Blues Cancelling Many Shows Due to Crash

Stopping wasteful and unnecessary military airshows, cutting the defense budget so we defend America, but do not export war is not foolish, but the right thing to do. However, like I said enjoy the bread and circus, and pretend we need the same for our defense.....we do not. How about a novel idea. If a community wants bread and circus......let them pay for it......figure 50 shows a year, or two million a show. Just sell 50k tickets at forty bucks and let the money saved actually be used to defend America.......but then again there is a tradition on the beach of not paying for services received with tax dollars, so lets just have America foot the bill for bread and circus.

2seaoat wrote:but then again there is a tradition on the beach of not paying for services received with tax dollars.

Total and completely typical beach-people-hater B.S., from a "reformed smoker" (former beach leaseholder who's now better than the rest of us).

Newsflash: If it weren't for Pensacola Beach leaseholders' annual lease fees, there wouldn't be any Blue Angels show (or any other event, for that matter) on this beach.

So to be against war and sending more kids into harms way, it logically follows that those who were the raw meat of the MIC should be punished by the country.......splendid logic Hallmark.....try as you may to make anti war now anti victim, your rationalizations are illogical. 110 million dollars spent appropriately for America could save lives and build our GDP......it is criminal in 2016 after killing innocents from the sky while invading a country which did NOTHING to America, and setting ablaze the middle east where hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children died because of MIC, and propping up the Saudis as if our kids were foreign servants in their home......yea....wanting to stop war is analogous to closing graveyards....splendid hyperbole.

Linda, expecting folks to pay for things with tax dollars was a controversial idea on the beach, and it still is, so pleassssssseeeee do not try to make people haters when they suggest folks should pay property taxes and military air shows should be funded privately by those who want to view the same, rather than once again the taxpayers paying for the bread and circus.

Newsflash.....do not be surprised when we enter a new war in the next few years which kills thousands of American kids and makes wonderful profits for MIC.........and our national graveyards can have a steady supply of raw meat where children are brainwashed that war is acceptable and the tools of war are cool......especially when they are blowing smoke out their rear......kind of like defending military air shows.....lots of smoke.......but enjoy the bread and circus.

War is not acceptable? No defence is the best defence? If you really want to make a difference have a fit about the millions that play first person War games like Black ops, etc

https://www.vg247.com/2014/08/06/best-fps-ever/

https://www.vg247.com/2014/08/06/best-fps-ever/

Here is your problem!!!  And it aint the Military.. ...for a woman with a handgun..Gee-zus  

http://www.pnj.com/story/news/2016/06/10/swat-standoff-midway/85696776/

In a militarized society it is both which are the problem. The young kids flocking to Bernie get it......so it may be twenty years before those brainwashed that we can only survive by feeding MIC pass on, but in the meanwhile every citizen has to question and not accept authoritarian tyranny, and budgets which are controlled by MIC to enrich a few and scare Americans into frightened children.

Z.....I hate Beavers. The old saying of eager beaver is an understatement. They are hard working destructive animals who have taken down some beautiful trees, built their dams and blocked our flows, but the worst part.....they slap their tails at me when I drive by.....I want beaver hats to become popular again.

2seaoat wrote:Linda, expecting folks to pay for things with tax dollars was a controversial idea on the beach, and it still is, so pleassssssseeeee do not try to make people haters when they suggest folks should pay property taxes and military air shows should be funded privately by those who want to view the same, rather than once again the taxpayers paying for the bread and circus.

You know perfectly well why paying property taxes was "a controversial idea," to put it mildly, when people were already paying lease fees and did not own diddly squat out here - neither land nor buildings.  Do we really want to rehash that old battle?  GAWD I hope not.   It would take about three more threads and I'm sick of it.   You know my position was always "tax me, title me."  Nevertheless at present I'm paying property taxes on both land and house I do not own, plus now 50% of my annual lease fee, which is a long sight more than Navarre Beach people are paying with their token $250 a year leases.   We shall see what the future holds.

As for taxpayers underwriting the Blue Angels, how's about we put it on the ballot in November, see how many Americans want to quit paying for the shows?  Hallmark will vote no.  I will vote no.   Joani too, I'm betting.

And Hallmark, just so you know, I do realize the taxpayers nationally fund the cost of maintaining the Blue Angels team; what many people in this area [and in Illinois] don't realize is that Pensacola Beach lease fees pay 100% of the entire local cost of putting on the event -- set-up, security & safety, clean-up, and who knows what-all else -- which cost, my failing memory tells me, is something in the neighborhood of $150,000 per year.  So much for our not wanting to pay for services rendered. And that's just one example.  The entire SRIA operations not yet taken over by the county are funded by PBeach lease fees, and those the county has assumed (Public Safety & Public Works on PBeach) are paid by our property taxes.

Z could you show where these buildings were that you are talking about using google maps?

648 was where we called "on the hill". It was at the end of the golf driving range.

I cant do a screen shot but if you look close you can see a Blue Angel Plane in between the buildings he has marked...... If you could drive a golf ball about 450 yards you could hit the building  from the driving range....Maybe this will work if you click it
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3596779,-87.2767893,87m/data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3596513,-87.2767149,37m/data=!3m1!1e3

Hallmarkgard wrote:I cant do a screen shot but if you look close you can see a Blue Angel Plane in between the buildings he has marked...... If you could drive a golf ball about 450 yards you could hit the building  from the driving range....Maybe this will work if you click it
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3596779,-87.2767893,87m/data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3596513,-87.2767149,37m/data=!3m1!1e3

Hallmark, is that a FA-18 Hornet? Hard to tell, I see the twin engines which almost assures it being a Hornet but the front is so damaged it is difficult.

OH, man, Hallmark, that was a real tear jerker. So very sad, but beautiful, too. Thank you so much for sharing

I guess there are plenty of tears to go around.....