Predict the Zimmerman verdict

Captn Kaoz wrote:If it was manslaughter, the prosecution should have charged it that way.  Instead the prosecution overcharged the case and then failed to prove it.  When they felt they were not going to win,  they asked the judge to allow the jury to consider manslaughter.  This will probably ensure a conviction and allow the National Guard to standdown.

So much for justice.  

Snyderfish wrote:None of the above.  Hung jury.  

Bob wrote:

Come one now, the size of the jurors' dicks is not really relevant.  

2seaoat wrote: When they felt they were not going to win, they asked the judge to allow the jury to consider manslaughter. This will probably ensure a conviction and allow the National Guard to standdown.

So much for justice.

The misunderstanding of this process is simply amazing.  I do not know what the talking heads have been saying on TV, but there is a huge gap in most citizen's understanding of how jury instructions are given to a jury.  The lesser included offense of Manslaughter is not discretionary under the pattern instructions.   So much for justice.........scary lack of understanding that next week when the next person charged with Murder 2, the jury will get the exact same lesser included instruction.......this preconceived notion that there are going to be riots, that this is about the threat of racial violence, and the judge and the state are doing things differently in this case......I am concerned that folks just are unwilling to allow a fair trial.....they have pronounced this man innocent, and if the jury convicts......so much for justice.

Yella wrote:What has been accomplished here is that all the lawyers got to enjoy a nationwide feeding frenzy of free advertising. They all got to pose and posture themselves as they spat out lawyerish words and phrases.

The black folks will shout and rant about a riot but they know nearly all white folks on the street will be strapped and ready to dish out plenty of heat, so they will all go home.

2seaoat wrote:Seaoat, just STFU! I'm so sick of you trying to be a lawyer and telling actual lawyers they are wrong. Just the fact you said this case is not about race should tell everybody what a dilbert you are

A wannabee lawyer.....does that mean I can look for a kid coming back from the store and shoot him, or does that mean I should be quiet about your continued misunderstanding of legal concepts........but I get it......you can bootstrap utter confusion and assign it to a talking head, and when we discuss content, concepts, and facts.......well I become a dilbert because I wannabe a lawyer......this stuff is pretty simple......certainly a person with a graduate degree should understand the concepts, terms, and facts without the aid of Nancy Grace......but then again......maybe I should....what did you write STFU....I think I have reached that point that I will back off because your reaction is emotional.

2seaoat wrote:The black folks will shout and rant about a riot but they know nearly all white folks on the street will be strapped and ready to dish out plenty of heat, so they will all go home.


I do not understand that world......this is about a kid being killed.....the state has done an excellent job of showing that Zimmerman is a liar.  How can any self defense argument shift the burden when there is no credibility?  So if some folks riot, it will be about other issues than Martin not getting a fair trial.....but heck, I do not carry a firearm and only keep them at my home and business, and do not understand this assumption that Black people rioting necessitate that white people will be strapping.....I guess as Dreams has declared.....I must be a Dilbert.  I simply cannot conceptualize this idea that rioting black people are going to target white people.....yes ......riots have happened.......yes there have been race riots........but to correlate this trial with race riots......just call me Mr. Dilbert.