Our military is wasteful and dangerous to our freedom

nochain wrote:The military doesn't "waste  money" or occupy bases elsewhere on their own volition, elected dunderheads give the orders. There have been many cases where military leaders wanted to do away with programs and bases but are denied by politicians who bow to their campaign donors. People keep electing the same idiots to office over and over because they are useful idiots - they bring home the bacon.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/laurence-m-vance/the-military-junta-is-seizing-control/


But it’s not just that the military wastes money. As Ron Paul said in an interview on Face the Nation: “Those troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies. I think it’s a danger to national defense, and we can save a lot of money cutting out the military expenditures that contribute nothing to our defense.”

What is so mind boggling about the United States maintaining an empire of troops and bases around the world and spending so much money on “defense” is that America has been blessed with natural national defense.

It’s called the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.


Oh that's right we have to support Zionist  squatters...

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Have those natural borders protected us from 9-11? The shoe bomber? The underwear bomber? The Jihadist chaplain currently awaiting trial from Fort Hood? How about those Tsarnev brothers?

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Have those natural borders protected us from 9-11? The shoe bomber? The underwear bomber? The Jihadist chaplain currently awaiting trial from Fort Hood? How about those Tsarnev brothers?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/laurence-m-vance/the-military-junta-is-seizing-control/


But it’s not just that the military wastes money. As Ron Paul said in an interview on Face the Nation: “Those troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies. I think it’s a danger to national defense, and we can save a lot of money cutting out the military expenditures that contribute nothing to our defense.”

What is so mind boggling about the United States maintaining an empire of troops and bases around the world and spending so much money on “defense” is that America has been blessed with natural national defense.

It’s called the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.


Oh that's right we have to support Zionist  squatters...

Have those natural borders protected us from 9-11? The shoe bomber? The underwear bomber? The Jihadist chaplain currently awaiting trial from Fort Hood? How about those Tsarnev brothers?

Since those were all false flag operations perpetrated and aided by our military and associated criminal elements in the MIC ....Yes the ocean worked fine.

 

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Have those natural borders protected us from 9-11? The shoe bomber? The underwear bomber? The Jihadist chaplain currently awaiting trial from Fort Hood? How about those Tsarnev brothers?

nochain wrote:

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Have those natural borders protected us from 9-11? The shoe bomber? The underwear bomber? The Jihadist chaplain currently awaiting trial from Fort Hood? How about those Tsarnev brothers?

Did you author another "how to" book based on personal experience Sally? Congratulations.

Bob wrote:My fellow Americans:

Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.

This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.

We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country.

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of the battlefield.

Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war -- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years -- I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.

--  Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower,  Supreme Allied Commander in Europe (WW2) charged with planning and carrying out the Allied assault on the coast of Normandy in June 1944