One movie goer with a gun could have stopped 70 people from being shot..

Lurch wrote:I don't consider myself a gun nut. I don't think they should be sold in shows or anywhere else without a background check but I think he passed that, I never really read the whole story. You're blaming the problem on an object and not the person. I think these lunatics shouldn't be named or have their mugshots available, a lot of them just do it to be "famous". I don't like people talking or texting while they're driving but I don't want to outlaw all cellphones but I would like to see it par with a DUI. What is your plan?

Gunz wrote: I hate to go all Teo on you guys but I'm still wondering if this may have been a staged incident...a false flag incident on the heels of the upcoming U.N vote.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/theater-shooting-in-aurora-colorado-screams-false-flag/18061/

salinsky wrote:I think that Sal possibly believes that concealed carry license holders are just a bunch of Skoal dipping gun nut yahoos. I'm sure that there are a few of those among our ranks but for the most part we are career types and come from normal households. Most of us practice regularly (every 2 to 3 weeks) and keep up with the legalities snd responsibilities associated with carrying a lethal weapon on our side. Most of us in that theatre situation would have evaluated the conditions and decided that we could not take the shot if it was in fact smokey, dark and full of mayhem.

Here's a shocker - I own two guns and have a concealed carry permit. I also dip SKOAL from time to time when I'm at the ballpark (I don't let the kids see me doing it tho). LOL.

I hate to go all Teo on you guys but I'm still wondering if this may have been a staged incident...a false flag incident on the heels of the upcoming U.N vote.

That's fucking nutz.

Yeah, it is. A six year old child was killed.

salinsky wrote: I think that we probably should take a look at the high capacity magazines that have no purpose other than to shoot people efficiently. [/font]

ButtMan wrote:

salinsky wrote: I think that we probably should take a look at the high capacity magazines that have no purpose other than to shoot people efficiently. [/font]

There probably is a valid argument that this guy would have not been in possession of the "high capacity magazines" if they were not legally sold.
But there is another equally valid argument. And that one would argue that, after learning about his ability to booby trap his apartment with explosives, that even if he could not have obtained "high capacity magazines" he probably would just used a bomb and produced an equal number of victims or maybe even more.
If "high capacity magazines" had been outlawed before 1992 it would not have prevented McVeigh from blowing up the Murrah Building. They woulda had to also outlaw Ryder trucks and fertilizer and diesel fuel.

And I guarantee you that outlawing "high capacity magazines" would not deter the gangbangers and drug dealers from having them cause they would have them regardless if they can't be had legally.

salinsky wrote:

Lurch wrote:I don't consider myself a gun nut. I don't think they should be sold in shows or anywhere else without a background check but I think he passed that, I never really read the whole story. You're blaming the problem on an object and not the person. I think these lunatics shouldn't be named or have their mugshots available, a lot of them just do it to be "famous". I don't like people talking or texting while they're driving but I don't want to outlaw all cellphones but I would like to see it par with a DUI. What is your plan?

I don't have a plan and I'm not blaming the object. I'm lamenting the fact that we cannot even have a discussion about gun ownership in the United States because the NRA and its minions will destroy the career of any politician that dares broach the subject. I think that we probably should take a look at the high capacity magazines that have no purpose other than to shoot people efficiently. Maybe I'm wrong, but we can't even discuss it on a national level and that's a shame.

ButtMan wrote:
There probably is a valid argument that this guy would have not been in possession of the "high capacity magazines" if they were not legally sold.
But there is another equally valid argument. And that one would argue that, after learning about his ability to booby trap his apartment with explosives, that even if he could not have obtained "high capacity magazines" he probably would just used a bomb and produced an equal number of victims or maybe even more.
If "high capacity magazines" had been outlawed before 1992 it would not have prevented McVeigh from blowing up the Murrah Building. They woulda had to also outlaw Ryder trucks and fertilizer and diesel fuel.

And I guarantee you that outlawing "high capacity magazines" would not deter the gangbangers and drug dealers from having them cause they would have them regardless if they can't be had legally.

salinsky wrote:

ButtMan wrote:
There probably is a valid argument that this guy would have not been in possession of the "high capacity magazines" if they were not legally sold.
But there is another equally valid argument. And that one would argue that, after learning about his ability to booby trap his apartment with explosives, that even if he could not have obtained "high capacity magazines" he probably would just used a bomb and produced an equal number of victims or maybe even more.
If "high capacity magazines" had been outlawed before 1992 it would not have prevented McVeigh from blowing up the Murrah Building. They woulda had to also outlaw Ryder trucks and fertilizer and diesel fuel.

And I guarantee you that outlawing "high capacity magazines" would not deter the gangbangers and drug dealers from having them cause they would have them regardless if they can't be had legally.

I just wish we had the ability to debate these issues seriously on a national level, but the NRA has poisoned the well to such an extent, it's not possible. The dude had a drum style magazine that holds 100 rounds. That's insane in my opinion, and certainly not what the founding fathers envisioned.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

It's a proven fact to all but the willfully ignorant that the Federal building was a government black op.....sheesh.

ButtMan wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

It's a proven fact to all but the willfully ignorant that the Federal building was a government black op.....sheesh.

If the government blew up the Murrah Building and slaughtered all those children in that nursery and the hundreds of other government workers who were killed, then there is nothing you and Alex Jones and a handful of tinfoilers listening to talk radio are ever going to do to stop them. That would mean our whole country is nothing but a sick twisted joke and we're all totally fucked and better get the hell out of here and move to the South Pole.
And if that was the case in 1995 when that happened it was very likely the case for a long time before that including when god himself, Ronald Reagan, was also a part of the evil conspiracy and the conservatives here aint never gonna accept that god was evil so you and Alex Jones have a tough row to hoe trying to win fellow travelers and that brings me back to the original point that nothing will ever be done to challenge it because if all this is true we're all fucked anyway and I might as well just forget about it and watch american idol since there aint a goddamn thing me or you or anybody else can do to stop it.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Now you are catching on Bob...we have a criminal government that is unaccountable to the people and using Hollywood like scripts to blur reality, aka Psyop to make women and girly men pizz their pants and be for government protection...at the cost of Freedom to do anything but pay taxes and die early...

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Just like Gulf of Tonkin etc.... People just don't care as long as they can watch football and drink.

salinsky wrote:
salinsky - It's insane that this country cannot have a rational conversation regarding guns.
LOL

Markle wrote:Personally, I think a rational, national discussion on race would be far more important and accomplish far more. But that's just me.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Once this twerp is convicted of multiple capital murders and finally sentenced to death, I hope Colorado holds him in solitary confinement with no contact with anyone but his legal representation. No TV, no newspapers, no books, minimal food--heck I would take away his clock and his calendar, too. All he needs to know is the sun rises and falls outside his cell's small window. He can keep count of the days in his head until his lethal injection occurs, whenever that may be.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Fixated on me huh Granny ?...yeah most women get that way. Wish I could bottle whatever it is i got and sell it.

Chrissy8 wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Fixated on me huh Granny ?...yeah most women get that way. Wish I could bottle whatever it is i got and sell it.

Teo, If I ever became single. I'd snatch you up in a hot second(if I could).

and I'd be lucky to be locked up with you with you with your karaoki machine