For raising the minimum wage? Let'm know!

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:Come on Progressives, how many households are dependent on one minimum wage income?

How much is someone worth to an employer if they cannot spell, cannot do simple arithmetic, have not graduated from high school, have no work ethic and no skills?

Come on Progressives, show us all what you've got!

What is the typical income of a household where at least one worker is earning minimum wage?

Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!

Okay, we understand you hate immigrants.  But your idea that most of the people receiving minimum wages are foreignors who don't speak English or have any job skills is as absurd as your advocating that big American companies should keep their profits over seas instead of paying taxes that would cut the deficit.  Again, I hate Amerika Inc.  and you hate american workers.  Reality!!!

2seaoat wrote:I spoke the truth.  You cannot slander when you speak the truth.   A monkey can get a sales license.   If you are a pretty blonde with a big pink car and signs all over which say......I never finished high school......I never went to college.......I do not know anything.......but I can tell you that the kitchen is beautiful, and it has a new roof........and I get paid for this.

About 10% of real estate professionals are intelligent, and when one talks about changing the laws to allow house showing by minimal wage folks, open houses, the squeal from the monopoly is too funny.  Give me a minimum wage house sitter, and a good real estate attorney, and eliminate the billions wasted on folks who barely can write a sentence, and maybe we can quit this illusion that for those billions there is any service connected to the same.  Now Mr. Markle is obviously part of the 10%, but he has admitted teaching these minimum wage qualified folks so he must know what I am talking about.....dumbest profession next to barbers and hairdressers who at least are good with rumors.

2seaoat wrote:BTW, I think the dumbest profession is not having one.  Razz



Profound......sure you do not have a real estate license.   I remember taking my broker test.  I am at a university where they had a packed hall full of people all uptight about the test.  It was about 1983 and it had about a hundred multiple choice and about 15 closing workout questions where you had to answer number questions on a closing.   You were given 2 hours to take the test.  I get to the fifty minute mark of the test and am I first to stand up in this crowed lecture hall at the University, and the person sitting next to me as I am getting up......"are you giving up".......no, I am done.......his response was......."oh chit".......about the easiest test I had every taken as I cruised through the multiple choice and when it came to the work out you could answer 10 of the 15 questions in your head in about five minutes.  The other five questions would take about a half hour to go through silly gymnastics.......I picked the most logical and got up knowing that I probably was 90% or higher.

Now in one business I own I had to take a test for the Department of Public Health.  It was for a waste hauling license.  You know the guys that drive the pumper trucks full of chit.....well they need to take a test to get a license from the department of public health.  Now that was a hard test.  It had chemistry, math, and more complex calculations than my broker's test.  I can say this without hesitation that the person pumping out a porta john in most cases is usually smarter than most people who possess a real estate license.   I called the head of the Public health department and complained that I had passed the test, but the test was unfair because most of the questions dealt with land application when most waste haulers take the waste to municipal sewer facilities and do not apply it to the land.  I saw people not getting work who were intelligent and hard working because of a flawed test, and in another profession a trained monkey could pass the test as their incompetence flooded the market in the 80s90s and early 2000s........Oh a sidenote.......the Public Health folks created a bifurcated license, and those who did land treatment took the more difficult test and those who were basically pumpers took a reasonable test......a good day for the good guys.......and I am the only one on this forum who has a license to BS.

2seaoat wrote:BTW, I think the dumbest profession is not having one.  Razz



Profound......sure you do not have a real estate license.   and I am the only one on this forum who has a license to BS.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Herr Markle blushes at the thought of millions of Americans earning minimum wages at part time jobs, and forced to take foodstamps to get by.

Like many thousands of workers for Walmart -- one of the Robber Barons Herr Markle works for ...

2seaoat wrote:So you took the a test, in some state, 30 years ago. Could not have been Florida because you had to have an active sale-associates license for at least a year before you could take the brokers course.

Always good to see you boasting of your ignorance.


You are really clueless........a monkey could pass the test.....if only 45% are passing, then I guess they did not get enough monkeys......I still have my brokers license......think real hard.....you may figure it out.  Also, I am not trying to get under your skin.  My son is a licensed sales person, and he shares my laughter on the quality of people who are in real estate.  Again the top 10% and those who do mostly commercial......yea there is some quality which have skills above minimum wage.  If you think I am full of chit, you really are not that smart.  I have argued for years that all showings should be done by unlicensed people, and that the market should be for sale by owner with fewer higher licensed people, minimum wage house showings, and quality real estate lawyers working with title companies sharing a database platform.  Transactional costs could be lowered in half, and instead of pouring societies money down the rabbit hole of an entrenched monopoly which is extremely inefficient, title compaines will eventually have a vertical integrated platform and we need to pay minimal wage folks minimal wage.

2seaoat wrote:So you took the a test, in some state, 30 years ago. Could not have been Florida because you had to have an active sale-associates license for at least a year before you could take the brokers course.

Always good to see you boasting of your ignorance.


You are really clueless........a monkey could pass the test.....if only 45% are passing, then I guess they did not get enough monkeys......I still have my brokers license......think real hard.....you may figure it out. Also, I am not trying to get under your skin. My son is a licensed sales person, and he shares my laughter on the quality of people who are in real estate. Again the top 10% and those who do mostly commercial......yea there is some quality which have skills above minimum wage. If you think I am full of chit, you really are not that smart. I have argued for years that all showings should be done by unlicensed people, and that the market should be for sale by owner with fewer higher licensed people, minimum wage house showings, and quality real estate lawyers working with title companies sharing a database platform. Transactional costs could be lowered in half, and instead of pouring societies money down the rabbit hole of an entrenched monopoly which is extremely inefficient, title compaines will eventually have a vertical integrated platform and we need to pay minimal wage folks minimal wage.

2seaoat wrote:Evidently I need to teach the teachers..........my license is current....is yours?

2seaoat wrote:Label me anyway you want.   I want over the next 10 years the minimum wage to grow to the 1968 level adjusted for inflation.  I do not want it to be done in a year, but over a decade.   A gradual and economically certain increase in increments will put value on labor and shift our policies from a capital preference back to the labor of the American middle class.

Mr. Markle you go answer your own questions, because I worked my way through college on mostly minimum wage jobs....and I did that easily beginning my work in 1966 at 15.  When a young American kid can do the same, we will restore our middle class.  All your nonsense does not change a thing.  We allow capital to exploit Americans like the British did the same and we fought a revolution.  We do not need a revolution to fix America.  We need to elect common sense Republicans and Democrats who care about a middle class and a kid being able to work minimum wage jobs and earn a college degree.

2seaoat wrote:Come on now, step up or people are going to know how uninformed you are!


So you think I am uninformed.......because I do not want to waste time on the irrelevant.  I guess you could think that, but I doubt even you believe I am uniformed.   When the minimum wage returns to its prior standard adjusted for inflation, and when the tax rates return to 1985 levels, and when the median income after plummeting since the Reagan trickle down economics begins to rise again, I will not waste on second on chasing my tail to justify a failed economic experiment.   We have lost 60k factories, and we have lost millions of jobs, and now as we begin the path to recovery we need minimum wage adjustment, we need return to sane tax rates, and we need emphasis on the median income in American Politics, and to do that we need to elect American politicians who can achieve those goals.   So Mr. Markle do you agree with the goals, because if you do not why would I chase my tail for your goals which favor consolidated wealth, decimation of the American middle class, preferential treatment to big oil, gas ,and coal, and continued exorbitant military spending.   I will see the minimum wage rise in my lifetime....and I do not have much time......bet on it......so chase your own tail or admit your goals.

2seaoat wrote:Why don't we just add a zero behind every whole number and call it good? There... everybody happy now?


Sorry, a gradual targeted increase of the minimum wage will not be even handed addition of a zero.  It will cause layoffs, it will change the condition in many Americans lives while increasing demand, and finally we will see inflation unless the implementation is slow and steady.

At Wal Mart facing thirty percent increases in the labor side of their business plan will result in higher prices, fewer employees, and less profit for Wal Mart.

It is not as simple as putting a zero in place, and those with capital understand the threat and accordingly their shills are working overtime.

2seaoat wrote:Your legitimate graph proves you wrong.  From 1965 to 1980 poverty rates were greatly reduced and in fact the programs worked very well.  It was the corresponding change in the tax rates, cutting of programs which assisted people leaving poverty, and no real dollar increases in the minimum wage that started the steady climb in the rate of poverty in this country after the success of the mid 1960 programs to reduce poverty.

2seaoat wrote:As you are wont to ignore, the Poverty Rate was plunging from 1959. We continued to have raises in the minimum wage and still we have 15% living below the poverty rate.


The greatest drop in poverty in American history was a direct result of the war on Poverty.  Try to spin it any way you want, there is little doubt of the success of the same until it was dismantled and poverty rates once again began to rise.  Thank you for the graphs which back up the same.  There also are articles which confirm your graphs and I thought you would post the same as you are being very helpful tonight.

Markle wrote: