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Flying the rebel flag on your battered pickup ... why?

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Sal
TEOTWAWKI
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Floridatexan
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2seaoat
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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://pensacolatopanamacityrealestate.com/real-estate-locations/pensacola/

Flying the rebel flag on your battered pickup ... why? - Page 2 Five_flags

Pensacola has always been the "City of Five Flags", and that includes a Confederate flag...just not the battle flag that is associated with the civil rights movement of the '60's. That one is reserved for ignorant people who have no other reason to feel good about themselves.

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Guest

Funny it's so easy to instigate with wordslinger. He has his right to expression so long as it doesn't offend him.

Sal you don't have to agree with their right to act stupid, but you also have no right to be offended.

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Guest

by Wordslinger Today at 2:08 pm
PkrBum wrote:
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I find progressive/socialist/communists offensive. How about we start an open season on leftists?
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Bring it on booby. It's clear you can't overcome them with rationale.
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Well word how would you defend yourself? You are against gun ownership and if you now say you have guns,
That makes you a huge hypocrite

Sal

Sal

Obamasucks wrote:
Sal you don't have to agree with their right to act stupid, but you also have no right to be offended.

I don't have the right to be offended??

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

Sal

Sal

Obamasucks wrote:
Well word how would you defend yourself? You are against gun ownership and if you now say you have guns,
That makes you a huge hypocrite

I've never seen Wordslinger claim to be "against gun ownership".

I could be wrong, but I believe that he's posted that he owns guns.

No, he and I aren't "against gun ownership", and we're not "hypocrites".

What we are against is metal defectives such as yourself owning whatever kind of death machine your delusions dictate you should have on any given day.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Floridatexan wrote:
http://pensacolatopanamacityrealestate.com/real-estate-locations/pensacola/

Flying the rebel flag on your battered pickup ... why? - Page 2 Five_flags

Pensacola has always been the "City of Five Flags", and that includes a Confederate flag...just not the battle flag that is associated with the civil rights movement of the '60's.  That one is reserved for ignorant people who have no other reason to feel good about themselves.

But you just don't understand, tex. Having anything to do with the Confederacy in that City of Five Flags thing is the proof positive that our city and all it's residents always have been and still are nothing but racists who are in favor of bringing back slavery. There is no other explanation for it. And if you don't believe me, just ask Seaoat. lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

And by the way, tex. I run into your African American friend all the time at yard sales and at the flea market. He's a really nice guy.

Ask him about selling the stainless steel trash can at T&W a week ago and see if he remembers the buyer who got him down from $25 to $10 on it. That was me. lol
Although I know he was probably laughing his ass off that the buyer thought he got the best of him because he probably bought the thing at a yard sale for a dollar. Not to mention that I'm sitting here with a trash can I don't need and just bought it because it was stainless steel. lol

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:our city and all it's residents always have been and still are nothing but racists who are in favor of bringing back slavery.

Did anyone ever think differently regarding Pcola?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Salinsky wrote:
Bob wrote:our city and all it's residents always have been and still are nothing but racists who are in favor of bringing back slavery.

Did anyone ever think differently regarding Pcola?

See, tex. This is what you've allied yourself with. lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

This is the place Sal comes from and the place he's said he loves so much.

http://thevillevoice.com/2014/01/30/racism-not-just-alive-but-thriving-in-louisville/

So of course this makes Sal and every other Louisvillian a racist. lol

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:This is the place Sal comes from and the place he's said he loves so much.

http://thevillevoice.com/2014/01/30/racism-not-just-alive-but-thriving-in-louisville/

So of course this makes Sal and every other Louisvillian a racist.  lol

No denying that, Bob.

I really didn't realize just how segregated Louisville is until I moved away.

They have a long way to go on race relations.

I think the seminal moment for me on race came when I was eleven or twelve.

We lived in an upper middle class, exclusively white neighborhood, and my paternal grandfather had come to live with us.

A wealthy African-American man (he had founded and run several of the first "black radio stations" in Louisville) and his family moved in next door.

I'll never forget sitting at the dinner table, and my grandfather opining that it might not be such a good idea living next to a "n-word" because "they like to take what's not theirs", and my father responding "that n-word could buy and sell your old ass three times over, so shut your trap.".

I think my jaw must've hit the table.

Anyway, he was a super nice man, and I ended up cutting his lawn for what was then a good price.

I remember him pulling into the driveway in his shiny new Benz, and pulling out a roll of bills the size of his fist to pay me.

In retrospect, I think he probably really enjoyed having a white boy cutting his lawn in the late 70s.

Yeah, Louisville has had a history of problems with race, and it continues to this day.

They're just not proud of it like P'coleans.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

Wordslinger wrote: ....

Explain it to me ....[/b]

Why?

Because it's a slap in the face to sniveling whining politically-correct progressives. (If the shoe fits .....)

You can't just spit on people and expect them to just sit back & take it.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Salinsky wrote:

I'll never forget sitting at the dinner table, and my grandfather opining that it might not be such a good idea living next to a "n-word" because "they like to take what's not theirs", and my father responding "that n-word could buy and sell your old ass three times over, so shut your trap.".

I think my jaw must've hit the table.

Anyway, he was a super nice man, and I ended up cutting his lawn for what was then a good price.

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Yeah, Louisville has had a history of problems with race, and it continues to this day.

They're just not proud of it like P'coleans.[/font]

Funny you mention that,  Sal.  Because it mirrors my own experience as a "P'colean".  

My grandfather was a racist like your grandfather.  But then his son left that really racist part of North Carolina shortly after the war and came here to Pcola for a job.   And two of my Dad's brothers followed that same path and came here for a job at the same manufacturing plant.
My Dad and my uncles were a different generation from their father and had different ideas than he did.  
And all that came to a climax when the neighborhood my Dad bought his home and raised me in quickly started to change.  And it resulted in Mom and Dad and me having a black family living next door to us from the time I was 13 years old.  And from that point my Mom and Dad and I all thought they were the best neighbors any of us have ever had.  
The black father came from VERY rural south Alabama and got a good career working in civil service here and raised children who became a doctor,  a dentist,  and a daughter who became a high up official in the IRS regional office in Jacksonville.  
The two families learned to love each other.  They were at my Mom's funeral and at my Dad's funeral,  and I will be at both of their funerals (which will likely happen before long).  

And whodatunkit,  this all happened in that horrible backwards racist place called P'Cola.  Where of course EVERYBODY still has all the same ideas as his grandfather.  Unlike Louisville which produced you.



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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

toilet paper NOT heritage......

Flying the rebel flag on your battered pickup ... why? - Page 2 170815flag

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Obamasucks wrote:by Wordslinger Today at 2:08 pm
PkrBum wrote:
“
I find progressive/socialist/communists offensive. How about we start an open season on leftists?
”


Bring it on booby. It's clear you can't overcome them with rationale.
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Well word how would you defend yourself? You are against gun ownership and if you now say you have guns,
That makes you a huge hypocrite

It seems you continue to have difficulty with reality.  I've never said I was against gun ownership -- not when the owner is rational, has no mental conditions, and no criminal record.  I have a carry license and several firearms.  I reload, I used to shoot skeet competitively, and have had a number of wildcat rifles all of which make any assault rifle look like a piece of shit.    I still shoot dove and pheasant.  I'm dead set against assault rifles and large magazines on anything.  If you can't hit what you're shooting at with one or two rounds you haven't the mentality and control  necessary to own a firearm.  I don't think firearms should be registered, but I do believe gun owners should be tested and licensed to carry and use a firearm the same way a driver's license is earned.  Idiots like you, who are against even common sense laws that would inhibit the acquisition of a firearm by a wife abuser, a drunk, a drug addict or someone being treated or medicated for emotional or psychological problems, share the guilt for the theater and school shootings that take place almost weekly now.  Former soldiers with PTSD -- like you -- should not have access to firearms.  People like you simply can't be trusted.  "Life sucks and then you die," remember?  You want to give that whacked out guy a firearm to play with?  

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

One other thing, Sal, which will be my own little version of a personal experience like you shared with us.

On the night of the 2008 election, after the results had come in enough for us to know who the winner was, I sat on the front porch of my Mom and Dad's home talking to that same next door neighbor. Since he's in his early 90's now that would have made him be I guess about 85 at the time.

I told him I could not imagine in my wildest dreams what it would be like to go from experiencing what his life must have been like as a youth in rural Alabama that long ago to now actually seeing a black man be elected to the highest position in the country.
His reaction was no words, just a couple of tears in his eyes.
Obviously he knew there was no way for him to even begin to try to convey to me what that would be like.
I'll remember that moment as long as I live.




Wordslinger

Wordslinger

TEOTWAWKI wrote:toilet paper NOT heritage......

Flying the rebel flag on your battered pickup ... why? - Page 2 170815flag


Thank you for bringing these photos to our attention. Wiping asses, by the way, may be the very best use for ALL flags! Consider the causes that drove the two subjects in your photos to make their photographic statement. But you have given me an idea. I'm going to have some toilet paper printed up with rebel flags. Hell, I may even go into business selling such a line!

Anyone out there know where I can buy rebel flag toilet paper? Nazi flag toilet paper? Markle, can you sell me some of yours?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

I would like to place an order for your Hillary paper.....

2seaoat



Pensacola has always been the "City of Five Flags"

That simply is not true.  At some date the city became the city of five flags and not one person has given that date.  The confederate battle flag was taken down in 2000 and replaced with other versions of the confederate flag.....but when did the battle flag get put up, and when did the city of five flags become a reference to the City of Pensacola.

If I asked a person for a date when something began......always is not an answer.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

2seaoat wrote:Pensacola has always been the "City of Five Flags"

That simply is not true.  At some date the city became the city of five flags and not one person has given that date. 

You know for somebody who wants to be the real-life version of the comedic character known as Professor Irwin Corey - The World's Leading Authority,  you sure don't have the common sense Corey had (the real one I mean).

Because if you had any common sense,  you would of course know that Pensacola became The City of Five Flags at the point in time when the fifth nation/dictatorship/monarchy/authority/whatever got control of Pensacola.  That added the fifth and final flag.

All this horseshit you're asking about is just silliness.

2seaoat



Cannot answer the question.  Attack the messenger, but you do not know when Pensacola first started referencing the five flags.....I thought so.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

None of the Florida Panhandle's major cities lie farther west than Pensacola, which is frequently called the 'City of Five Flags'. This is because five different federal governments have presided over the city since it was established as the United States' first European settlement in 1559.

http://www.world-guides.com/north-america/usa/florida/pensacola/pensacola_history.html

For the goggley challenged

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

http://advancepensacola.com/the-city-of-five-flags/

Our history helps define Pensacola. It doesn’t make us who we are, but it demonstrates the challenges people have faced here since 1559. We should be proud of our history and our ability to deal with the turmoil created by five different governments. We are unique in many ways. As the oldest European settlement in America, we have a long and rich history. This should be reflected in the motto of our city. This motto should be codified so that the governing body has a say in the process.

On Tuesday, I filed a draft ordinance amendment with the Clerk’s office to designate the official motto of the City of Pensacola as “The City of Five Flags.” This amendment will formally recognize our history and our resilience in the face of many changes in leadership. Including our motto in the code of ordinances will protect our heritage and image from being changed at the whim of the executive branch and will ensure that the city council retains the ability to participate in the selection and/or modification of the motto of our great city.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Let's do this, seaoat. Let's take a look at P'cola's own version of wikipedia.
And let's go to the page on Pensapedia for "The City of Five Flags"...

http://www.pensapedia.com/wiki/City_of_Five_Flags

Right from the get-go it emphasizes what I just did. It's all about being under multiple government jurisdictions over it's lifetime. And in our case, five different jurisdictions. There is no mention of when that slogan "The City of Five Flags" began to appear. Because it doesn't matter when that happened, it matters when the goddamn thing it's celebrating happened.

But I'll take a stab at it. I'm guessing it happened shortly after WW2. Because that's when they first really started to think up creative shit to lure the tourists. And it's also when they dreamed up the fiesta and combined the two and called it "The Fiesta of Five Flags".

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

http://studeri.org/2015/03/5-things-to-keep-in-mind-about-pensacolas-five-flags/

Pensacola has long been known as the “City of Five Flags,” a reference to the five governments whose flags have flown over its soil: Spain, France, the United Kingdom, the Confederate States of America and the United States of America.

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