The Affordable Care Act Is Working

ppaca wrote:Too bad the past 6 months could not have been like the past 3 days. Written 21 and all young people in the past 3 days.

2seaoat wrote:Too bad the past 6 months could not have been like the past 3 days. Written 21 and all young people in the past 3 days.


You are our expert, and I am happy you are getting the business and I am happy young people are getting coverage. You know you will be attacked for telling the truth.

2seaoat wrote:Thirty million losing insurance
Utter nonsense.  Bigfoot is going to fly a rescue plane to pick up survivors who landed in a sugar cane field in India.........this is way too much fun.....the affordable care act is working.....and folks are freaking out.....I love this.  It was like after Obama won.....he was going to be impeached the first year.......now it will happen after the mid term elections......you gotta love stupid.

The little dirty secret.....people who are getting insurance are grateful.  Now as soon as the governors of the states who are playing politics put the people first......the medicaid coverage will explode and folks are going to have huge increases in the quality of their lives.........and all the while that background sound.......sobbing........of all those doom and gloom folks who did not see the end of the world......I thought they were not going to get two million covered.....ha.....nine million possible.

2seaoat wrote:Answer what question.....why Republican governors are not covering their citizens....so the slow witted can talk about lost insurance.....any other questions.

2seaoat wrote:Answer what question.....why Republican governors are not covering their citizens....so the slow witted can talk about lost insurance.....any other questions.

PkrBum wrote:How many were displaced from their ins?

How many of those are counted as new enrollees?

How many are newly eligible for expanded medicaid?

How many receive subsidy? At what level?

How many are young and healthy?

How many are older and have preexisting conditions?

How many have paid?

What is the net gain excluding medicaid?

Will the govt directly subsidize the ins corps to mitigate rate increases due before the election?

The law is now over 20,000 pages including the original 2,700 page bill, the multiple dept rules, and proposed regulations.

I don't think anyone has a firm grasp of this monstrosity... and only a fool would fully believe it's a good idea. Like you.

2seaoat wrote:All these folks having a hissy fit when Americans are in groves getting coverage.....it goes to character.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:All these folks having a hissy fit when Americans are in groves getting coverage.....it goes to character.

The word you are looking for is "DROVES".  We have GROVES of oranges, grapefruit, limes, and other citrus.

It goes to intelligence.

Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Eight million young adults now have coverage......that seems like a huge win, and 1.7 trillion savings.....just frosting on the cake........and it is only the first year......oh my.

Does that include the college graduate knuckleheads who dance on bar stools?

Karma wrote:it doesn't matter how many people signed up for it. if those people are not from the group this law was intended for, which is PREVIOUSLY UNINSURED, then they should NOT count as part of the count.

counting people who already had insurance but now are getting a subsidy is nothing more than a bigger tax burden on tax payers for a problem that did not exist before this. Such as people who lost their ins because of the bill then had to re-sign up. these people should not count in the number they were looking for.

also MANY or possibly MOST people on Medicaid should not count. not all of them. as of yet, they have not been able to separate or haven't done so on purpose probably those who are new to Medicaid because of the expansion or just those who would have qualified for Medicaid before the expansion. They have NOT separated those two entities.

obamacare has failed. anyone who can not understand what I have just said above knowing what this bill's intent was is lying to themselves. the bill has not only failed its target, it is and has been very effectively destroying the system we had.

Wordslinger wrote:

Karma wrote:it doesn't matter how many people signed up for it. if those people are not from the group this law was intended for, which is PREVIOUSLY UNINSURED, then they should NOT count as part of the count.

counting people who already had insurance but now are getting a subsidy is nothing more than a bigger tax burden on tax payers for a problem that did not exist before this. Such as people who lost their ins because of the bill then had to re-sign up. these people should not count in the number they were looking for.

also MANY or possibly MOST people on Medicaid should not count. not all of them. as of yet, they have not been able to separate or haven't done so on purpose probably those who are new to Medicaid because of the expansion or just those who would have qualified for Medicaid before the expansion. They have NOT separated those two entities.

obamacare has failed. anyone who can not understand what I have just said above knowing what this bill's intent was is lying to themselves. the bill has not only failed its target, it is and has been very effectively destroying the system we had.

Republican opponents carp and carp about the horrible effects of Obamacare, and their strongest solutions?  Tort reform that decreases lawsuits against medical malpractice, more competition between health insurers, and tax cuts for medical equipment manufacturers.

That's why republicans continue to fail at convincing anyone they know what's right for America.  The truth is, the only thing they want to do is kiss the assess of their corporate bosses for a better Amerika Inc.

Unfortunately, the democrats -- in a weird ongoing attempt to deal with their opponents in a rational way -- keep moving to the right.

The result is a dysfunctional healthcare system and a dysfunctional America.

It's all about money and always has been.  

Want to see improvement?

Stop people from buying legislators.

It's as simple as that!

PkrBum wrote:Do explain... how did obamacaid expansion or lack thereof cause the dislocation of a person's paid insurance plan due to obamacare rules, regulations, and requirements that rendered their plan non compliant and therefore terminated?

This ought to be good... and extremely long winded. Your posts are directly proportional in length to how wrong you are.

Dreamsglore wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Do explain... how did obamacaid expansion or lack thereof cause the dislocation of a person's paid insurance plan due to obamacare rules, regulations, and requirements that rendered their plan non compliant and therefore terminated?

This ought to be good... and extremely long winded. Your posts are directly proportional in length to how wrong you are.

The plans were inadequate. It's not hard to figure this out. The insurance companies did not want to increase coverage due to profit loss. That's just too bad they were so greedy. You continue to find fault w/ a law that helped most people. You can continue to walk in step w/ the others who just don't care about other people as a whole. Sad.

PkrBum wrote:Do explain... how did obamacaid expansion or lack thereof cause the dislocation of a person's paid insurance plan due to obamacare rules, regulations, and requirements that rendered their plan non compliant and therefore terminated?

This ought to be good... and extremely long winded. Your posts are directly proportional in length to how wrong you are.

PkrBum wrote:" The cancellations are entirely a question of republican governors not expanding medicaid. Statistically insignificant other than those who chose to not extend coverage. So you want me to argue that stupid did not have stupid results? Let somebody else be your tiny dancer." Seagoat

PkrBum wrote:Do explain... how did obamacaid expansion or lack thereof cause the dislocation of a person's paid insurance plan due to obamacare rules, regulations, and requirements that rendered their plan non compliant and therefore terminated?

This ought to be good... and extremely long winded. Your posts are directly proportional in length to how wrong you are.

Try again.