Are jurors really that stupid?

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was. We weren't allowed to shoot unarmed people just because you got in a tussle w/ them.

Joanimaroni wrote:And.....sometimes the people not on the jury have more information than the jury is allowed to hear. He has a long criminal history with several assaults on officers, robbery, burglary, along with weapon and drug charges. He was armed.

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Dreamsglore wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:And.....sometimes the people not on the jury have more information than the jury is allowed to hear. He has a long criminal history with several assaults on officers, robbery, burglary, along with weapon and drug charges. He was armed.

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Well, that is true about the info. and the jury but police tend to treat you bad especially when they find out you have a record.You have to wonder how many assaults were provoked by the bad treatment of the police. Things have changed greatly since I was a LEO. We never had tasers and were taught only to use as much force as necessary to subdue a suspect. We didn't sic dogs on people and hog tie them or beat them into submission. Traffic stops were reinforced w/ the premise these were citizens and courteousness was a must.We'd get in trouble if a citizen complained we were rude.

Chrissy wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:And.....sometimes the people not on the jury have more information than the jury is allowed to hear. He has a long criminal history with several assaults on officers, robbery, burglary, along with weapon and drug charges. He was armed.

http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml/xml_searchbm.asp?ulname=+Donson&ufname=Robert&ucasetype2=&ucase=&ucit=&ufromdate=&daterange=0&ucasetype=&uagencynbr=&uagencytype=

Well, that is true about the info. and the jury but police tend to treat you bad especially when they find out you have a record.You have to wonder how many assaults were provoked by the bad treatment of the police. Things have changed greatly since I was a LEO. We never had tasers and were taught only to use as much force as necessary to subdue a suspect. We didn't sic dogs on people and hog tie them or beat them into submission. Traffic stops were reinforced w/ the premise these were citizens and courteousness was a must.We'd get in trouble if a citizen complained we were rude.

I knew I smelled something in the room.


didnt I see you say you ran someone over today so you have sympathy for people who run children over. God you cant even drive. your toenails must have gotten in the way.

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was. We weren't allowed to shoot unarmed people just because you got in a tussle w/ them.

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

Chrissy wrote:

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

she doesnt think for herself. shes a zombie. thats why she has gray stuff coming out of her feet and her toenails are falling off. shes a corpse.

Dreamsglore wrote:

I saw the video of the cop who was found not guilty so my opinion is based on that. I was not privvy to the info. at this trial so I can't say the jury was wrong.Big difference,Einstein.

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

I saw the video of the cop who was found not guilty so my opinion is based on that. I was not privvy to the info. at this trial so I can't say the jury was wrong.Big difference,Einstein.

I've been reading your posts a long time. I think the opinions you have and the positions you take derive from your need to conform to your version of political correctness. And I'm not singling you out by any means. There are others here who do the same thing. And the same thing is true of the brainwashed right-wingers. You're pretty much carbon copies of each other with the only difference being which of the two labels of political correctness you latch onto.

People form their opinions based on experiences. At least mine are. I lean to the left because those are my experiences. I certainly have some center right opinions that don't have anything to do w/ political correctness. There is truth to the saying "we are the sun total of our experiences". I have been on both sides of the police fence so my opinion is based on that. There are far too many bad cops in our society.More so than the good guys unfortunately. I don't defend bad behavior on either side but I've seen enough to know that just because you're a cop doesn't mean your a good one. People tend to believe that and give bad one's a pass. This is their mistake.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

she doesnt think for herself. shes a zombie. thats why she has gray stuff coming out of her feet and her toenails are falling off. shes a corpse.

And posts like this is why you have solidified yourself as a bonafide idiot.

Chrissy wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

she doesnt think for herself. shes a zombie. thats why she has gray stuff coming out of her feet and her toenails are falling off. shes a corpse.

And posts like this is why you have solidified yourself as a bonafide idiot.

you dont think for yourself. its apparent.

I havnt certified myself as an idiot. perhaps I have to idiots. but mostly i can carry on a deep conversation about many things. My IQ is above average even if you or many of the other posters dont think it. you base your assumptions of me on faulty guesses.

your hatred for me is something you have to deal with, because there is a underlying reason you hate me so much. and it has nothing to do with "me" .

Here's a little secret for you to chew on. I dont hate you. I pity you. and somtimes I feel bad for giving you such a hard time.

This above ^^^ is the reason I have chosen to deal with you with humor most of the time. sometimes you just piss me off because of your constant humilation attacks and I use what I know gets your goat to get to you.

other than that, I really dont even recall why you hate me so much. I just dont place as much value in it as you and some others to hold onto things for so long.

so have a good day. if its possible for you. I wish you the best. really.

btw, it was given to me a pic of you at work. congrats!

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

she doesnt think for herself. shes a zombie. thats why she has gray stuff coming out of her feet and her toenails are falling off. shes a corpse.

And posts like this is why you have solidified yourself as a bonafide idiot.

you dont think for yourself. its apparent.

I havnt certified myself as an idiot. perhaps I have to idiots. but mostly i can carry on a deep conversation about many things. My IQ is above average even if you or many of the other posters dont think it. you base your assumptions of me on faulty guesses.

your hatred for me is something you have to deal with, because there is a underlying reason you hate me so much. and it has nothing to do with "me" .

Here's a little secret for you to chew on. I dont hate you. I pity you. and somtimes I feel bad for giving you such a hard time.

This above ^^^ is the reason I have chosen to deal with you with humor most of the time. sometimes you just piss me off because of your constant humilation attacks and I use what I know gets your goat to get to you.

other than that, I really dont even recall why you hate me so much. I just dont place as much value in it as you and some others to hold onto things for so long.

so have a good day. if its possible for you. I wish you the best. really.

btw, it was given to me a pic of you at work. congrats!

You came on this thread attacking me and as usual you play the victim. Why I don't like you has everything to do w/ you. You're a raging alcoholic and are mentally and emotionally unstable at times but that's my opinion based on my experiences w/ people like you. You're very vindictive and can't be trusted. The alcohol may play a part in your behavior but even when you're sober you're inappropriate.If you're smart then you've failed to show it by some of the things you say. I think more so you have a personality disorder which can't be fixed. Oh and let's not forget the immaturity you display for a middle age woman as evidenced by posting a picture of some unknown woman saying it's me. You've gone off the rails more times than I can count over nothing and always try to harm people. So it is very much about you whether you delude yourself or not.

Chrissy wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

Bob wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:Apparently, the jury has more facts then we do and saw it for what it was.

BUT, in your thread entitled "Pensacola cop found not guilty" you say...

"We have some serious problems in this area."

So whenever we read a couple of sentences about what happened in a trial,
we can assume the juries are always wrong if the cop is found not guilty,
but assume the juries are always right when the suspect is found not guilty.
Good lord, that's the most inconsistent thing I ever heard of.

she doesnt think for herself. shes a zombie. thats why she has gray stuff coming out of her feet and her toenails are falling off. shes a corpse.

And posts like this is why you have solidified yourself as a bonafide idiot.

you dont think for yourself. its apparent.

I havnt certified myself as an idiot. perhaps I have to idiots. but mostly i can carry on a deep conversation about many things. My IQ is above average even if you or many of the other posters dont think it. you base your assumptions of me on faulty guesses.

your hatred for me is something you have to deal with, because there is a underlying reason you hate me so much. and it has nothing to do with "me" .

Here's a little secret for you to chew on. I dont hate you. I pity you. and somtimes I feel bad for giving you such a hard time.

This above ^^^ is the reason I have chosen to deal with you with humor most of the time. sometimes you just piss me off because of your constant humilation attacks and I use what I know gets your goat to get to you.

other than that, I really dont even recall why you hate me so much. I just dont place as much value in it as you and some others to hold onto things for so long.

so have a good day. if its possible for you. I wish you the best. really.

btw, it was given to me a pic of you at work. congrats!

You came on this thread attacking me and as usual you play the victim. Why I don't like you has everything to do w/ you. You're a raging alcoholic and are mentally and emotionally unstable at times but that's my opinion based on my experiences w/ people like you. You're very vindictive and can't be trusted. The alcohol may play a part in your behavior but even when you're sober you're inappropriate.If you're smart then you've failed to show it by some of the things you say. I think more so you have a personality disorder which can't be fixed. Oh and let's not forget the immaturity you display for a middle age woman as evidenced by posting a picture of some unknown woman saying it's me. You've gone off the rails more times than I can count over nothing and always try to harm people. So it is very much about you whether you delude yourself or not.