Technology is our problem. A editorial by me

*Secret_Angel* wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:First, The Amish do not reject technology. They use all technological advances that man has come to use. That is up until the early 20th century when the Amish froze their lifestyle in time. They use the horse and all implements designed to be powered by that noble beast of burden, the horse. And as much as we may admire their self-sufficiency, that too is being eroded away as their youth want more of this technology we take for granted. Let me say, the Amish and Mennonite people use such self restraint in their day to day living, they are the only group of people that can buy a farm for $500,000 and pay cash for it.
As to the question, "What will things look like in the 24th century." We will have further development of the computers designing computers. As we work towards computers being autonomous we may one day awake to having completed that goal and allowed the beast to develop the perfect beast that sees it's own growth as more important than our petty needs. All that would be required is to shut down the human's power grids. That is why there should always be a plug to unplug away from the mainframe.
We do have a growing but innocent asset. That is the children of the world. Because of computers and it magical draw to children, all children in all countries essentially speak the same language when using a keyboard. Also, a computer can only function within the parameters that it has been programed to understand. Humans however are capable of taking a problem they've never seen or experienced and solve it.

I must ask this before I jump off this topic for a bit.

How many people do you think will populate this planet in the 24th century?

Slicef18 wrote:

*Secret_Angel* wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:First, The Amish do not reject technology. They use all technological advances that man has come to use. That is up until the early 20th century when the Amish froze their lifestyle in time. They use the horse and all implements designed to be powered by that noble beast of burden, the horse. And as much as we may admire their self-sufficiency, that too is being eroded away as their youth want more of this technology we take for granted. Let me say, the Amish and Mennonite people use such self restraint in their day to day living, they are the only group of people that can buy a farm for $500,000 and pay cash for it.
As to the question, "What will things look like in the 24th century." We will have further development of the computers designing computers. As we work towards computers being autonomous we may one day awake to having completed that goal and allowed the beast to develop the perfect beast that sees it's own growth as more important than our petty needs. All that would be required is to shut down the human's power grids. That is why there should always be a plug to unplug away from the mainframe.
We do have a growing but innocent asset. That is the children of the world. Because of computers and it magical draw to children, all children in all countries essentially speak the same language when using a keyboard. Also, a computer can only function within the parameters that it has been programed to understand. Humans however are capable of taking a problem they've never seen or experienced and solve it.

I must ask this before I jump off this topic for a bit.

How many people do you think will populate this planet in the 24th century?

What a great question. Thank you.
Earths current population is 7 billion people. That is 2 billion more than the planet can sustain if everyone on the planet enjoyed Americas standard of living. The maximum sustainable population density of earth is estimated to be between 12 and 14 billion people. As for the 24th century, there are so many possibilities and variables it makes that crystal ball very cloudy. Things like a successful space travel program. Synthetic food generation would allow for the elimination of energy consuming animals are just a couple of variables. Also having a population density of 14 billion people would allow any new untreatable disease a rapid and deadly infection of the population to decimate the worlds population.

VectorMan wrote:I'm a big sci-fi fan. There are all sorts of visions of what the future may look like.

I love technology. I'm amazed that you can carry around a 128gb jump drive in your pocket. Plug into an HDTV and share you photos and videos on your big screen. Anyone with a smart phone? Hell, that's a desk top computer in your pocket.

Then you have the criminal types that exploit tech to rip people off. Anyone got an e-mail saying you inherited money lately?

*Secret_Angel* wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm a big sci-fi fan. There are all sorts of visions of what the future may look like.

I love technology. I'm amazed that you can carry around a 128gb jump drive in your pocket. Plug into an HDTV and share you photos and videos on your big screen. Anyone with a smart phone? Hell, that's a desk top computer in your pocket.

Then you have the criminal types that exploit tech to rip people off. Anyone got an e-mail saying you inherited money lately?

You know I really like you. I would love to hear your thoughts on what you think it might be in the 24th century.

and no, I didnt get that email, even the spammers know I come from a poor family and wouldnt fall for it lol

VectorMan wrote:

*Secret_Angel* wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm a big sci-fi fan. There are all sorts of visions of what the future may look like.

I love technology. I'm amazed that you can carry around a 128gb jump drive in your pocket. Plug into an HDTV and share you photos and videos on your big screen. Anyone with a smart phone? Hell, that's a desk top computer in your pocket.

Then you have the criminal types that exploit tech to rip people off. Anyone got an e-mail saying you inherited money lately?

You know I really like you. I would love to hear your thoughts on what you think it might be in the 24th century.

and no, I didnt get that email, even the spammers know I come from a poor family and wouldnt fall for it lol

Well, Star Trek The Next Generation takes place in the 24th century. It would be great if Earth was like that then. No poverty and no one needs for anything. I'm not sure how that would all come about, but I'd say it's something worth striving for.

OMG ,that could mean complete government control.

Thank you, StarFleet Command!

Who knows?

ghandi wrote:Nobody on star trek is a muslim. Coincedence?

*Secret_Angel* wrote: Perhaps they were all non religious?

*Secret_Angel* wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:First, The Amish do not reject technology. They use all technological advances that man has come to use. That is up until the early 20th century when the Amish froze their lifestyle in time. They use the horse and all implements designed to be powered by that noble beast of burden, the horse. And as much as we may admire their self-sufficiency, that too is being eroded away as their youth want more of this technology we take for granted. Let me say, the Amish and Mennonite people use such self restraint in their day to day living, they are the only group of people that can buy a farm for $500,000 and pay cash for it.
As to the question, "What will things look like in the 24th century." We will have further development of the computers designing computers. As we work towards computers being autonomous we may one day awake to having completed that goal and allowed the beast to develop the perfect beast that sees it's own growth as more important than our petty needs. All that would be required is to shut down the human's power grids. That is why there should always be a plug to unplug away from the mainframe.
We do have a growing but innocent asset. That is the children of the world. Because of computers and it magical draw to children, all children in all countries essentially speak the same language when using a keyboard. Also, a computer can only function within the parameters that it has been programed to understand. Humans however are capable of taking a problem they've never seen or experienced and solve it.

I must ask this before I jump off this topic for a bit.

How many people do you think will populate this planet in the 24th century?

Lurch wrote:

*Secret_Angel* wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:First, The Amish do not reject technology. They use all technological advances that man has come to use. That is up until the early 20th century when the Amish froze their lifestyle in time. They use the horse and all implements designed to be powered by that noble beast of burden, the horse. And as much as we may admire their self-sufficiency, that too is being eroded away as their youth want more of this technology we take for granted. Let me say, the Amish and Mennonite people use such self restraint in their day to day living, they are the only group of people that can buy a farm for $500,000 and pay cash for it.
As to the question, "What will things look like in the 24th century." We will have further development of the computers designing computers. As we work towards computers being autonomous we may one day awake to having completed that goal and allowed the beast to develop the perfect beast that sees it's own growth as more important than our petty needs. All that would be required is to shut down the human's power grids. That is why there should always be a plug to unplug away from the mainframe.
We do have a growing but innocent asset. That is the children of the world. Because of computers and it magical draw to children, all children in all countries essentially speak the same language when using a keyboard. Also, a computer can only function within the parameters that it has been programed to understand. Humans however are capable of taking a problem they've never seen or experienced and solve it.

I must ask this before I jump off this topic for a bit.

How many people do you think will populate this planet in the 24th century?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdsbuJfMpr0

salinsky wrote:We will be the architects of our own demise, but not because of the advancement of technology. Rather it will be because of our desperate attempts to sustain an exploding population with 19th century technology that is unsustainable. We are beyond the tipping point with climate change, and an apocalypse is coming. One that is fueled by human hubris, greed, ignorance, folly and the willingness to deny the "facts on the ground" even when they are staring all of us in the face.