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For raising the minimum wage? Let'm know!

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:Ever wonder what the system was before capitalism or free market?

There are no "free markets". Unregulated capitalism, or laissez-faire, is chaos.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:Ever wonder what the system was before capitalism or free market?

There are no "free markets".  Unregulated capitalism, or laissez-faire, is chaos.

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Guest

You aren't really thinking very deeply if your knowledge of history is only a leftist talkingpoint.

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Guest

Chrissy wrote:so let me get this straight.

The left wants fast food workers to make $15. an hour. While trained people like phlebotomist, PSR, medical assistants , the list goes on of people who have a small amount of trained education/certification who do not make $15 an hour.

An what about those people who make $20 who have AS degree's and sometimes BS degrees. Will they get raises? Or is the intentions to say everyone should make the same no matter their education? You know much like a communist would want it.

You people really ARE that stupid.

2seaoat



You people really ARE that stupid.

No, but your assumptions are.  A slow annual stepped minimum wage adjustment over twenty years will cause wage inflation.   Across the board wages will go up.  Sadly the last thirty years of trickle down economic vodoo, wage deflation has been the rule and the median income has crashed in direct proportion to the wealth distribution which has crippled demand and our GDP.  During this period the value of capital was artificially enhanced by lower tax rates and crushing reductions in the median income as multi national corporations and individuals came to the trough of subsidy and tax elimination and pigged out taking valuable capital assets in the form of factories where they could continue the downward wage pressure.

Germany took a different approaches with wages and capital......and their economy has grown at a far greater rate than the American economy and the median income in that country crushed our numbers during the last thirty years.   So to somebody with no training or education in economics, your simplistic paradigm of trickle down always made sense, and your prejudices reinforce that some labor has no value.....sadly you cannot even fathom how stupid your posts are when discussing economics.

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2seaoat wrote:You people really ARE that stupid.

sadly you cannot even fathom how stupid your posts are when discussing economics.

not nearly as stupid as yours comrade.


I realize you have lived everywhere, done everything and know everything IN YOUR OWN HEAD LOL

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Seaoat said-

"own questions, because I worked my way through college on mostly minimum wage jobs....and I did that easily beginning my work in 1966 at 15. When a young American kid can do the same, we will restore our middle class"

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Kids can't get jobs right now period and hell no you didn't pay all of your bills as a 15 year old

2seaoat



Kids can't get jobs right now period and hell no you didn't pay all of your bills as a 15 year old


Actually, I paid for most of them......My mother got my ss check for survivor benefits after my father died and I worked sixty hours a week and after school......I was a hard worker and paid for my clothes, food, and by the time I was 16 and could drive, I had bought a 1961 ford falcon which had been in a front end accident for fifty bucks.....I fixed the fenders pulling old ones off junk yards, another bumper, new radiator, new water pump, and I painted the car......paid my insurance and drove to work and school until I graduated......I could work you under the rug at 16 and pushing cars around a car lot made my body strong, and the sacrifices allowed college which made my mind strong. You went fishing and had mommy and daddy wiping your butt.....I got strong.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:You people really ARE that stupid.

No, but your assumptions are.  A slow annual stepped minimum wage adjustment over twenty years will cause wage inflation.   Across the board wages will go up.  Sadly the last thirty years of trickle down economic vodoo, wage deflation has been the rule and the median income has crashed in direct proportion to the wealth distribution which has crippled demand and our GDP.  During this period the value of capital was artificially enhanced by lower tax rates and crushing reductions in the median income as multi national corporations and individuals came to the trough of subsidy and tax elimination and pigged out taking valuable capital assets in the form of factories where they could continue the downward wage pressure.

Germany took a different approaches with wages and capital......and their economy has grown at a far greater rate than the American economy and the median income in that country crushed our numbers during the last thirty years.   So to somebody with no training or education in economics, your simplistic paradigm of trickle down always made sense, and your prejudices reinforce that some labor has no value.....sadly you cannot even fathom how stupid your posts are when discussing economics.

As the know all, experienced it all, did it all and did it better than anyone, why is it so hard for you to answer these questions?

PLUS, you refuse to answer these simple questions. Why?

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

2seaoat



I am waiting for you to answer your own question which I suspect you do not have an answer. We can discuss your answers. If you examine Micro economics, there will certainly be factual situations which have validity, but we are talking about macro solutions which are absolutely sound.....so answer your questions and convince me of their relevancy. I will not waste a second on the irrelevant.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:I am waiting for you to answer your own question which I suspect you do not have an answer.  We can discuss your answers.  If you examine Micro economics, there will certainly be factual situations which have validity, but we are talking about macro solutions which are absolutely sound.....so answer your questions and convince me of their relevancy.  I will not waste a second on the irrelevant.

Why don't you just say you do not know the answers nor do you want to be confused with the facts.

As the know all, experienced it all, did it all and did it better than anyone, why is it so hard for you to answer these questions?

PLUS, you refuse to answer these simple questions. Why?

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

2seaoat



Why don't you just say you do not know the answers nor do you want to be confused with the facts.


I am waiting for those facts because I certainly am doing no....zero....nada research to answer your questions when you can make your presentation as to why these question should even be answered.....answer the question, and then make your argument as to relevancy. Of course that would defeat the purpose and allow intelligent dialogue as to your alleged facts and relevancy.....this as usual is a sophomoric exercise, and having done this before, I wait for your facts.....which sure have been difficult for you to disclose.....I wonder....could there be a reason, or do you not want to waste your time either.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Why don't you just say you do not know the answers nor do you want to be confused with the facts.


I am waiting for those facts because I certainly am doing no....zero....nada research to answer your questions when you can make your presentation as to why these question should even be answered..... answer the question, and then make your argument as to relevancy.   Of course that would defeat the purpose and allow intelligent dialogue as to your alleged facts and relevancy.....this as usual is a sophomoric exercise, and having done this before, I wait for your facts.....which sure have been difficult for you to disclose.....I wonder....could there be a reason, or do you not want to waste your time either.

THANK YOU for confirming that results, measuring results, cost effectiveness, cost benefit of any of their programs ONLY IF THEY MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD! Is there any wonder we're $17.6 TRILLION in debt with over a HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLARS in unfunded mandates and NONE OF THEM CARE!


That you don't know and don't care is despicable. Our children their children and their children are going to suffer lower standards of living and massive taxes which we are seeing today. Why do you think that's a good thing?

As the know all, experienced it all, did it all and did it better than anyone, why is it so hard for you to answer these questions?

PLUS, you refuse to answer these simple questions. Why?

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:I am waiting for you to answer your own question which I suspect you do not have an answer.  We can discuss your answers.  If you examine Micro economics, there will certainly be factual situations which have validity, but we are talking about macro solutions which are absolutely sound.....so answer your questions and convince me of their relevancy.  I will not waste a second on the irrelevant.

Why don't you just say you do not know the answers nor do you want to be confused with the facts.

As the know all, experienced it all, did it all and did it better than anyone, why is it so hard for you to answer these questions?

PLUS, you refuse to answer these simple questions. Why?

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills? All twelve of them probably won't be hired .. unless the company is Tyson or some other conglomerate that feeds on the blood of undocumented workers.

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income? 13% per Marco Rubio.

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage? Unknown depending on which survey you favor.

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

Now Herr Markle, step up yourself kiddo, and tell us what percent of the available work force cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?
C'mon ... tell us please and cite your source.
LOL

2seaoat



He does not know or care to have facts....it is the innuendo and association of the concept which serve his purposes. Mr. Markle is allergic to facts which he has shown time and time again.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:He does not know or care to have facts....it is the innuendo and association of the concept which serve his purposes.  Mr. Markle is allergic to facts which he has shown time and time again.

STILL, you and my Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger duck and dodge my easy questions just as a kid playing dodge ball dodges being hit. Wordslinger did go out of his way to show that he has no clue and is totally ignorant of the subject.

Once again kids, jump in and vividly display your brilliance.

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:He does not know or care to have facts....it is the innuendo and association of the concept which serve his purposes.  Mr. Markle is allergic to facts which he has shown time and time again.

STILL, you and my Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger duck and dodge my easy questions just as a kid playing dodge ball dodges being hit.  Wordslinger did go out of his way to show that he has no clue and is totally ignorant of the subject.

Once again kids, jump in and vividly display your brilliance.

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!


Now Herr Markle, step up yourself kiddo, and tell us what percent of the available work force cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?
C'mon ... tell us please and cite your source. You conservatives can't answer even simple questions, right?

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:He does not know or care to have facts....it is the innuendo and association of the concept which serve his purposes.  Mr. Markle is allergic to facts which he has shown time and time again.

STILL, you and my Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger duck and dodge my easy questions just as a kid playing dodge ball dodges being hit.  Wordslinger did go out of his way to show that he has no clue and is totally ignorant of the subject.

Once again kids, jump in and vividly display your brilliance.

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!


Now Herr Markle, step up yourself kiddo, and tell us what percent of the available work force cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?
C'mon ... tell us please and cite your source.  You conservatives can't answer even simple questions, right?

That's not any of the questions I asked. Now please concentrate.

Once again kids, jump in and vividly display your brilliance.

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

Why so afraid?

All you're asking is what is the unemployment rate of high school dropouts between 16 and 24. As you know, it's a lot.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:He does not know or care to have facts....it is the innuendo and association of the concept which serve his purposes.  Mr. Markle is allergic to facts which he has shown time and time again.

STILL, you and my Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger duck and dodge my easy questions just as a kid playing dodge ball dodges being hit.  Wordslinger did go out of his way to show that he has no clue and is totally ignorant of the subject.

Once again kids, jump in and vividly display your brilliance.

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!


Now Herr Markle, step up yourself kiddo, and tell us what percent of the available work force cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?
C'mon ... tell us please and cite your source.  You conservatives can't answer even simple questions, right?

That's not any of the questions I asked.  Now please concentrate.

Once again kids, jump in and vividly display your brilliance.

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, what percentage of households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

Why so afraid?  

All you're asking is what is the unemployment rate of high school dropouts between 16 and 24.  As you know, it's a lot.

Crickets Herr Markle. My question erases the significance of your's. LOL

2seaoat



How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?


Well I promised myself not to waste time researching your questions, but heck......could I have your employer's name and address.

Markle

Markle

For raising the minimum wage?  Let'm know! - Page 4 AnimatedLaughterPink

Wordslinger and 2seaoat are PROUD either of their ignorance OR they are ashamed of the figures they would have to post knowing full well those figures would make them look even more foolish than usual.

Keep up the good work guys, you are terrific foils.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:For raising the minimum wage?  Let'm know! - Page 4 AnimatedLaughterPink

Wordslinger and 2seaoat are PROUD either of their ignorance OR they are ashamed of the figures they would have to post knowing full well those figures would make them look even more foolish than usual.

Keep up the good work guys, you are terrific foils.

Yeah you sure whipped us by avoiding answering what percent of available workers are illegals with no math capabilities, and who can't speak English.

What's the sound of one hand clapping in self-congratulation? LOL!

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Guest

The other day I overheard a college-age kid (my assumption) say "if they raise the minimum wage to $15, that's going to add only about ten cents to the price of a Burger King Whopper".  Sad....

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Guest

2seaoat wrote:I spoke the truth.  You cannot slander when you speak the truth.   A monkey can get a sales license.   If you are a pretty blonde with a big pink car and signs all over which say......I never finished high school......I never went to college.......I do not know anything.......but I can tell you that the kitchen is beautiful, and it has a new roof........and I get paid for this.

About 10% of real estate professionals are intelligent, and when one talks about changing the laws to allow house showing by minimal wage folks, open houses, the squeal from the monopoly is too funny.  Give me a minimum wage house sitter, and a good real estate attorney, and eliminate the billions wasted on folks who barely can write a sentence, and maybe we can quit this illusion that for those billions there is any service connected to the same.  Now Mr. Markle is obviously part of the 10%, but he has admitted teaching these minimum wage qualified folks so he must know what I am talking about.....dumbest profession next to barbers and hairdressers who at least are good with rumors.

Seems to me that if it's so easy to sit for a Real Estate exam, which will enable one to make a lucrative salary (commission) that's exactly what these minimum wage earners should do. Problem solved.

Markle

Markle

colaguy wrote:
2seaoat wrote:I spoke the truth.  You cannot slander when you speak the truth.   A monkey can get a sales license.   If you are a pretty blonde with a big pink car and signs all over which say......I never finished high school......I never went to college.......I do not know anything.......but I can tell you that the kitchen is beautiful, and it has a new roof........and I get paid for this.

About 10% of real estate professionals are intelligent, and when one talks about changing the laws to allow house showing by minimal wage folks, open houses, the squeal from the monopoly is too funny.  Give me a minimum wage house sitter, and a good real estate attorney, and eliminate the billions wasted on folks who barely can write a sentence, and maybe we can quit this illusion that for those billions there is any service connected to the same.  Now Mr. Markle is obviously part of the 10%, but he has admitted teaching these minimum wage qualified folks so he must know what I am talking about.....dumbest profession next to barbers and hairdressers who at least are good with rumors.

Seems to me that if it's so easy to sit for a Real Estate exam, which will enable one to make a lucrative salary (commission) that's exactly what these minimum wage earners should do. Problem solved.

Good point. The problem is that it requires long hours, much education and hard work.

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