True testimonials on sting operations that law enforcement doesnt want you to hear.

a lil more about me......after i got out of jail, i wasnt just going to let this happen and i was not aware of these stings beforehand. The first thing i did was secure my chat log, because i trusted nobody. So as i started doing research, i was appalled with the information i was finding. Soon i met someone else who had been wronged a few years before. Well we teamed up to try to get the message out, thus the blog. Now there are many of us who have formed together to try to let the truth beknown. It is so difficult because of the nature of the charges and public perception. Media is Pro-police for the most part. You wont believe at what lengths and the time i have put into this to get the word out. But mark my word, it wont be much longer and it will be headlines throughout the country and probably the world. Somebody is going to expose these stings and now with word of high level ICAC trainers saying they are doing them wrong...well it just might be sooner or later when that information makes it mainstream

Bill wrote:

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Wait a minute, if you don't know the particulars, how do you know it wasnt (sic) from one of those stings..?

Ronald Brown's arrest was the result of an international child porn ring investigation out of Massachusetts. Police were frequenting a forum known to cater to child porn traders where they encountered some of his insane comments. That made him an investigative target worthy of closer inspection. All in all quite a bit different than your average Florida sex sting.

2seaoat wrote:You ain't posting facts if it comes from a blog by someone that will not tell anyone about himself.


Tell me how you would feel as a 20 year old kid who was just looking to get laid by an adult when they went to craigslist, and next thing you know you have been branded a ped.........do you think you would come on a forum with your real name and discuss what a dumb assz you had been going to craigslist in the first place.......these folks.....especially the innocent folks are consumed with shame.......and usually just give up the fight. It is horrible exploitation and entrapment......not in every case........not even in the original intent.....but the results and methodologies speak for themselves.....and folks blogging about the same are the only window for most people to look into this perverse and wrong method of getting the dangerous folks off the streets.

that is a good point to make as well, but as i stated, i have nothing to be ashamed about. I know what they did was wrong....my PD told me after the fact that he ran into one of the detectives who told him that he believed that they shouldnt place such an ad, yet they did it anyway. Thanks for the back-up!

aladdin4d wrote:

Bill wrote:

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Wait a minute, if you don't know the particulars, how do you know it wasnt (sic) from one of those stings..?

Ronald Brown's arrest was the result of an international child porn ring investigation out of Massachusetts. Police were frequenting a forum known to cater to child porn traders where they encountered some of his insane comments. That made him an investigative target worthy of closer inspection. All in all quite a bit different than your average Florida sex sting.

and thats how you catch the true sicko, there you have it. Thank you

how do you gain "reputation"?, lmao

talknstang wrote:how do you gain "reputation"?, lmao

I have no idea. They must be able to sense my startling good looks.

well then what the hell am i, chopped liver? lol its funny how things got quiet once i exposed the truth. Its funny how you can serve your country proud as an officer in the military and during wartime, yet the country doesnt seem to return the favor, lol. Well i guess the country doesnt exactly know so i will cut em some slack for now....they will know soon enough. Now thats some funny shit right there

talknstang wrote:well then what the hell am i, chopped liver? lol its funny how things got quiet once i exposed the truth. Its funny how you can serve your country proud as an officer in the military and during wartime, yet the country doesnt seem to return the favor, lol. Well i guess the country doesnt exactly know so i will cut em some slack for now....they will know soon enough. Now thats some funny shit right there

You have exposed the truth only according to talknstang, no one else.

talknstang wrote:well then what the hell am i, chopped liver? lol its funny how things got quiet once i exposed the truth. Its funny how you can serve your country proud as an officer in the military and during wartime, yet the country doesnt seem to return the favor, lol. Well i guess the country doesnt exactly know so i will cut em some slack for now....they will know soon enough. Now thats some funny shit right there

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Look Spartacus, there's not one fucking thing about this story that I find remotely funny.

Shit like that the above remark will not help your cause.

You're here asking us to cut you some slack; to overlook your arrest and accept your version of the alleged events, and you post that attack on your faithful readers...?

BTW....your apparent disdain for apostrophes is a tell.

oh you dont have to tell me about it. its not funny what happened to myself, but its downright disgusting what is happening to others that are sitting in jail for no reason. So if you didnt believe me, i guess you dont believe what the asst. US attorney said about them performing these stings for no reason? The truth is all over the place, just people find it hard to imagine..... and about the apostrophes, a minor technicality, now thats funny

oh yea, i wasnt attacking you, in fact if you read my priors, i was glad.....i was just saying it got quiet and the "chopped liver" reference was in regards to REPUTATION. How does that number change? you know the Reputation that is under the number of posts you make

Thanks TalknStang! Were you so jealous you had to go and ruin my hard earned reputation too?

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talknstang wrote:oh yea, i wasnt attacking you, in fact if you read my priors, i was glad.....i was just saying it got quiet and the "chopped liver" reference was in regards to REPUTATION. How does that number change? you know the Reputation that is under the number of posts you make

Notice you have 1 now. If you look to the right of each post you will see a vertical line with a + at the top and a - at the bottom. Clicking on the + will give you a + reputation and a - will take one away or put you in the negative if you have not accumulated any positives.

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

As I said there are no innocents in prison.

Since this guy will not tell anything about himself, how the hell do you know that he has be branded a pedophile or not. How do you know that he is not just a great story teller just to further his agenda.

If I read this from a reliable and reputable source then I may place some validity on it, but from a blog, then no thanks.

If this were true then organizations like:

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/cwc/

and:

http://www.innocenceproject.org/understand/

would not have any reason to exist and there would never be any news stories like these:

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/false_arrests_convictions_and_imprisonments/index.html

talknstang wrote:oh yea, i wasnt attacking you, in fact if you read my priors, i was glad.....i was just saying it got quiet and the "chopped liver" reference was in regards to REPUTATION. How does that number change? you know the Reputation that is under the number of posts you make

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Like I said, good luck on your trek for truthiness. I salute you, and if you post your name and email, we can move this phishing expedition along to it's logical conclusion.

Is your wheelman also an ex-con who did time for a sex-related conviction...?

Folk who post in pairs make me noievus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkcGuZHPbKk

aladdin4d wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

[b]As I said there are no innocents in prison.[\b]

Since this guy will not tell anything about himself, how the hell do you know that he has be branded a pedophile or not. How do you know that he is not just a great story teller just to further his agenda.

If I read this from a reliable and reputable source then I may place some validity on it, but from a blog, then no thanks.

If this were true then organizations like:

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/cwc/

and:

http://www.innocenceproject.org/understand/

would not have any reason to exist and there would never be any news stories like these:

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/false_arrests_convictions_and_imprisonments/index.html

That was metaphorically speaking. It would be very presumptuous of me to assume that some folks that are truly innocent do not convicted and sentenced yo time. Hell I am sure that even some innocents have been executed.

Aladdin & TalknStang,


Are you both involved with the RSOL?

Mr X wrote:Aladdin & TalknStang,


Are you both involved with the RSOL?

Since I don't know what the RSOL is, I'm going to have to say no.

Mr X wrote:Aladdin & TalknStang,


Are you both involved with the RSOL?

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Figure drawings and a feral beast...? How dramatic.



From their handbook....

http://reformsexoffenderlaws.org/lobby_handbook


RSOL is not just a lobby group. The primary purpose of RSOL is to influence public opinion about the growing national hysteria concerning sex offenders and deviant sexual behavior. Specific strategies include promoting research, publishing articles, and writing letters to the editor to demand that real protection of children from sexual harm be coupled with civil liberties for all people concerned, including alleged sex offenders. We also support changing or amending existing laws that violate the rights of offenders and do nothing to protect children, especially those that humiliate and shame offenders, those that criminalize consensual sex among adolescents and young adults, those that restrict the residences and employment of offenders, and those that continue to incarcerate offenders who have completed their sentences under so-called civil commitment. We urge our state groups to propose such amendments and also to oppose new, Draconian legislation.

Hey Mr. X..did you not read this post? you must be an LEO, not that that matters. The answer is NO. You should be more careful with your assumptions

Bill wrote:

talknstang wrote:oh yea, i wasnt attacking you, in fact if you read my priors, i was glad.....i was just saying it got quiet and the "chopped liver" reference was in regards to REPUTATION. How does that number change? you know the Reputation that is under the number of posts you make

........................................

Like I said, good luck on your trek for truthiness. I salute you, and if you post your name and email, we can move this phishing expedition along to it's logical conclusion.

Is your wheelman also an ex-con who did time for a sex-related conviction...?

Folk who post in pairs make me noievus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkcGuZHPbKk

nah, just someone who wants to make a difference as well im sure. I appreciate the support. Perhaps this is my calling, especially since i have invested alot of time and research on this. I will get my presentation out soon to the public

I guess that makes a little more sense than asking about Real Goods Solar, Inc.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:RSOL

or the Richmond Symphony Orchestra League:

http://www.rsol.org/RSOL/Welcome.html

I'm not out to reform any laws. I'm out to reform law enforcement so that when a sting is done, it's done legally instead of illegally.

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

talknstang wrote:oh yea, i wasnt attacking you, in fact if you read my priors, i was glad.....i was just saying it got quiet and the "chopped liver" reference was in regards to REPUTATION. How does that number change? you know the Reputation that is under the number of posts you make

Notice you have 1 now. If you look to the right of each post you will see a vertical line with a + at the top and a - at the bottom. Clicking on the + will give you a + reputation and a - will take one away or put you in the negative if you have not accumulated any positives.

i had one, but somebody stole it, lol hmm....Mr X did it i bet.....but i appreciate it, thank you

Bill wrote:

Mr X wrote:Aladdin & TalknStang,


Are you both involved with the RSOL?

................................

Figure drawings and a feral beast...? How dramatic.



From their handbook....

http://reformsexoffenderlaws.org/lobby_handbook


RSOL is not just a lobby group. The primary purpose of RSOL is to influence public opinion about the growing national hysteria concerning sex offenders and deviant sexual behavior. Specific strategies include promoting research, publishing articles, and writing letters to the editor to demand that real protection of children from sexual harm be coupled with civil liberties for all people concerned, including alleged sex offenders. We also support changing or amending existing laws that violate the rights of offenders and do nothing to protect children, especially those that humiliate and shame offenders, those that criminalize consensual sex among adolescents and young adults, those that restrict the residences and employment of offenders, and those that continue to incarcerate offenders who have completed their sentences under so-called civil commitment. We urge our state groups to propose such amendments and also to oppose new, Draconian legislation.

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Nobody knows more about the RSOL than these folk:

http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/search/label/Reform%20Sex%20Offender%20Laws%20Campaign


A Concise History of the RSOL
Thursday, July 26, 2012

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Recently high-level members of ReformSexOffenderLaws.Org (RSOL) refused to believe that their organization had any ties or associations with the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). To us here at Absolute Zero (where we have written extensively on this topic), this is simply unacceptable; So once again we will take it upon ourselves to 'educate their ignorance' (as they say) by providing them with a history lesson on the organization that they have elected to be part of (how nice are we?!?):

June 7, 1998 - The first version of the Reform Sex Offender Laws petition is posted on BoyChat under the title "A Call to Safeguard Our Children and Our Liberties." The petition was formed in response to the public backlash NAMBLA experienced over the murder of Jeffrey Curley. This first version of the petition states that among those involved in drafting it were NAMBLA members:

A discussion group of about twenty people formed, hosted unofficially by a non-governmental organization. Participants included women who are incest and sex abuse survivors, NAMBLA members, anti-censorship and civil liberties activists, feminists, gay and lesbian people, health-care workers, church activists, peace and social justice activists, academics, and those who work with prisoners.