whats the biggest thing obama has done that makes you proud to be an American?

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

othershoe1030 wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

wouldnt it be cheeper and less stress to just move to london? I gavee you the data and America is higher than europe for human development.

Yup. America is a developed country. Guess we're done then. I'm staying right here with the rest of the 63 plus million people who voted for Obama to have a second term. I'm not stressed. I'm excited at the prospect of what we can accomplish in his second term! Talk about validating Obama! Nothing like being re-elected to say "thank you" for all you've done for the country.

Chrissy wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

wouldnt it be cheeper and less stress to just move to london? I gavee you the data and America is higher than europe for human development.

Yup. America is a developed country. Guess we're done then. I'm staying right here with the rest of the 63 plus million people who voted for Obama to have a second term. I'm not stressed. I'm excited at the prospect of what we can accomplish in his second term! Talk about validating Obama! Nothing like being re-elected to say "thank you" for all you've done for the country.

By your logic then bush was validated and thanked for all he did for the country too. Im sure he was too, because obama not only kept most of his policies but expanded them.

Do you think obama will be able to give you faster downloads for internet service in his second term? I hope so. maybe he will make the economy so bad there wont be so many people trying to access the service at once.

He might build you a gov funded subway station that lets you go over to gulf breeze so you can stare at that really high water tower, or perhaps you need to go the other direction to the ball park?

I heard a rumor that obama was going to do a clean sweep of brownsville and pick up all the poor people and ship them off to college, because education really is what is keeping them down. It doesnt matter if they want to participate or not, its what they need and its what needed for the global community. I am sure they will do it.

I also heard that obama was going to make clean energy, even if it hurt us but you have to think of the collective good it will do in the long run for the little people. It just requires some multi million dollar loans from the gov to som buddies. no big deal. deficits mean nothing. Like people really pay thier bills anyway.

Also, that little thing about liberty. You kow liberty is just a word, it means so many didferent things to people. One persons liberty is another persons prison. so what.

Whats really important here is we become like europe with a monarch that has a really cool queen.

God save the Queen

next thing you know, you people will be wanting to make the weather like europe. Talk about europe envy.

I wonder why so many europeans came over here to this po dunk country?

Slicef18 wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

wouldnt it be cheeper and less stress to just move to london? I gavee you the data and America is higher than europe for human development.

Yup. America is a developed country. Guess we're done then. I'm staying right here with the rest of the 63 plus million people who voted for Obama to have a second term. I'm not stressed. I'm excited at the prospect of what we can accomplish in his second term! Talk about validating Obama! Nothing like being re-elected to say "thank you" for all you've done for the country.

By your logic then bush was validated and thanked for all he did for the country too. Im sure he was too, because obama not only kept most of his policies but expanded them.

Do you think obama will be able to give you faster downloads for internet service in his second term? I hope so. maybe he will make the economy so bad there wont be so many people trying to access the service at once.

He might build you a gov funded subway station that lets you go over to gulf breeze so you can stare at that really high water tower, or perhaps you need to go the other direction to the ball park?

I heard a rumor that obama was going to do a clean sweep of brownsville and pick up all the poor people and ship them off to college, because education really is what is keeping them down. It doesnt matter if they want to participate or not, its what they need and its what needed for the global community. I am sure they will do it.

I also heard that obama was going to make clean energy, even if it hurt us but you have to think of the collective good it will do in the long run for the little people. It just requires some multi million dollar loans from the gov to som buddies. no big deal. deficits mean nothing. Like people really pay thier bills anyway.

Also, that little thing about liberty. You kow liberty is just a word, it means so many didferent things to people. One persons liberty is another persons prison. so what.

Whats really important here is we become like europe with a monarch that has a really cool queen.

God save the Queen

next thing you know, you people will be wanting to make the weather like europe. Talk about europe envy.

I wonder why so many europeans came over here to this po dunk country?

That is one of the most light weight and sarcastic pieces of opinion I've seen on a blog site in quite a while.

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

What is the pattern of a large unfettered central govt that can edict and mandate? It's not like we've invented the wheel here. To believe some altruistic intent and ignore the encroachment is naive at best... a leap of blind faith equal to or surpassing any religion at worst... given recorded history.

Terms like self-evident, infringed, natural... are easier to ignore than misinterpret like "common good and general welfare".

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

What is the pattern of a large unfettered central govt that can edict and mandate? It's not like we've invented the wheel here. To believe some altruistic intent and ignore the encroachment is naive at best... a leap of blind faith equal to or surpassing any religion at worst... given recorded history.

Terms like self-evident, infringed, natural... are easier to ignore than misinterpret like "common good and general welfare".

Here we go again. I'll swear if there is one overarching characteristic of the right wing responses on this forum it is the ability to exaggerate to the point of absurdity the statements of the other side.

All I'm saying is that it is the government, the courts that defend our liberties not a function of having faith in our god given freedoms. There is a place for government. It does not have to be "large and unfettered" in order to function. That is the giant leap you seem to be taking. I'm saying it is the government that protects our rights that's all.

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

What is the pattern of a large unfettered central govt that can edict and mandate? It's not like we've invented the wheel here. To believe some altruistic intent and ignore the encroachment is naive at best... a leap of blind faith equal to or surpassing any religion at worst... given recorded history.

Terms like self-evident, infringed, natural... are easier to ignore than misinterpret like "common good and general welfare".

Here we go again. I'll swear if there is one overarching characteristic of the right wing responses on this forum it is the ability to exaggerate to the point of absurdity the statements of the other side.

All I'm saying is that it is the government, the courts that defend our liberties not a function of having faith in our god given freedoms. There is a place for government. It does not have to be "large and unfettered" in order to function. That is the giant leap you seem to be taking. I'm saying it is the government that protects our rights that's all.

Isn't that faith? and it might be argued that it is based on worse evidence than the easter bunny.

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

What is the pattern of a large unfettered central govt that can edict and mandate? It's not like we've invented the wheel here. To believe some altruistic intent and ignore the encroachment is naive at best... a leap of blind faith equal to or surpassing any religion at worst... given recorded history.

Terms like self-evident, infringed, natural... are easier to ignore than misinterpret like "common good and general welfare".

Here we go again. I'll swear if there is one overarching characteristic of the right wing responses on this forum it is the ability to exaggerate to the point of absurdity the statements of the other side.

All I'm saying is that it is the government, the courts that defend our liberties not a function of having faith in our god given freedoms. There is a place for government. It does not have to be "large and unfettered" in order to function. That is the giant leap you seem to be taking. I'm saying it is the government that protects our rights that's all.

Isn't that faith? and it might be argued that it is based on worse evidence than the easter bunny.

No it is not faith it is experience and observation. There is a judicial system set up to deal with situations according to the law. There are officers of the court who perform their duties according to the law. It has nothing to do with faith as that term is associated with a belief in things not seen. Thankfully we have an entire system in place that functions under the law (government). It is quite a practical set up. Ultimately it is based on the constitution and I don't think you'd put the Constitution and the Easter Bunny in the same category would you?

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

What is the pattern of a large unfettered central govt that can edict and mandate? It's not like we've invented the wheel here. To believe some altruistic intent and ignore the encroachment is naive at best... a leap of blind faith equal to or surpassing any religion at worst... given recorded history.

Terms like self-evident, infringed, natural... are easier to ignore than misinterpret like "common good and general welfare".

Here we go again. I'll swear if there is one overarching characteristic of the right wing responses on this forum it is the ability to exaggerate to the point of absurdity the statements of the other side.

All I'm saying is that it is the government, the courts that defend our liberties not a function of having faith in our god given freedoms. There is a place for government. It does not have to be "large and unfettered" in order to function. That is the giant leap you seem to be taking. I'm saying it is the government that protects our rights that's all.

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

Slicef18 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

So following this line of reasoning you're depending on ---what---exactly to protect your multi-round clip?

Sry... not sure I understand the question. Our natural rights are supposed to be protected by the constitution.

Perhaps I misunderstood your idea. It looked as if you were discounting the ability of the government to protect our rights, guard our equality before the law, stand up for justice and wanted to depend on a higher power (prayer, God, etc.) What did you mean then?

What is the pattern of a large unfettered central govt that can edict and mandate? It's not like we've invented the wheel here. To believe some altruistic intent and ignore the encroachment is naive at best... a leap of blind faith equal to or surpassing any religion at worst... given recorded history.

Terms like self-evident, infringed, natural... are easier to ignore than misinterpret like "common good and general welfare".

Here we go again. I'll swear if there is one overarching characteristic of the right wing responses on this forum it is the ability to exaggerate to the point of absurdity the statements of the other side.

All I'm saying is that it is the government, the courts that defend our liberties not a function of having faith in our god given freedoms. There is a place for government. It does not have to be "large and unfettered" in order to function. That is the giant leap you seem to be taking. I'm saying it is the government that protects our rights that's all.

"I'm saying it is the government that protects our rights that's all."

Business will copy your rights and adopt them as their own,(ie business now has the same rights as donating and voting citizens) Religion will require your rights and labor or condemn you to eternal misery.

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:The belief that govt is a path to enlightenment and equality and justice might take more faith than religion...

and the followers are certainly as strident and immovable.

That would make sense if anyone else was saying it besides you. Quit trying to paint with such a broad brush. No one thinks government-run everything is the solution to what ails us. But if the government truly represents the will of a majority of the people and not the MIC or the neocon agenda, we'll have a return to sanity.