Seaoat asked me a question the other day. He asked "if an insane defendant has no intent to commit a crime, is he guilty of the crime?"

Bob wrote:Ariel Castro says he had no intent to commit a crime.  Let's take him at his word for that.  He says all the sex with the girls and women he had chained up was "consenual".  Let's take him at his word that he really believes that.   He says "I'm not a monster,  I'm just sick".  Let's take him at his word for that too.  That he is insane.

Well here's your answer,  seaoat.  If a court had ruled him legally insane,  and a court had decided because of that he had no intent to commit a crime and because of his insanity did not understand he was committing a crime,  the question is "should Castro be found guilty?"

My answer is "you've got to be kidding me".  And my second answer is that I would take him right from the courtroom and hang him from the public square and put it on television.

Bob wrote:Ariel Castro says he had no intent to commit a crime.  Let's take him at his word for that.  He says all the sex with the girls and women he had chained up was "consenual".  Let's take him at his word that he really believes that.   He says "I'm not a monster,  I'm just sick".  Let's take him at his word for that too.  That he is insane.

Well here's your answer,  seaoat.  If a court had ruled him legally insane,  and a court had decided because of that he had no intent to commit a crime and because of his insanity did not understand he was committing a crime,  the question is "should Castro be found guilty?"

My answer is "you've got to be kidding me".  And my second answer is that I would take him right from the courtroom and hang him from the public square and put it on television.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Bob wrote:Ariel Castro says he had no intent to commit a crime.  Let's take him at his word for that.  He says all the sex with the girls and women he had chained up was "consenual".  Let's take him at his word that he really believes that.   He says "I'm not a monster,  I'm just sick".  Let's take him at his word for that too.  That he is insane.

Well here's your answer,  seaoat.  If a court had ruled him legally insane,  and a court had decided because of that he had no intent to commit a crime and because of his insanity did not understand he was committing a crime,  the question is "should Castro be found guilty?"

My answer is "you've got to be kidding me".  And my second answer is that I would take him right from the courtroom and hang him from the public square and put it on television.

Listening to him made me sick to my stomach. He claims he has a sex addiction and as an addict he could not help himself. 


He then had the nerve to blame his victims for his actions....they wanted the sex. What a bastard.

Bob wrote:Ariel Castro says he had no intent to commit a crime.  Let's take him at his word for that.  He says all the sex with the girls and women he had chained up was "consenual".  Let's take him at his word that he really believes that.   He says "I'm not a monster,  I'm just sick".  Let's take him at his word for that too.  That he is insane.

Well here's your answer,  seaoat.  If a court had ruled him legally insane,  and a court had decided because of that he had no intent to commit a crime and because of his insanity did not understand he was committing a crime,  the question is "should Castro be found guilty?"

My answer is "you've got to be kidding me".  And my second answer is that I would take him right from the courtroom and hang him from the public square and put it on television.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:What does one do with a mad country ?

Damaged Eagle wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:What does one do with a mad country ?

People in warzones die and not all soldiers are model citizens.

If you are going to take a supposedly enlightened progressive liberal stance against war and believe we should not attack a country unless we are attacked then...

What gave the United States the right to attack Germany in World War I & II?

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw

Bob wrote:Ariel Castro says he had no intent to commit a crime.  Let's take him at his word for that.  He says all the sex with the girls and women he had chained up was "consenual".  Let's take him at his word that he really believes that.   He says "I'm not a monster,  I'm just sick".  Let's take him at his word for that too.  That he is insane.

Well here's your answer,  seaoat.  If a court had ruled him legally insane,  and a court had decided because of that he had no intent to commit a crime and because of his insanity did not understand he was committing a crime,  the question is "should Castro be found guilty?"

My answer is "you've got to be kidding me".  And my second answer is that I would take him right from the courtroom and hang him from the public square and put it on television.

2seaoat wrote:Bob,

How would you handle the five year old who had his brother push him off his bike, and he goes in the house and get's his father's gun, aims the gun at his brother, fires the gun, and kills his brother.   Did he have the requisite intent to be charged with murder in an adult court, or a juvenile court?

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Bob,

How would you handle the five year old who had his brother push him off his bike, and he goes in the house and get's his father's gun, aims the gun at his brother, fires the gun, and kills his brother.   Did he have the requisite intent to be charged with murder in an adult court, or a juvenile court?

I don't know what you do about a 5 year old who murders his own brother,  seaoat.  But I would be willing to bet that,  regardless of whatever you do,  that individual is going to be a menace to society.

I have another question about Ariel Castro,  however.  I cannot for the life of me understand why the taxpayers of Ohio are required to house and feed that animal and give him medical care for the rest of his life.
I would much rather he be shot to death out back of the courthouse and then just dumped into a hole in the ground.
I'm told it costs the taxpayers about $47,000 annually on average to keep this vermin in prison.  Hell I live on $22,000/year.  At least up until this year when I'm going to have to pay an additional $10-12,000 out of my pocket for an hour and a half facility charge in the Sacred Heart outpatient OR for a lousy lymph node biopsy (and that's just what the facility charge is going to cost me and not the cost of the doctors and other other other ancillaries).  But even still I can live for less than the cost of keeping that piece of shit alive. And while they're at it it's fine with me if they put the Sacred Heart Administrator in the hole with him.
I would MUCH prefer that he be put to sleep and that $47,000 be used to keep dogs alive at the animal shelter.

2seaoat wrote:There is a price to pay for being civilized.

Bob wrote:In the last two posts I'm being asked where is my outrage over putting people in jail over drugs and then I'm being accused of losing my humanity.

I'm outraged over putting people in jail over drugs.  I'm outraged that we never leared a goddamn thing from Prohibition.  No different than my outrage over how we never learned a goddamn thing from that Vietnam fiasco either.

But it really is interesting to have two people question MY humanity when the same two people who are doing that have not said one fucking word in this thread about the women who were victimized.  I guess what they were made to endure has nothing to do with humanity according to Sal and Seaoat.  The only "humanity" they're concerned about is the humanity done to the scum who made that happen.


And that outrages me more than drugs or Vietnam or anything.  

Mega dittoes

2seaoat wrote:Bob,
John Wayne Gacy partied and had a great time in prison with deviate sex, and pleasure while the kids he buried in his crawlspace never had that opportunity.

Bob wrote:

But it really is interesting to have two people question MY humanity when the same two people who are doing that have not said one fucking word in this thread about the women who were victimized.  I guess what they were made to endure has nothing to do with humanity according to Sal and Seaoat.  The only "humanity" they're concerned about is the humanity done to the scum who made that happen.
And that outrages me even more than putting people in jail over drugs and sending volunteers to useless wars.  I'd call all three the axis of outrage.

PkrBum wrote:"I think executing criminals (abortion) is barbaric, and I wish the state wouldn't do it in my name."

Well... let's devolve some more. Isn't the above the exact argument the pro-life groups use?