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whats in that obama 2013 so called budget?

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Margin Call

Margin Call

PkrBum wrote:it's really not fair to use the word budget when you're spending nearly twice what you're taking in.

since there was a clinton tax rate... and a bush tax cut... this will be an obama tax increase... right?

An Obama partial reversion.

Guest


Guest

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

What is it called when you discuss and decide on how much money you should spend versus how much money you expect to earn? The name is on the tip of my tongue.....


It's called a BUDGET! cheers

To be clear, you should be saying that no new "budget resolution" has been passed. This is the source of the nuttie nonsense. That does not mean that there is not a budget. In fact, several budgets have passed both houses of Congress and been signed by the President since 2009. There are procedures in place for money to be budgeted in the absence of a "new" budget resolution. By definition and real-world effect, taxation and spending bills specify increases and decreases in budgetary levels.

Markle

Markle

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

What is it called when you discuss and decide on how much money you should spend versus how much money you expect to earn? The name is on the tip of my tongue.....


It's called a BUDGET! cheers

To be clear, you should be saying that no new "budget resolution" has been passed. This is the source of the nuttie nonsense. That does not mean that there is not a budget. In fact, several budgets have passed both houses of Congress and been signed by the President since 2009. There are procedures in place for money to be budgeted in the absence of a "new" budget resolution. By definition and real-world effect, taxation and spending bills specify increases and decreases in budgetary levels.

So we have "procedures" in place for a budget if we don't have a budget.

Please show us where Budgets for 2010, 2011 and 2012 have been passed by the House, Senate and SIGNED by President Barack Hussein Obama.

Margin Call

Margin Call

Markle wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

What is it called when you discuss and decide on how much money you should spend versus how much money you expect to earn? The name is on the tip of my tongue.....


It's called a BUDGET! cheers

To be clear, you should be saying that no new "budget resolution" has been passed. This is the source of the nuttie nonsense. That does not mean that there is not a budget. In fact, several budgets have passed both houses of Congress and been signed by the President since 2009. There are procedures in place for money to be budgeted in the absence of a "new" budget resolution. By definition and real-world effect, taxation and spending bills specify increases and decreases in budgetary levels.

So we have "procedures" in place for a budget if we don't have a budget.

Please show us where Budgets for 2010, 2011 and 2012 have been passed by the House, Senate and SIGNED by President Barack Hussein Obama.

All the way back to 1998:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/approp/app13.html

Margin Call

Margin Call

I think it's great that the appropriation legislation is replete with the term "budget". Time for nuttie denials anyway.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Obama sucks and that is it. He can't get a budget passed and even when he had the Dems controlling Congress he couldn't get it done. That is epic fail and none of you Dumbocrats can't defend that.

Margin Call

Margin Call

KarlRove wrote:Obama sucks and that is it.

You should write a novel.

Guest


Guest

KarlRove wrote:Obama sucks and that is it. He can't get a budget passed and even when he had the Dems controlling Congress he couldn't get it done. That is epic fail and none of you Dumbocrats can't defend that.
Can or can't? Aren't you a teacher?

Guest


Guest

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

What is it called when you discuss and decide on how much money you should spend versus how much money you expect to earn? The name is on the tip of my tongue.....


It's called a BUDGET! cheers

To be clear, you should be saying that no new "budget resolution" has been passed. This is the source of the nuttie nonsense. That does not mean that there is not a budget. In fact, several budgets have passed both houses of Congress and been signed by the President since 2009. There are procedures in place for money to be budgeted in the absence of a "new" budget resolution. By definition and real-world effect, taxation and spending bills specify increases and decreases in budgetary levels.

Id say you have a extremly tiny brain.

because that technique might work for a household,, but its not what is done for a bussiness and it shouldnt be whats done for our countries bussiness.

2009 was the last time the country had a actual budget.

and speaking of budgets which directly relates to SPENDING. dont you think soeone went off the deep end to pay all thier buddies off for votes and got this country in a deep finacial mess with a insane deficit? no problem, you guys can just print more money and all of us can save up to buy a loaf of bread later on. great plan Rolling Eyes

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

What is it called when you discuss and decide on how much money you should spend versus how much money you expect to earn? The name is on the tip of my tongue.....


It's called a BUDGET! cheers

To be clear, you should be saying that no new "budget resolution" has been passed. This is the source of the nuttie nonsense. That does not mean that there is not a budget. In fact, several budgets have passed both houses of Congress and been signed by the President since 2009. There are procedures in place for money to be budgeted in the absence of a "new" budget resolution. By definition and real-world effect, taxation and spending bills specify increases and decreases in budgetary levels.

Id say you have a extremly tiny brain.

because that technique might work for a household,, but its not what is done for a bussiness and it shouldnt be whats done for our countries bussiness.

2009 was the last time the country had a actual budget.

and speaking of budgets which directly relates to SPENDING. dont you think soeone went off the deep end to pay all thier buddies off for votes and got this country in a deep finacial mess with a insane deficit? no problem, you guys can just print more money and all of us can save up to buy a loaf of bread later on. great plan Rolling Eyes

Jibberish.

Guest


Guest

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.


So, if not solidly written documents you have to follow, what are appropriations bills that are enacted into law? Vague doodles?

Try again.

so your argument is we dont need no stinkin budgets....

that simply signing a check for something you want *appropriations* is all we need. That doing a actual budget has no value and we shouldnt have them doing them to begin with, right?

What is it called when you discuss and decide on how much money you should spend versus how much money you expect to earn? The name is on the tip of my tongue.....


It's called a BUDGET! cheers

To be clear, you should be saying that no new "budget resolution" has been passed. This is the source of the nuttie nonsense. That does not mean that there is not a budget. In fact, several budgets have passed both houses of Congress and been signed by the President since 2009. There are procedures in place for money to be budgeted in the absence of a "new" budget resolution. By definition and real-world effect, taxation and spending bills specify increases and decreases in budgetary levels.

Id say you have a extremly tiny brain.

because that technique might work for a household,, but its not what is done for a bussiness and it shouldnt be whats done for our countries bussiness.

2009 was the last time the country had a actual budget.

and speaking of budgets which directly relates to SPENDING. dont you think soeone went off the deep end to pay all thier buddies off for votes and got this country in a deep finacial mess with a insane deficit? no problem, you guys can just print more money and all of us can save up to buy a loaf of bread later on. great plan Rolling Eyes

Jibberish.

actually. youre the one speaking jibberish.

youre trying to sell people a blank piece of paper that was never approved. unless you want to tell us the obama admin PLANNED all this DEBT.

obama hasnt passed a budget. thats not jibberish, its fact.

youre obviously just some monkey who does what they are told and has nothing to do with planning bussiness strategies or you would know how important a budget is.

Just because your nic name is "margin call" doenst mean you know it all. little boi.

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
actually. youre the one speaking jibberish.

youre trying to sell people a blank piece of paper that was never approved. unless you want to tell us the obama admin PLANNED all this DEBT.

Margin Call wrote:
The voluminous publication from the President's office NEVER gets passed in that form. EVER! Constitution 101: Congress write the laws.


Rogue wrote:
obama hasnt passed a budget. thats not jibberish, its fact.

Margin Call wrote:
Constitution 101 remedial class: Congress passes the laws, the President signs them (or not).

Congress has passed a budget every year Obama has been President and he's signed the bills. Think: What would be the purpose of the debt ceiling debate if not for budgetary purposes?

Rogue wrote:
youre obviously just some monkey who does what they are told and has nothing to do with planning bussiness strategies or you would know how important a budget is.

Just because your nic name is "margin call" doenst mean you know it all. little boi.

Margin Call wrote:
Your rite th presudant creatd thi deafaset not liek a bussines CEO wuld. i doenst no nuthang.

Sal

Sal

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
actually. youre the one speaking jibberish.

youre trying to sell people a blank piece of paper that was never approved. unless you want to tell us the obama admin PLANNED all this DEBT.

Margin Call wrote:
The voluminous publication from the President's office NEVER gets passed in that form. EVER! Constitution 101: Congress write the laws.


Rogue wrote:
obama hasnt passed a budget. thats not jibberish, its fact.

Margin Call wrote:
Constitution 101 remedial class: Congress passes the laws, the President signs them (or not).

Congress has passed a budget every year Obama has been President and he's signed the bills. Think: What would be the purpose of the debt ceiling debate if not for budgetary purposes?

Rogue wrote:
youre obviously just some monkey who does what they are told and has nothing to do with planning bussiness strategies or you would know how important a budget is.

Just because your nic name is "margin call" doenst mean you know it all. little boi.

Margin Call wrote:
Your rite th presudant creatd thi deafaset not liek a bussines CEO wuld. i doenst no nuthang.

LOL!

Give it up MC. Trying to teach Constitution 101 to wingnuts is like trying to teach Calculus to chimps.

Guest


Guest

The only thing that you can be certain will become law in this budget if Mr. Obama is re-elected is the monumental tax increase. His plan would raise tax rates across the board on anyone or any business owners making more than $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples. These are the 3% of taxpayers that Mr. Obama says aren't paying their fair share, though that 3% pays more in income tax than the rest of the other 97%.

The President's plan would also cancel the investment tax rate reductions that have been in place since 2003, impose a new investment income tax hike of 3.8%, and introduce the new "Buffett rule" on the rich

Tax rates will rise as follows: capital gains to 30% from 15% today; dividends to 30% from 15%; the estate tax to 45% from 35%, and don't forget the end to the temporary payroll tax cut that Mr. Obama is making such an issue of now. He only wants it to last for another 10 months.

Four years of spending of more than 24% of GDP, the four highest spending years since 1946. In the current fiscal year of 2012, despite talk of austerity, Mr. Obama predicts spending will increase by $193 billion to $3.8 trillion, or 24.3% of GDP. The top chart shows the unprecedented four-year blowout.

• Another deficit of $1.327 trillion in 2012, also an increase from 2011, and making four years in a row above $1.29 trillion. The last time that happened? Never. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204883304577221342883636060.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

If obama wins I cant wait for you guys get get the shit taxed out of you.

we went off topic with this thread as usual. bu this is why he hanst had a budget passed. he's incompetent.

Guest


Guest

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
actually. youre the one speaking jibberish.

youre trying to sell people a blank piece of paper that was never approved. unless you want to tell us the obama admin PLANNED all this DEBT.

Margin Call wrote:
The voluminous publication from the President's office NEVER gets passed in that form. EVER! Constitution 101: Congress write the laws.


Rogue wrote:
obama hasnt passed a budget. thats not jibberish, its fact.

Margin Call wrote:
Constitution 101 remedial class: Congress passes the laws, the President signs them (or not).

Congress has passed a budget every year Obama has been President and he's signed the bills. Think: What would be the purpose of the debt ceiling debate if not for budgetary purposes?

Rogue wrote:
youre obviously just some monkey who does what they are told and has nothing to do with planning bussiness strategies or you would know how important a budget is.

Just because your nic name is "margin call" doenst mean you know it all. little boi.

Margin Call wrote:
Your rite th presudant creatd thi deafaset not liek a bussines CEO wuld. i doenst no nuthang.

sur nuff mr wallstreet guru LOL

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