Personal ID for Voting

Gunz wrote:I think Joanie hit the nail on the head.  Any person that has the means to get to the polls to vote certainly should also have the ability to obtain an ID.   The mere use of the excuse that "they don't have the ability or funds to get one" in this day and age is laughable.

knothead wrote:

Gunz wrote:I think Joanie hit the nail on the head.  Any person that has the means to get to the polls to vote certainly should also have the ability to obtain an ID.   The mere use of the excuse that "they don't have the ability or funds to get one" in this day and age is laughable.

What is more laughable is the so-called motive here . . . it's a solution looking for a problem.

knothead wrote:

Gunz wrote:I think Joanie hit the nail on the head.  Any person that has the means to get to the polls to vote certainly should also have the ability to obtain an ID.   The mere use of the excuse that "they don't have the ability or funds to get one" in this day and age is laughable.

What is more laughable is the so-called motive here . . . it's a solution looking for a problem.

Sal wrote:I don't know what's more offensive ....


.... not caring that this segment of the electorate is being systematic targeted for disenfranchisement, or pretending they don't even exist. 


The modern day "conservative" movement in as spiteful, cold-hearted, and unpatriotic as any movement in American history. 

2seaoat wrote:I think that people either have not voted, or unfamiliar with how we get registered to vote.  I am not upset with positive identification with utility bills, lease, deeds, etc at the time of registering a voter.  What I do not want on the day of the election somebody taking the right to vote away from a citizen.  There are easy solutions using an ipad and camera when registering a voter.....problem solved and no election day shenanigans.

Dreamsglore wrote:You know, most of the people on this forum have no idea what a poor persons life is like. I worked for a charity that resold donated goods and is very famous around the country. I won't say which one,however, it is a very profitable business to the tune of 18-20 million a year just for the small area it served. I was middle management but the people who worked in the stores made minimum wage and they were POOR.  They made up the majority of the employees and I learned what it's like to be that poor. They were offered health insurance but most couldn't afford to pay the $30 copay to see the Dr.They came to work sick and exhausted.They drove raggedy cars that broke down all the time or took the bus and walked and often couldn't pay their rent or utilities in the same month.Many years I bought x-mas presents for employees kids who otherwise would have nothing on x-mas day. So laughing about them not be able to afford ID even for $25 is very ignorant of a world you have no clue about. I learned to appreciate and respect these people whose daily lives was a struggle just to provide the basics. They worked very hard for that little bit of money and their struggles were real and heartbreaking. Getting an ID to vote was the least of their worries and money spent for something they couldn't eat. Walk a mile in their shoes and then talk about how easy it is to do something.

2seaoat wrote:And I have always had a legal ID.


If the intent is only an id, it should be during the voter registration process, and a simple camera and photo ends this debate.  When you register, they have your photo.   When they are asking folks for specific IDs, this gives the discretion on election day to take somebody's right to vote......if the Id was incorporated in the registration, there would not be denial of voting on election day and problem is solved.

This is Jim crow poll tax and literacy test with exactly the same intent....to deny access to voters.  The courts will universally deny the voter id because there are methods of registration of voters which can involve attachment of a photo which puts no burden on voters, and does not allow denial on election day.......now if that became the standard, those who want to deny folks would disappear as would this non issue.

Ignorance abounds if folks on this forum cannot understand the intent of the id laws to solve a non existent problem.

QueenOfHearts wrote:Maybe some of these social services agencies should be doing something to help poor people get photo identification.  Nothing to do with voting, but with all the issues regarding identity theft and the requirements for identification nowadays.  It would be a shame for someone to go without a service simply because they did not have proper ID.

Chrissy wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Maybe some of these social services agencies should be doing something to help poor people get photo identification.  Nothing to do with voting, but with all the issues regarding identity theft and the requirements for identification nowadays.  It would be a shame for someone to go without a service simply because they did not have proper ID.

facts are, there are not that many people who are in the country legally that don't have a ID.  Because there is no way they could function. except criminals I suppose.

The Dude wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Maybe some of these social services agencies should be doing something to help poor people get photo identification.  Nothing to do with voting, but with all the issues regarding identity theft and the requirements for identification nowadays.  It would be a shame for someone to go without a service simply because they did not have proper ID.

facts are, there are not that many people who are in the country legally that don't have a ID.  Because there is no way they could function. except criminals I suppose.

The FACTS are that in North Carolina between 2004 and 2010 there were 2 reported voter fraud instances in which millions voted, North Carolina being having just passed one of the most restrictive voter laws in the country, clearly this is
Not about voter fraud.

Chrissy wrote:

The Dude wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Maybe some of these social services agencies should be doing something to help poor people get photo identification.  Nothing to do with voting, but with all the issues regarding identity theft and the requirements for identification nowadays.  It would be a shame for someone to go without a service simply because they did not have proper ID.

facts are, there are not that many people who are in the country legally that don't have a ID.  Because there is no way they could function. except criminals I suppose.

The FACTS are that in North Carolina between 2004 and 2010 there were 2 reported voter fraud instances in which millions voted, North Carolina being having just passed one of the most restrictive voter laws in the country, clearly this is
Not about voter fraud.

you assume all fraud is caught... lol very funny dude you are.

facts are for you lefty is that this isn't about poor people and you know it. its about cheating. and yes all those dead people that vote, cartoon characters, illegals etc

why do you have a problem with people having to have a ID to vote. don't answer, I already know, because you are a cheater.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:An education is the key to making a Democracy work.... Including everyone obviously isn't working anymore because all we have is people electing others that guarantee a handout. I'm giving my students an American citizenship test starting Friday thru the weekend just to show them what others , who are beating he door down to live here, have to go through to get to stay legally. Also, to highlight their lack of knowledge on their own country.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

The Dude wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Maybe some of these social services agencies should be doing something to help poor people get photo identification.  Nothing to do with voting, but with all the issues regarding identity theft and the requirements for identification nowadays.  It would be a shame for someone to go without a service simply because they did not have proper ID.

facts are, there are not that many people who are in the country legally that don't have a ID.  Because there is no way they could function. except criminals I suppose.

The FACTS are that in North Carolina between 2004 and 2010 there were 2 reported voter fraud instances in which millions voted, North Carolina being having just passed one of the most restrictive voter laws in the country, clearly this is
Not about voter fraud.

you assume all fraud is caught... lol very funny dude you are.

facts are for you lefty is that this isn't about poor people and you know it. its about cheating. and yes all those dead people that vote, cartoon characters, illegals etc

why do you have a problem with people having to have a ID to vote. don't answer, I already know, because you are a cheater.

One of the main reasons you are a moron is because of dumb responses like this. There are more,though.