whats in that obama 2013 so called budget?

nochain wrote:Appropriations bills are not budgets. Continuing resolutions are not ”budgets.”

Congress Passes $3.4T Obama Budget Outline
By CBSNews
Democrats in Congress capped President Barack Obama's 100th day in office by advancing a $3.4 trillion federal budget for next year - a third of it borrowed - that prevents Republicans from blocking his proposed trillion-dollar expansion of government-provided health care over the next decade.

Wednesday's House and Senate votes to adopt the nonbinding budget blueprint were only a first step toward Obama's goal of providing health care coverage for all Americans. The budget plan for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1 sets the parameters for subsequent tax and spending bills expected to boost clean energy programs and student aid and extend many of former President George W. Bush's tax cuts.

"It's a budget that reduces taxes, lowers the deficit and creates jobs," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said. "It honors the three pillars of the Obama initiatives: energy, health care and education."

Obama cheered passage of the plan, saying in a statement that it "builds on the steps we've taken over the last 100 days to move this economy from recession to recovery and ultimately to prosperity."

The budget outline also makes it plain that Democrats won't let a mountain of deficits and debt interfere with advancing Obama's ambitious but costly agenda.

It gives Democrats the option of moving Obama's health care plan through Congress without the threat of a Republican filibuster, though Democrats promise to try to find bipartisan agreement.

The Senate adopted the plan by a 53-43 vote just hours after a 233-193 House tally.

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:[quote="ale

2010 budget: Passed 07/22/09

2011 budget: Passed 04/15/11

2012 budget: Passed 12/23/11

2013 budget: Submitted 02/13/12

The links for this are on the page one.

"(CNN) -- The U.S. government is the largest financial entity in the world. Nothing else comes close.
On Sunday, April 29, it will be exactly three years since the U.S. Senate passed a budget.
If you own or work for a small business that has a loan from a bank, I'm quite sure your business has a budget -- and a rather detailed budget at that. uced by the Senate Budget Committee Republican staff, more than $65 trillion in additional unfunded liabilities."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/29/opinion/johnson-budget/index.html

This is an opinion piece by a tea party senator who appears to be redefining the term 'budget'.

You just can't face facts. It would be mildly interesting to know what your esteemed definition of a "budget" might be.

This is astounding. I think reading your version of how Congress passes bills would be far more entertaining.

Appropriations bills are not budgets. Continuing resolutions are not ”budgets.” The fact you BHO drones continue to miss is the lack of leadership on BHOs part to get the Congress and Senate to pass a compromise budget resolution in order to adhere to a plan for the future in controlling spending. BHOs very own Senate doesn’t back him, instead falling back on that spineless cretin Reid who is only good at pointing his quivering finger of blame across the aisle. Partisan hacks.

Now how about your explanation?

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:[quote="ale

2010 budget: Passed 07/22/09

2011 budget: Passed 04/15/11

2012 budget: Passed 12/23/11

2013 budget: Submitted 02/13/12

The links for this are on the page one.

"(CNN) -- The U.S. government is the largest financial entity in the world. Nothing else comes close.
On Sunday, April 29, it will be exactly three years since the U.S. Senate passed a budget.
If you own or work for a small business that has a loan from a bank, I'm quite sure your business has a budget -- and a rather detailed budget at that. uced by the Senate Budget Committee Republican staff, more than $65 trillion in additional unfunded liabilities."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/29/opinion/johnson-budget/index.html

This is an opinion piece by a tea party senator who appears to be redefining the term 'budget'.

You just can't face facts. It would be mildly interesting to know what your esteemed definition of a "budget" might be.

This is astounding. I think reading your version of how Congress passes bills would be far more entertaining.

Appropriations bills are not budgets. Continuing resolutions are not ”budgets.” The fact you BHO drones continue to miss is the lack of leadership on BHOs part to get the Congress and Senate to pass a compromise budget resolution in order to adhere to a plan for the future in controlling spending. BHOs very own Senate doesn’t back him, instead falling back on that spineless cretin Reid who is only good at pointing his quivering finger of blame across the aisle. Partisan hacks.

Now how about your explanation?

The "budget" is the document submitted to Congress by the President. Appropriations bills enact a budget. You inadvertently admitted that the budgets have passed Congress.....which would finally aligned you with the real world.

nochain wrote:
How much simpler can one make this concept?

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:[quote="ale

2010 budget: Passed 07/22/09

2011 budget: Passed 04/15/11

2012 budget: Passed 12/23/11

2013 budget: Submitted 02/13/12

The links for this are on the page one.

"(CNN) -- The U.S. government is the largest financial entity in the world. Nothing else comes close.
On Sunday, April 29, it will be exactly three years since the U.S. Senate passed a budget.
If you own or work for a small business that has a loan from a bank, I'm quite sure your business has a budget -- and a rather detailed budget at that. uced by the Senate Budget Committee Republican staff, more than $65 trillion in additional unfunded liabilities."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/29/opinion/johnson-budget/index.html

This is an opinion piece by a tea party senator who appears to be redefining the term 'budget'.

You just can't face facts. It would be mildly interesting to know what your esteemed definition of a "budget" might be.

This is astounding. I think reading your version of how Congress passes bills would be far more entertaining.

Appropriations bills are not budgets. Continuing resolutions are not ”budgets.” The fact you BHO drones continue to miss is the lack of leadership on BHOs part to get the Congress and Senate to pass a compromise budget resolution in order to adhere to a plan for the future in controlling spending. BHOs very own Senate doesn’t back him, instead falling back on that spineless cretin Reid who is only good at pointing his quivering finger of blame across the aisle. Partisan hacks.

Now how about your explanation?

The "budget" is the document submitted to Congress by the President. Appropriations bills enact a budget. You inadvertently admitted that the budgets have passed Congress.....which would finally aligned you with the real world.

The Senate has not passed a budget resolution since April 29, 2009. Congress has taken other steps to spend federal dollars and set certain budgetary guidelines, but that resolution represents a plan to guide future budgetary decisions. The Senate has not passed budget resolutions for fiscal years 2011, 2012 or 2013. The GOP-controlled House passed budget resolutions for fiscal years 2012 and 2013, but they were rejected by the Democrat-led Senate. Fiscal year 2013 starts Oct. 1.

There has been no BUDGET RESOLUTION – use of the Budget Control Act (that you BHO drones are claiming to be a “budget”) is not a Budget Resolution. A budget has more components than the simple act of setting spending levels for discretionary programs.

How much simpler can one make this concept?

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nochain wrote:

There has been no BUDGET RESOLUTION

How much simpler can one make this concept?

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

There has been no BUDGET RESOLUTION

How much simpler can one make this concept?

...by recognizing that Congress need not pass a budget resolution every year to enact legislation (appropriations bills) in response to the President's budget request.

nochain wrote: It's simple really, just ignore the CBA like old Harry: "The Congressional Budget Act requires passage of an annual "Congressional Budget Resolution", a concurrent resolution passed in identical form by both House and Senate, but not requiring the President's signature. Anything else is just spin.

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

There has been no BUDGET RESOLUTION

How much simpler can one make this concept?

...by recognizing that Congress need not pass a budget resolution every year to enact legislation (appropriations bills) in response to the President's budget request.

You sound like Harry Reid and your statement is just as flawed. He doesn't think it important either, even after 3 years. It's simple really, just ignore the CBA like old Harry: "The Congressional Budget Act requires passage of an annual "Congressional Budget Resolution", a concurrent resolution passed in identical form by both House and Senate, but not requiring the President's signature. Anything else is just spin.

newswatcher wrote:

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote:

There has been no BUDGET RESOLUTION

How much simpler can one make this concept?

...by recognizing that Congress need not pass a budget resolution every year to enact legislation (appropriations bills) in response to the President's budget request.

You sound like Harry Reid and your statement is just as flawed. He doesn't think it important either, even after 3 years. It's simple really, just ignore the CBA like old Harry: "The Congressional Budget Act requires passage of an annual "Congressional Budget Resolution", a concurrent resolution passed in identical form by both House and Senate, but not requiring the President's signature. Anything else is just spin.

The facts about the DO NOTHING Senate under the lack of leadership of Sen Reid isn't even a debatable issue...they don't deny that they've done nothing...The COWH picked a super committee let them work and then decided to to listen to their findings...He's NEVER had an interest in a budget...controlling spending or being open with the American People...He doesn't hide that he's pro BIG (and growing) Government and recognizes the ignnorance of some while he campaigns against the republicans as the enemy for not budget being passed...again without hesitation because no one questions him or asks...who's in charge of the Senate?....Give credit he knows the Gumps that support him and the blind infatuated media that grovels on every word he says without doing their job...so as a politician he's impressive but as a president....he's a failure....One expert said it best...He's in love with being president but not in doing the job...The COWH fits perfectly in today's reality type society...all show no substance...

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote: It's simple really, just ignore the CBA like old Harry: "The Congressional Budget Act requires passage of an annual "Congressional Budget Resolution", a concurrent resolution passed in identical form by both House and Senate, but not requiring the President's signature. Anything else is just spin.

A) A budget resolution is not a law, nor does it appropriate funds.
B) Which "annual" resolution guides Congress if a new one is not adopted?

Are you somehow under the impression that the government has not spent money since Obama became President? Your position on this issue is that ridiculous.

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote: It's simple really, just ignore the CBA like old Harry: "The Congressional Budget Act requires passage of an annual "Congressional Budget Resolution", a concurrent resolution passed in identical form by both House and Senate, but not requiring the President's signature. Anything else is just spin.

A) A budget resolution is not a law, nor does it appropriate funds.
B) Which "annual" resolution guides Congress if a new one is not adopted?

Are you somehow under the impression that the government has not spent money since Obama became President? Your position on this issue is that ridiculous.

Where did you dream that up? It is pretty obvious the govt has spent a butt load of money. There is no plan but apparently you like it that way because then there is no accountability.

nochain wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote: It's simple really, just ignore the CBA like old Harry: "The Congressional Budget Act requires passage of an annual "Congressional Budget Resolution", a concurrent resolution passed in identical form by both House and Senate, but not requiring the President's signature. Anything else is just spin.

A) A budget resolution is not a law, nor does it appropriate funds.
B) Which "annual" resolution guides Congress if a new one is not adopted?

Are you somehow under the impression that the government has not spent money since Obama became President? Your position on this issue is that ridiculous.

Where did you dream that up? It is pretty obvious the govt has spent a butt load of money. There is no plan but apparently you like it that way because then there is no accountability.

Lurch wrote:

nochain wrote: you seem to be very persistent in holding Democrats accountable for every failure of the Federal government!!!!!

Margin Call wrote:

nochain wrote: you seem to be very persistent in holding Democrats accountable for every failure of the Federal government!!!!!

Negative. If you have followed very many of my posts I have always maintained anyone currently holding office needs to be sent home. They have ALL failed to perform the job they were elected to do. My position is in direct conflict with your partisan hack position. It is you who feels only one party is responsible while BHO, Reid, and the other Dems get a free pass. Hypocrite.

Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

Rogue wrote:It shows a couple things that we already knew, its the liebrals and obama who refuse to compromise and get stuff done. obama is a his way or no way man.

Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

boards of FL wrote:

Rogue wrote:It shows a couple things that we already knew, its the liebrals and obama who refuse to compromise and get stuff done. obama is a his way or no way man.

SObama has suggested that only the top tier bracket be restored to the Clinton tax rates and the Bush tax rates remain for everyone else. Isn't that an example of offering compromise? How have republicans responded to this idea?

Rogue wrote:

Margin Call wrote:Since when did people sitting in conferences and committee meetings discussing and agreeing on revenue and spending issues not amount to setting a budget?

budgets are not discussions. They are solid writen documents you have to follow.

Margin Call wrote:

How do you have targets or goals without a budget?

Just spend until you reach the end of the year and say, well, we need more taxes?