How do you feel about moderates?

You know people who dont buy everything from any side of the isle.

Some people would call them independants, but I cant buy that because being one of those limits your voting.

And one thing I have learned is its the other represenatives that make the laws and do the deeds, a President is just a figure head puppet.

IMHO of coarse

Chrissy8 wrote:You know people who dont buy everything from any side of the isle.

Some people would call them independants, but I cant buy that because being one of those limits your voting.

And one thing I have learned is its the other represenatives that make the laws and do the deeds, a President is just a figure head puppet.

IMHO of coarse

As an registered independent Chrissy, I can tell you that your are only limited in your voting during the primary election, in the general you have an open ballot as you are well aware.The limits for an independent during the primary are the same as they are for either democrats or republicans. The major parties of course have more choices, but it all comes down to general election at a later date.

Honestly, I feel moderates are people who are simply not obsessed by politics like many of us - who are driven to debate online - are. Before I really got into politics, I probably would have fallen into the "moderate" demographic. Now, on the other hand...

I'm registered as Independent.
I have both liberal and conservative views.
And right now I can say I am NOT too pleased with one of our mayoral candidates.

Is that your cat?

She's one of them.

Azadeh is the coolest person I have ever chatted with...of all time!!!

Admin wrote:Azadeh is the coolest person I have ever chatted with...of all time!!!

She's pretty cool now that we have put away our differences.

As far as registering as a independant, I wont because I want to be able to vote in the primaries.

I think that people shouldnt have to register as a particular party.

Chrissy8 wrote:

Admin wrote:Azadeh is the coolest person I have ever chatted with...of all time!!!

She's pretty cool now that we have put away our differences.

As far as registering as a independant, I wont because I want to be able to vote in the primaries.

I think that people shouldnt have to register as a particular party.

Chrissy I was visiting my brother in Jackson MS no long ago and we got on the subject of voting. I told him that my voter registration card indicates that I am registered as an independent. He said that in MS voter registration does not indicate which party one is affiliated with. When he showed me his card I could not find any party affiliation on it anywhere. I was shocked by that.

I think independents are just fine. I was only one for a year or two back in the early 90's though. I was a republican for 20 years before that. Then when I realized I couldn't vote in any primaries and since I grew to like Bill Clinton so much I decided I might just be a democrat and I registered as one. I've never regretted it, even though I now realize Clinton wasn't always right like with Nafta and things like that. I can still usually see two sides of nearly every issue, whether it seems like that to some people or not. It's just that I nearly always think one side is better than the other.
I can't see two sides on the health care issue though because I think medical care should be free for everyone. I think that's just a human rights issue.

I think my real question about this whole forum is why is boards hiding his face when we've all seen him in his streaming videos. You're a good looking young man there boards. You don't have to hide it.

RetiredAF wrote:

Chrissy8 wrote:

Admin wrote:Azadeh is the coolest person I have ever chatted with...of all time!!!

She's pretty cool now that we have put away our differences.

As far as registering as a independant, I wont because I want to be able to vote in the primaries.

I think that people shouldnt have to register as a particular party.

Chrissy I was visiting my brother in Jackson MS no long ago and we got on the subject of voting. I told him that my voter registration card indicates that I am registered as an independent. He said that in MS voter registration does not indicate which party one is affiliated with. When he showed me his card I could not find any party affiliation on it anywhere. I was shocked by that.

really. thats cool. why should people have to affiliate with a particular party to be able to vote? We should just be able to register and vote. I think the GOV would be scared of that idea because they wouldnt be able to pander as much.

Chrissy8 wrote:
She's pretty cool now that we have put away our differences.

As far as registering as a independant, I wont because I want to be able to vote in the primaries.

I think that people shouldnt have to register as a particular party.

I agree, I am an Independent and there is hardly any candidates with that distinction come primary time. There are times I dont think my vote even counts. It is so discouraging to have to pick the lesser of two evils. IMHO

Florida is the only state I've had to state what party and I've lived in several states. I was a republican but changed during Bushie.

BTW I feel moderates with my hands.

I think moderates of any party are a good part of our hope for any kind of constructive progress or problem solving.
I heard a comment the other day: Partisanship is the opiate of the people, instead of "Religion is the opiate of the people as the communists used to say.
All this partisan bickering or downright warfare is a big distraction to everyone.
Some people are so distraught and angry about politics in general that both parties are down in the polls. Usually one goes up and the other goes down, now people are disgusted with both R's and D's.
I think the increased number of independent voters is making some of the good ol' boys kinda nervous and that's good.

othershoe1030 wrote:I think moderates of any party are a good part of our hope for any kind of constructive progress or problem solving.
I heard a comment the other day: Partisanship is the opiate of the people, instead of "Religion is the opiate of the people as the communists used to say.
All this partisan bickering or downright warfare is a big distraction to everyone.
Some people are so distraught and angry about politics in general that both parties are down in the polls. Usually one goes up and the other goes down, now people are disgusted with both R's and D's.
I think the increased number of independent voters is making some of the good ol' boys kinda nervous and that's good.

I agree, voting has become too partisan. People too many times vote for the party line instead of actually who they think can do the better job. It happens on both sides.

There just are not enough moderates who would give up voting in the primaries to push a candidate over into the run off. People are well versed in understanding this two party system and its become a problem and creating a situation where we are not getting the best people we can.

There needs to be a movement all over the country to stop haing your party affiliated with your voter registration and let all people vote ONCE for the candidate of their choice. I am sure some politicians will have a problem with this since they feel they have people trapped into voting party lines. And they do.

Chrissy8 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:I think moderates of any party are a good part of our hope for any kind of constructive progress or problem solving.
I heard a comment the other day: Partisanship is the opiate of the people, instead of "Religion is the opiate of the people as the communists used to say.
All this partisan bickering or downright warfare is a big distraction to everyone.
Some people are so distraught and angry about politics in general that both parties are down in the polls. Usually one goes up and the other goes down, now people are disgusted with both R's and D's.
I think the increased number of independent voters is making some of the good ol' boys kinda nervous and that's good.

I agree, voting has become too partisan. People too many times vote for the party line instead of actually who they think can do the better job. It happens on both sides.

There just are not enough moderates who would give up voting in the primaries to push a candidate over into the run off. People are well versed in understanding this two party system and its become a problem and creating a situation where we are not getting the best people we can.

There needs to be a movement all over the country to stop haing your party affiliated with your voter registration and let all people vote ONCE for the candidate of their choice. I am sure some politicians will have a problem with this since they feel they have people trapped into voting party lines. And they do.

To me it goes way beyond the voters, this ultra partisanship. There will always be a certain segment of the voting population that will vote their party no matter what. That's where the phrase 'yellow dog democrat' came from, It meant that they would vote for a yella dog if that's who the Democrats nominated
What bothers me more is the way the party leadership has such a strangle hole on the members of congress to the point that when one party includes measures the other party was advocating they won't vote for the bill even at that point because it has been proposed by the "opposition" even when both parties had agreed previously that it was a good idea. This is just nuts. There is too much of this 'keeping track of the points' kind of stuff going on instead of doing what might be best for the people.

I'ma change my party from Democrat to Independent in a couple of weeks. I need a new driver's license then (I'm bout to hit 21 y'all! Woo-hoo!) so I'll handle that at the same time.

penguinlove07 wrote:I'ma change my party from Democrat to Independent in a couple of weeks. I need a new driver's license then (I'm bout to hit 21 y'all! Woo-hoo!) so I'll handle that at the same time.

You've always been a very smart girl.

Wow, I cant beleive you're about to be 21. That makes you legal to flirt with in my eyes.

Maybe I'm taking your original question wrong Chrissy, but I sort of feel like you're calling me a moderate because I'm registered in a third party. Did I misunderstand you?? I a registered Libertarian, and I assure you girl, my beliefs and convictions are not moderate.

I acknowledge that some Republicans feel very strongly that I am wasting my conservative vote, but I have to vote for what and who I believe in. It's just the way I am. There is no hope for me to change. Har har.

It is quite possible there are more moderates in this country than ultra-left or ultra-right. An excellent Time magazine article several months ago discussed the silent majority (moderates). I have a sneaky feeling this upcoming election is going to be driven by the silent majority. Party extremists may get all the press since they make the most noise but their intransigence is going to be their undoing eventually. People are starting to realize congress and the senate can't continue to bicker and block important legislation like little misguided children.

I hope to see Pengy on here. I have not seen her on the PNJ forums in a long time.

Send her a PM. Maybe she has her options set such that she receives email notification of PM's (assuming she used a real email address when signing up here).

Most people who are independents are moderates, and there are more of them than any other designation anymore. I consider myself a moderate, but I give in when people call me a liberal or progressive, because don't object to those labels. I don't even object to being called a socialist, because socialism is moderation on the rest of the planet except in America.

Chrissy8 wrote:You know people who dont buy everything from any side of the isle.

Some people would call them independants, but I cant buy that because being one of those limits your voting.

And one thing I have learned is its the other represenatives that make the laws and do the deeds, a President is just a figure head puppet.

IMHO of coarse

I consider myself an independent and tend to be more conservative fiscally and more liberal socially.