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gatorfan
Wordslinger
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Sal
RottiesRule
Damaged Eagle
RealLindaL
knothead
Joanimaroni
Markle
Telstar
Vikingwoman
othershoe1030
ZVUGKTUBM
boards of FL
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101A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 10:20 pm

Sal

Sal

Perfect.

This place is a morgue.

See ya.

102A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 10:35 pm

Telstar

Telstar

Markle wrote:
Telstar wrote:I know this is probably a dumb question but how and why does Boards have the power to banish anyone? It seems to me that if Boards really does have the power to ban anyone it's very considerate of him to put it to a member vote. Why is it that the member in question does not just turn the tables and banish boards? If Boards has that power because he created, supports and maintains this group than good for Boards, he deserves it. On the other hand if someone is banned why moan and groan about it? They should simply create their own forum page and invite those that enjoy reading their spam/posts to contribute to it, complaining about being banned only points out how powerless and impotent the banee is. I know that I could never create and maintain a forum like this so Boards if you are the real power behind this forum I thank you publicly for providing and maintaining it and allowing me to be informed and heard.

Anyone can "create" and maintain a forum.  They're boiler plate, you simply go to a website, fill out the information and off you go.  BoardsofFL was lucky that his in Pensacola at the same time the Pensacola Newspaper folded their forum.

Here is the site from which BoardsofFL established "his" forum.

https://www.forumotion.com/

Fine, so if it is "his" forum than "he" should do whatever he wants with it. It's his toy so it's up to him to decide if someone is causing damage to it and what to do about that.

103A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 10:37 pm

Telstar

Telstar

Salinsky wrote:Perfect.

This place is a morgue.

See ya.




Don't go. I like reading you.

104A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 10:42 pm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

I finally stepped up and voted for poster Markle.

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105A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 10:44 pm

RealLindaL



Telstar wrote:
Markle wrote:
Telstar wrote:I know this is probably a dumb question but how and why does Boards have the power to banish anyone? It seems to me that if Boards really does have the power to ban anyone it's very considerate of him to put it to a member vote. Why is it that the member in question does not just turn the tables and banish boards? If Boards has that power because he created, supports and maintains this group than good for Boards, he deserves it. On the other hand if someone is banned why moan and groan about it? They should simply create their own forum page and invite those that enjoy reading their spam/posts to contribute to it, complaining about being banned only points out how powerless and impotent the banee is. I know that I could never create and maintain a forum like this so Boards if you are the real power behind this forum I thank you publicly for providing and maintaining it and allowing me to be informed and heard.

Anyone can "create" and maintain a forum.  They're boiler plate, you simply go to a website, fill out the information and off you go.  BoardsofFL was lucky that his in Pensacola at the same time the Pensacola Newspaper folded their forum.

Here is the site from which BoardsofFL established "his" forum.

https://www.forumotion.com/

Fine, so if it is "his" forum than "he" should do whatever he wants with it. It's his toy so it's up to him to decide if someone is causing damage to it and what to do about that.

It sure seems that way to me, Telstar.   And I never heard there were any contracts here guaranteeing anybody anything, including continuation of the forum.

106A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 10:51 pm

Telstar

Telstar

RealLindaL wrote:
Telstar wrote:
Markle wrote:
Telstar wrote:I know this is probably a dumb question but how and why does Boards have the power to banish anyone? It seems to me that if Boards really does have the power to ban anyone it's very considerate of him to put it to a member vote. Why is it that the member in question does not just turn the tables and banish boards? If Boards has that power because he created, supports and maintains this group than good for Boards, he deserves it. On the other hand if someone is banned why moan and groan about it? They should simply create their own forum page and invite those that enjoy reading their spam/posts to contribute to it, complaining about being banned only points out how powerless and impotent the banee is. I know that I could never create and maintain a forum like this so Boards if you are the real power behind this forum I thank you publicly for providing and maintaining it and allowing me to be informed and heard.

Anyone can "create" and maintain a forum.  They're boiler plate, you simply go to a website, fill out the information and off you go.  BoardsofFL was lucky that his in Pensacola at the same time the Pensacola Newspaper folded their forum.

Here is the site from which BoardsofFL established "his" forum.

https://www.forumotion.com/

Fine, so if it is "his" forum than "he" should do whatever he wants with it. It's his toy so it's up to him to decide if someone is causing damage to it and what to do about that.

It sure seems that way to me, Telstar.   And I never heard there were any contracts here guaranteeing anybody anything, including continuation of the forum.


Thanks Linda I thought I was missing something.

107A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 11:02 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Contracts?

108A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/10/2016, 11:17 pm

Guest


Guest

Salinsky wrote:Hello, folks.

Just checking in.

Boards is under no obligation to host a propagandist who posts material with the potential to do real harm to benevolent organizations, despite the fact that the propagandist has been warned repeatedly to desist.

If you choose to continue to enable this cancer to public discourse, then you will get exactly what you deserve.

Good luck!


What a baby you are.

109A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 12:25 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Boards, Sal, this forum is better with you than without you.

110A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 12:58 am

RealLindaL



Joanimaroni wrote:Contracts?

What don't you understand this time, Joani?  I said what I meant.  Certain posters here seem to think that Boards owes them something in terms of how the forum is run.  All I'm saying is that I'm not aware of any contractual obligation on the part of a forum 'host' to do things a certain way just because a number of registered users say he should, or even because he, the host, said he would do so in the past.  Circumstances change, people change, perceptions change, rules change -- and it seems to me that Boards is the one who's responsible for setting and updating the guidelines, not anyone else.  

But I'll sort of echo Telstar and ask:  Am I missing something??

111A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 1:39 am

Vikingwoman



Just ban Markle from politics. That will solve the problem.

112A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 2:36 am

Markle

Markle

Vikingwoman wrote:Just ban Markle from politics. That will solve the problem.

Can't stand the truth and the facts?

If you have the facts on your side, why don't you simply post those in order to disprove my posts. Wouldn't that be easier?

You're one of the most vitriolic toward me and I do not know why. Where have I been anything other than respectful to you? Or is that what angers you even more? Why do you take it so seriously and personal?

113A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 3:23 am

Markle

Markle

RottiesRule wrote:I voted for Boards.
When I get a chance to view the Forum, I prefer thoughtful honest dialogue. Markle seems to inundate the Forum with cut and paste topics that no one responds to and it is tedious. He also never seems to accept when he is proven wrong or apologized.
While I don't condone censorship, I would prefer a Boards version over Markles.
Just my .02.

As you know, my threads spur much discussion. I post facts that I source and provide links to for your convenience.

When I have been wrong about something I posted which was not accurate, I apologize. Look back if you're sincere and view my threads. My posts are met with personal attacks, vitriol, profanity and distractions. Seldom, if ever, do they address the facts and truth I have posted. Why do you suppose that is?

114A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 7:29 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
RottiesRule wrote:I voted for Boards.
When I get a chance to view the Forum, I prefer thoughtful honest dialogue. Markle seems to inundate the Forum with cut and paste topics that no one responds to and it is tedious. He also never seems to accept when he is proven wrong or apologized.
While I don't condone censorship, I would prefer a Boards version over Markles.
Just my .02.

As you know, my threads spur much discussion.  I post facts that I source and provide links to for your convenience.

When I have been wrong about something I posted which was not accurate, I apologize.  Look back if you're sincere and view my threads.  My posts are met with personal attacks, vitriol, profanity and distractions.  Seldom, if ever, do they address the facts and truth I have posted.  Why do you suppose that is?

This time I'm jumping into this conflict.  Markle, I began using the term "Down with Amerika Inc.! Control of our government through corrupt campaign financing." And a few months later you slammed me with your Hitler's train crapola, including a portrait of Adolph, with a superimposed political statement for which his subsequent actions proved without doubt he had never meant a word. The facts are, you tried your best to smear me as a Nazi ... and you knew you were lying.

Then I look up "Amerika" and learn that the original "Amerika" wasn't a Hitlarian train, it was an Ocean liner built in 1905.  I post the data, and you still refuse to accept the truth.

Markle, the facts are you frequently seek to harm members of this forum by creating propaganda designed to destroy their credibility and image.  This isn't disputable -- your own posts have frequently gloated over your victories at pissing people off.  

Hell, my father's family was murdered by Ukrainian Nazis under German control in WWII in Russia, and you have the gall to accuse me of being anti-semitic.  Not to prove a political point ... just to do me harm.  


You're an evil liar, Markle.  And don't think the rest of us aren't smart enough to recognize that more than often, the purpose of your posts is not to persuade anyone to your warped political point of view, but just to piss someone off.  The forum was created to provide a platform for public discourse, not to insult or harm members. Given the opportunity to eject you from this forum, why in hell should we allow you to continue here?  

Reality!

115A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 8:47 am

gatorfan



boards of FL wrote:So now we have seen what the forum looks like in the absence of myself, Sal, and viking; and it looks bleak.


Actually it doesn't. You acted like a little child, picked up your baby doll and ran off crying to your Mommy.

I sure haven't missed your condescending attitude and endless hypothetical questions while telling anyone who disagrees with you that they are essentially ignorant cows.

If you want to ban Markle for posting endless political opinions why not apply the same standard to Wordslinger who posts endless anti-religion threads? Oh that's right, you agree with WS. You are indeed a spineless hypocrite.

Personally I could care less who goes or stays, I just ignore the garbage I don't care about which is most of what's on here.

I'm not playing your little kid game by voting, if it doesn't go your way you'll revert to type and change the rules again to suit your narcissistic tendencies. What a punk......

116A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 9:04 am

Guest


Guest

There's zero reason and confidence to trust the validity of this poll. He nullified the vote to remove him from moderator despite agreeing to it... he has ignored the decisive vote to overturn his banning of markle. He's exhausted any credibility.

117A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 10:10 am

boards of FL

boards of FL

So say there is a forum where scientists (geologists, radio-carbon dating experts, archaeologists, etc..) all gather to discuss ancient archaeology.  Let's say that Kent Hovind (In case some of you aren't familiar, he is the local "Dr. Dino" who was found guilty of tax evasion.  He believes that the Earth is 6000 years old and that man and dinosaur lived together in the same era.) were to register on that forum and begin posting things like "REPENT NOW!   Admit that man and dinosaur LIVED TOGETHER!  Or the end is nigh!!  Thou shalt burn in HELL!!"

Now, if the forum moderator were to ban Hovind in that scenario, would that be some sort of injustice?  Would those scientists be banning Hovind out of a fear that he is winning the argument?  Are those scientists banning Hovind because he simply makes points that are irrefutable?  Or is it because he is way out of his league and is simply spamming bullshit? What if those scientist honestly tried to engage Hovind on each and every thread that he creates, only to see Hovind run away and create three more threads in the same vein. Then what?


If I post a link to thehill as a source and then Markle simply refuses to even read it because it is a "far left socialist site", but then Markle uses that very site as a source himself next week...can we really say that Markle is participating in good faith discussion here?  Or could we say that Makle is simply spamming a rhetoric with then intent of nothing more than optics?

Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Ole Man Markle appears to be losing his memory.  This email is old news and was discussed here last month. The forces mentioned in the email were in fact deployed immediately.  We know this because an unredacted version of the email is now available and the forces mentioned corroborate Panettas testimony during Benghazi hearings.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/262756-new-email-splits-benghazi-committee

The Democrats released their email a day after conservative legal group Judicial Watch released a slightly redacted version, which it had won access to under the Freedom of Information Act. At the time, conservative outlets such as Fox News said that the email was a “smoking gun” that undermined testimony from former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

But the unredacted version of the email makes clear that the forces under discussion to move to Benghazi were the same ones that previous investigations had claimed were on the move: a Marine Fleet Antiterrorism Security Teams (FAST) and a special operations force out of Croatia.

You really need to wean yourself off your far left Socialist sites and branch out.  This email was just released with this latest flurry being released weekly.  Try to keep up.





Or let's say I create a thread like this one (as I do every month):

https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t21871-bls-employment-situation-142000-jobs-added-to-the-economy-in-september-unemployment-rate-holds-at-5-1


Is Markle participating in good faith when he then runs out and creates this thread a day after me?

https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t21877-the-economy-added-just-142000-jobs-last-month-other-posters-have-posted-lies



What if something like the Planned Parenthood videos come out, are deemed to be fraudulent, and then creators of said video are prosecuted for as much...is Markle engaging in honest, good faith discussion by continuing to pretend that that never happened?  Or is Markle only interested in spamming for optics?

Are the Planned Parenthood videos legit?  Are any of the O'Keefe videos legit?  Was the Shirley Sherrod video legit?   The rest of the thinking world knows the answer here and has moved on to more relevant discussion.  But not Markle!  

Is there really any need to continue to entertain these type of narratives that have long ago been irrefutably and objectively deemed false?  Should we continue to waste time here over the shape of the planet?  Can we move beyond discussions about whether or not the moon landing was a hoax?


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118A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 10:23 am

boards of FL

boards of FL

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I finally stepped up and voted for poster Markle.


Very disappointing, Z.


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119A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 10:52 am

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

boards of FL wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I finally stepped up and voted for poster Markle.


Very disappointing, Z.

I did it out of principle; not because I am particularly fond of poster Markle.

The forum has really developed a Stalinist bent recently; in that, I am very disappointed.

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120A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 11:00 am

Sal

Sal

I'll make one last observation on this subject.

Note how no one defends the quality nor the content of Markle's posts.

The only defense is that he somehow has a right to spew his noxious bullshit on this forum.

Again, for the slow on the uptake, Boards is under no obligation to host a propagandist who posts material with the potential to do real harm to benevolent organizations.

That's principle.

121A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 11:16 am

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

The forum has morphed into something that extends beyond the politics of the members.

In two years, we have lost two members to illnesses, with another on the cusp. Several of us, including myself and poster Markle, have cancer. If you care to look in the General Section, there is wide ranging discussion focused on the personal lives of members fighting those battles.

Boards and Sal still have their youth. All I can say is that at 36, I was 100% more healthy than I am now (with the exceptions of discussing my 2014 heart attack and recent diagnosis of having prostate cancer, I have chosen to not go public here with other major health issues I deal with).

There is a lot more to this forum than just politics. There is where my principles lie.

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122A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 1:12 pm

boards of FL

boards of FL

Well like I said before. If anyone would like to stay up to date on right-wing fringe FWD emails, and if Markle would like to continue creating all caps threads about them, I'm sure the forum below will welcome you. If anyone would like to still entertain the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos as objective fact, in spite of the fact that the video creators have in fact been indicted - look no further than the forum below.


http://pensacoladaily.forumotion.com/


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123A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 1:20 pm

Markle

Markle

boards of FL wrote:Well like I said before.  If anyone would like to stay up to date on right-wing fringe FWD emails, and if Markle would like to continue creating all caps threads about them, I'm sure the forum below will welcome you.   If anyone would like to still entertain the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos as objective fact, in spite of the fact that the video creators have in fact been indicted - look no further than the forum below.

http://pensacoladaily.forumotion.com/

You fail to say what those taking the video were charged with doing.

The video's are factual, you can view them yourself. The entire video's have been made available for viewing.

All cap headlines offend you? Really? How about all 24 point bold responses?

124A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 1:26 pm

Markle

Markle

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Obviously I cover the pages with all caps headlines.

Sometimes the articles I post use all caps in their headlines. I copy them for accuracy. Sometimes I do it to draw attention and annoy people. I thought that was the purpose of a forum. To spur discussion, not be like the DailyKOS and allow anyone to ban folks from discussion.

125A proposition... - Page 5 Empty Re: A proposition... 4/11/2016, 1:28 pm

boards of FL

boards of FL

Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Well like I said before.  If anyone would like to stay up to date on right-wing fringe FWD emails, and if Markle would like to continue creating all caps threads about them, I'm sure the forum below will welcome you.   If anyone would like to still entertain the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos as objective fact, in spite of the fact that the video creators have in fact been indicted - look no further than the forum below.

http://pensacoladaily.forumotion.com/

You fail to say what those taking the video were charged with doing.  

The video's are factual, you can view them yourself.  The entire video's have been made available for viewing.

All cap headlines offend you?  Really?  How about all 24 point bold responses?


http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/25/politics/planned-parenthood-activists-indicted/

Washington (CNN)A Texas investigation into Planned Parenthood on Monday culminated in an indictment -- of the organization's accusers instead of the group.

The Harris County District Attorney's office announced that Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast had been cleared in the two-month-long investigation.

But the grand jury did indict two individuals who were involved in making secret recordings of the group that were released to publicly discredit the group, which provides health services and abortions.

David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt were indicted for tampering with a governmental record, a second-degree felony, and Daleiden was also indicted on the count of prohibition of the purchase and sale of human organs, a class A misdemeanor, according to the Harris County district attorney.


Planned Parenthood has been cleared of any illegal activity. Do you agree, Markle? Don't you agree, Markle, that the videos depict nothing illegal on the part of Planned Parenthood?


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