Would Chris Christy cause a traffic jam for political retribution?

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

Seaoat: If Christy really didn't know, he should have.

If he knew, he should be behind bars.

Politically, he's toast!

Benghazi, at its best, was nothing more than a costly mistake.

Christy's political retribution situation was intended.

Reality.

The original idea from the Bush Administration was not a bad idea.....execution certainly did not work perfectly, but my daughter has been part of a federal task force with her prosecuting cold cases with the Latin Kings and they have been achieving spectacular results in cities in America. The drop in violent crime is not by accident, and the full court federal involvement has been what is breaking the back of the Mexican Cartel. I have seen 400% drops in violent crime in a five year period in communities the feds have targeted. You are clueless as usual as to the concept of probabilities......in a full court press which is multi faceted there have been mistakes made, and my daughter can describe some whoppers, but she is putting hard core mexican cartel folks in prison forever.......and this is entirely the result of federal cooperation with DEA, FBI, and the firearm folks your panties are in wad about some deaths which should have been avoided, but communities which were having 50 folks a year being murdered a year in drug warfare, drop to zero.....amazing results, and I am sorry your sophomoric parroting of congressional committees who are looking for political brownie points are asking the wrong questions......like what is working in this historic crime drop.....that is not a political question, but you are simply one dimensional.....nothing new.

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TIJUANA – The surge in deadly violence continues in the city, with six people killed since Sunday, a total of 27 in two weeks, authorities said.

The latest homicides pushed the death toll this year to 353 through Wednesday. State authorities estimate that 80 per cent of the murders can be attributed to conflicts among criminal bands over the sale of illegal drugs on the street.

It was just on Aug. 25, when the Baja California Attorney General’s Office noted that there had been nearly 200 fewer murders this year in Tijuana compared to the same period last year. The deadly violence has increased since then, however.

Jueves 9 de Enero del 2014

http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/18463/27-killed-in-two-weeks-in-Tijuana-drug-violence/

I don't think you should post what your daughter is prosecuting... it would be best to delete that quickly sir.



Front page of papers with her picture......sorry you are so clueless, I want to laugh. Do you even know what a cold case is, or what happens when the feds come in and take down a gang structure.......sorry you do not even have enough sense to know what is printable and what is not. I guess you are least consistent focusing on the irrelevant and extrapolating, and miscomprehending the reality these folks are dealing with every day......the task force has moved on......and if you even have a clue what a task force does, you would understand it is an intergovernmental cooperation to achieve a goal......they nailed it. She has been followed by gang bangers and their family members in stores, and was the talk of the local county jail when she was going to have her second baby......these brave folks are out there taking down bad guys and risking their lives while you in typical fashion are looking for sophomoric political agenda which makes all government bad......well the familes of those folks who had their brains blown out and burned up and ran over because of DRUGs and GANGS.......get a clue.....you are clueless.

2seaoat wrote:The original idea from the Bush Administration was not a bad idea.....execution certainly did not work perfectly, but my daughter has been part of a federal task force with her prosecuting cold cases with the Latin Kings and they have been achieving spectacular results in cities in America.  The drop in violent crime is not by accident, and the full court federal involvement has been what is breaking the back of the Mexican Cartel.  I have seen 400% drops in violent crime in a five year period in communities the feds have targeted.  You are clueless as usual as to the concept of probabilities......in a full court press which is multi faceted there have been mistakes made, and my daughter can describe some whoppers, but she is putting hard core mexican cartel folks in prison forever.......and this is entirely the result of federal cooperation with DEA, FBI, and the firearm folks your panties are in wad about some deaths which should have been avoided, but communities which were having 50 folks a year being murdered a year in drug warfare, drop to zero.....amazing results, and I am sorry your sophomoric parroting of congressional committees who are looking for political brownie points are asking the wrong questions......like what is working in this historic crime drop.....that is not a political question, but you are simply one dimensional.....nothing new.

Countering your claims of winning battles, the fact remains the amount of drugs being smuggled into America and consumed by American users, continues to increase. This despite the commendable efforts of your daughter and her colleagues.

We're not winning the war on drugs, and that's reality!

2seaoat wrote:...your panties are in wad about some deaths which should have been avoided,...

I see... It's alright that a few people died due to the incompetence of the administration...

How many deaths does it take before it becomes not alright?

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ljy6PTbX9I

  

TIJUANA – The surge in deadly violence

Another sock and get a clue......the drop of violent crime in America is historic, it is a direct result of the Policies of President Bush and President Obama.....you know government doing good things.......and why do you think the violence grows in Mexico......this analysis should be priceless.

2seaoat wrote:TIJUANA – The surge in deadly violence

Another sock and get a clue......the drop of violent crime in America is historic, it is a direct result of the Policies of President Bush and President Obama.....you know government doing good things.......and why do you think the violence grows in Mexico......this analysis should be priceless.  

your ignoring the fact that it hasn't dropped, not violent crime.. you know what that word "violence" is really about.

I made a thread just for you so you could stop making a fool of yourself lol

You cut and paste and are without the cognitive skill to discern that the USA today article selectively ignored murder rates the key statistic in violent crime. Please go to the FBI stats without editorial manipulation and learn the facts. We are at historic low violent crime rate under President Obama and the policies of President Bush and President Obama matter.


We lost the war on drugs, and we need to decriminalize 80% of drug use. We can chew gum and walk, and we can discern the difference between personal use and criminal enterprises and the violence associated with the same.

Wordslinger wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

Seaoat:  If Christy really didn't know, he should have.

If he knew, he should be behind bars.

Politically, he's toast!

Benghazi, at its best, was nothing more than a costly mistake.

Christy's political retribution situation was intended.

Reality.

The lack of support for these people was intentional.  And that is nothing more than a costly mistake?

Good for you!

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

You thought Gingrich would make a good President too.LOL!

I see... It's alright that a few people died due to the incompetence of the administration...

How many deaths does it take before it becomes not alright?

My best man's dad was a policeman blown away by a shotgun in a bar robbery, I knew a local cop who got kicked up to the feds and at his going away party with twenty big armed LEO, he goes outside to smoke by his car and he was stomped to death by five gangbangers.......you live in political fantasy......you are looking for scapegoats to create an alternative reality.....it is fricking maddening to see such myopic lack of knowledge of what gang violence has done to America, and yes Wordslinger is right that the war on drugs needs to change, but the prosecution of the murderers and tracking their weapons.....this stuff is not a political game....it is life or death and it is certainly not your mayberry and cornfields

You thought Gingrich would make a good President too.LOL!


Yes, I still think he was the best candidate in the 2012 election. No apology. Brilliance, experience and intelligence ,make better government, and my support of the good job President Obama has done is the very same principle. Christy is brilliant, experienced, and intelligent. So is Hillary Clinton. I just happen to be a Republican and will vote for Christy in the primary. I still think Newt needs to be part of the process, but I cannot support the Dixiecrat anti intellectual dumbed down racial politics......which is not machiavallian rather systemic and intended.

2seaoat wrote:I see... It's alright that a few people died due to the incompetence of the administration...

How many deaths does it take before it becomes not alright?

My best man's dad was a policeman blown away by a shotgun in a bar robbery, I knew a local cop who got kicked up to the feds and at his going away party with twenty big armed LEO, he goes outside to smoke by his car and he was stomped to death by five gangbangers.......you live in political fantasy......you are looking for scapegoats to create an alternative reality.....it is fricking maddening to see such myopic lack of knowledge of what gang violence has done to America, and yes Wordslinger is right that the war on drugs needs to change, but the prosecution of the murderers and tracking their weapons.....this stuff is not a political game....it is life or death and it is certainly not your mayberry and cornfields

The only one living in a political fantasy is you in your pathetic belief that legalizing drugs is the solution to a growing social problem.

Instead you attempt to distract and deflect from a valid question by telling stories you have no clue about the true meaning of, just as you did with Citizen Kane.

Your ignorance to the true underlying issue is a ongoing amusement to someone like me as you attempt to reach Nirvana while staring at your bellybutton as eat out of your mop bucket.

*****ROFLMAO*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FklUAoZ6KxY

  

Dreamsglore wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

You thought Gingrich would make a good President too.LOL!

Former Speaker of the House brought an almost balanced budget along with passing the Welfare Reform Act of 1996. This took millions of people OFF of the welfare rolls and tax recipients to the payrolls and tax payers. Notice how those two things come together? It also restored their self confidence, pride and very souls.

President Barack Hussein Obama reversed that act with his brilliant Trillion Dollar Stimulus Plan. We all know how well that's working!

Nixon kept telling us all during the whole long Watergate scandal that he had no knowledge of any of it.  That it was all just the brainchild of renegade underlings.

But in the end,  we found out Nixon had been lying to us all along.

I lived through all that. So don't ask me to trust what any politicians are telling me at face value (and that goes for democrat and republican and any other kind).

And to prove that I'm not partisan,  I also lived through Slick Willy getting in front of the tv camera and telling the whole nation "I did not have sex with that woman".

We found out he was lying too.

The definition of the word "is" is not how a politician defines it. It's how the goddamn dictionary of the english language defines it.

Markle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

You thought Gingrich would make a good President too.LOL!

Former Speaker of the House brought an almost balanced budget along with passing the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.  This took millions of people OFF of the welfare rolls and tax recipients to the payrolls and tax payers.  Notice how those two things come together?  It also restored their self confidence, pride and very souls.

President Barack Hussein Obama reversed that act with his brilliant Trillion Dollar Stimulus Plan.  We all know how well that's working!

I don't know why you feel you need to lie about stuff just to continue your hate fest against Obama? Obama did not reverse the Welfare Reform Act. It is still alive and well. Try to get your facts straight.

CHRISTIE:  "I had no knowledge in this issue,  it's planning, or execution".

For me,  that is the only thing that needs to be resolved with all this.  Whether or not he's lying when he says that.

I don't agree with wordslinger and Sal that even if he didn't know anything about it he's still just as responsible and should resign.  

But I have the same problem with bridgegate that I had with watergate.  I could never figure out why underlings would go to the extreme of doing really stupid illegal stuff JUST TO BENEFIT A BOSS WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE DOING IT.

I've never had anybody do stupid illegal shit without my knowledge JUST TO BENEFIT ME. In my experience, that aint how human nature works.
So I start out being very skeptical.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

Seaoat:  If Christy really didn't know, he should have.

If he knew, he should be behind bars.

Politically, he's toast!

Benghazi, at its best, was nothing more than a costly mistake.

Christy's political retribution situation was intended.

Reality.

The lack of support for these people was intentional.  And that is nothing more than a costly mistake?

Good for you!

So 4 Americans died as a result of the fallibility of their government. And more than 4,000 Americans died as a result of Bush and Cheney's lies.

But I guess in your Nazi handbook, Herr Markle, some Americans are worth more than others!

The point I was making was that Obama and his Secretary of State failed to protect the Benghazi consulate, but it wasn't an intended action.

Chris Christy's attack on the people of New Jersey is a direct, intended act of an elected official.

And the Christy event has nothing whatever to do with Benghazi, which, along with your panting list, you keep bringing up every chance you can in the hope of injuring Obama. You are entirely predictable, and everyone here knows it. And that's why your repeated pastings are ineffective. Reality.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Markle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

You thought Gingrich would make a good President too.LOL!

Former Speaker of the House brought an almost balanced budget along with passing the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.  This took millions of people OFF of the welfare rolls and tax recipients to the payrolls and tax payers.  Notice how those two things come together?  It also restored their self confidence, pride and very souls.

President Barack Hussein Obama reversed that act with his brilliant Trillion Dollar Stimulus Plan.  We all know how well that's working!

I don't know why you feel you need to lie about stuff just to continue your hate fest against Obama? Obama did not reverse the Welfare Reform Act. It is still alive and well. Try to get your facts straight.

President Barack Hussein Obama rescinded the requirement that someone work to receive benefits.

Try to get your facts straight.

Obama kills welfare reform
   
By Dick Morris - 07/17/12 10:07 PM EDT

Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Read more: http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/238501-obama-kills-welfare-reform#ixzz2q1eZrbzs

Markle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Markle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

2seaoat wrote:I believe Christy and think he would make a good President.  Its easy....give immunity to any of the underlings......they will sing, and if he has done anything which is not appropriate, it will play out.  Tempest in a teapot by those trying to destroy a good man.   He will run in 2016 and will be a top three candidate in delegate votes.  Fast and furious mistakes were made.  Some can blame President Bush or President Obama, but the truth is that these are mid level decision making, and not Presidential.  Also the battle with those gangs is ongoing and dangerous so for the folks who rode the little bus.....just maybe operational discretion is in order.....just a common sense response.....but carry on....the little bus will pick you up.

You thought Gingrich would make a good President too.LOL!

Former Speaker of the House brought an almost balanced budget along with passing the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.  This took millions of people OFF of the welfare rolls and tax recipients to the payrolls and tax payers.  Notice how those two things come together?  It also restored their self confidence, pride and very souls.

President Barack Hussein Obama reversed that act with his brilliant Trillion Dollar Stimulus Plan.  We all know how well that's working!

I don't know why you feel you need to lie about stuff just to continue your hate fest against Obama? Obama did not reverse the Welfare Reform Act. It is still alive and well. Try to get your facts straight.

President Barack Hussein Obama rescinded the requirement that someone work to receive benefits.

Try to get your facts straight.

Obama kills welfare reform
   
By Dick Morris - 07/17/12 10:07 PM EDT

Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Read more: http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/238501-obama-kills-welfare-reform#ixzz2q1eZrbzs

The Heritage Foundation today spread a falsehood about a change the Obama administration is instituting in the 1996 welfare reform law that has rapidly spread through the right-wing blogosphere. Letting Heritage and the right wing get away with this lie would do serious harm to people trying to pull themselves out of poverty.

http://www.nationofchange.org/heritage-foundation-lies-about-obama-welfare-reform-change-1342271551

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obamas-plan-abandons-tenet/

actually Obama opened the door so states could remove that part of the law of having people look for jobs in order to get welfare services. Before that part of the initial welfare reform law, people had to do it.

So this made it easier for states to dole out more welfare dollars at the tax payers cost. Money which comes from federal coffers.

so yes, its true. Obama gutted the welfare reform act which probably explains why the numbers are so high, along with the shitty assed economy the bastard in the white house is overlording.