,, Im very sorry but I really need this job and so I had to bring her with me I really hope you don't mind , and if you think my baby will be a problem then may I please have another time to interview because I really need this job  Suspect -- Laughing 

QueenOfHearts

QueenOfHearts

Dreamsglore wrote:Did she know that? And how does anyone know she tested positive for drugs?


The information about her testing positive was in an article from the local news station. The baby did not test for drugs when it was born though, so she must have stopped.

If she did not know about the free babysitting service, it may be that she never asked. Why didn't she care enough to ask?

I don't think she should go to prison. But I'm not so sure she should have those children either, at least not right away. You have one women who did drugs while pregnant and left kids in a car for over an hour in Arizona. Three strikes and she's out, but by then the kids may be dead. Would you take that chance?

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QueenOfHearts wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:Did she know that? And how does anyone know she tested positive for drugs?


The information about her testing positive was in an article from the local news station.  The baby did not test for drugs when it was born though, so she must have stopped.

If she did not know about the free babysitting service, it may be that she never asked.  Why didn't she care enough to ask?

I don't think she should go to prison.  But I'm not so sure she should have those children either, at least not right away.  You have one women who did drugs while pregnant and left kids in a car for over an hour in Arizona.  Three strikes and she's out, but by then the kids may be dead.  Would you take that chance?

Better yet, I wonder if dreams and oats would mind if this lady left their kids, one being a 6 month old in the car while she went in anywhere. I'm sure they would be as forgiving.  Wink 

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Gunz wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:I don't think anyone's agreeing w/ what the woman did. It was stupid and dangerous. The point is it's forgivable and doesn't mean she's a terrible mother. If she had gone to a bar or to sleep w/ her boyfriend ,I would be less forgiving. The issue is the plight of some of these poor people. People rush to judgement and put out all of this "safety net" bullshit when in reality there is very limited help out there. Not everybody has family who will help and most employers will not reschedule an interview. She could have been 20 ft. away and only been in there 10 minutes. You just don't know what the circumstances were.
 Ten minutes is enough to kill a child in the heat.  Please educate yourself too on this subject.  Your statements are only enabling other dumbasses that might think that its OK to leave a child in a hot car for that amount of time.

Listen asswipe, I never said it was ok and it would have to be very hot outside to kill a child in 10 minutes. The facts are it was in the 70's that day so let's not exaggerate the heat.It was wrong and dangerous. We got that,however ,we don't need to elevate the circumstances.

Sal

Sal

Desperation leads to poor choices. 


This woman was not just poor, she was homeless. 


It's not like she was buying drugs, or fucking her boyfriend, or playing the slots. 


She was trying to get a fucking job to provide for her children. 


You people are sick. 

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QueenOfHearts wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:Did she know that? And how does anyone know she tested positive for drugs?


The information about her testing positive was in an article from the local news station.  The baby did not test for drugs when it was born though, so she must have stopped.

If she did not know about the free babysitting service, it may be that she never asked.  Why didn't she care enough to ask?

I don't think she should go to prison.  But I'm not so sure she should have those children either, at least not right away.  You have one women who did drugs while pregnant and left kids in a car for over an hour in Arizona.  Three strikes and she's out, but by then the kids may be dead.  Would you take that chance?

How do you know she didn't ask? You can't believe everything you read in a newspaper. I've never heard of a daycare either offering free babysitting for job interviews. This woman served in the Air Force so I doubt she was a druggie. She lived w/ her parents who both worked so she couldn't ask them.

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cool1 wrote:My employer was pretty cool when my baby was little she let me put her in an extra bin---we use to put bins on wheels in front of our sewing machine to catch material --so funny I was sitting at the sewing machine while working and my baby in a bin beside me , I had to do that one day , But everyone loved her , They just walked by and poked at her  Razz 

If I had to go to an interview I would just tell the lady im so sorry --give them an excuse like my baby sitter backed out at the last minute , this usually doesn't happen but it did and she had to go to the hospital ,, Im very sorry but I really need this job and so I had to bring her with me I really hope you don't mind , and if you think my baby will be a problem then may I please have another time to interview because I really need this job  Suspect -- Laughing 

It doesn't work that way,Cool. The employer sets the time and you should never say I really need this job. It assumes you are going to get it.

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cool1

cool1

I just put in children and hot cars  Very Happy--all that popped up.

Sal

Sal

You really should think about some of the stuff you've put on this forum, Cool. 


I'm trying to be nice, but you're on thin ice here. 

cool1

cool1

Dreamsglore wrote:
cool1 wrote:My employer was pretty cool when my baby was little she let me put her in an extra bin---we use to put bins on wheels in front of our sewing machine to catch material --so funny I was sitting at the sewing machine while working and my baby in a bin beside me , I had to do that one day , But everyone loved her , They just walked by and poked at her  Razz 

If I had to go to an interview I would just tell the lady im so sorry --give them an excuse like my baby sitter backed out at the last minute , this usually doesn't happen but it did and she had to go to the hospital ,, Im very sorry but I really need this job and so I had to bring her with me I really hope you don't mind , and if you think my baby will be a problem then may I please have another time to interview because I really need this job  Suspect -- Laughing 

It doesn't work that way,Cool. The employer sets the time and you should never say I really need this job. It assumes you are going to get it.


I would say anything --lol but I wouldn't leave my kid in a hot car period . I would beg if that's what it took lol

Sal

Sal

cool1 wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
cool1 wrote:My employer was pretty cool when my baby was little she let me put her in an extra bin---we use to put bins on wheels in front of our sewing machine to catch material --so funny I was sitting at the sewing machine while working and my baby in a bin beside me , I had to do that one day , But everyone loved her , They just walked by and poked at her  Razz 

If I had to go to an interview I would just tell the lady im so sorry --give them an excuse like my baby sitter backed out at the last minute , this usually doesn't happen but it did and she had to go to the hospital ,, Im very sorry but I really need this job and so I had to bring her with me I really hope you don't mind , and if you think my baby will be a problem then may I please have another time to interview because I really need this job  Suspect -- Laughing 

It doesn't work that way,Cool. The employer sets the time and you should never say I really need this job. It assumes you are going to get it.


I would say anything --lol but I wouldn't leave my kid in a hot car period .  I would beg if that's what it took lol

When you are begging on a public forum and accepting canned goods from high schoolers, you are inches away from this woman's dilemma. 


You should shut up now. 

cool1

cool1

Sal wrote:You really should think about some of the stuff you've put on this forum, Cool. 


I'm trying to be nice, but you're on thin ice here. 


I love ice  Very Happy ----by all means be nice . I didn't see anyone here not being nice.

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