Forum republicans: If the general election comes down to Trump versus Clinton, who will you vote for?

I have been thinking it is time to refuse to elect a politician.

EmeraldGhost wrote:As I've said previously .... lefties are gonna vote Democrat, righties are gonna vote Republican.   That leaves those swing voters in the middle to decide the election.  They're not gonna vote for somebody who is "scary" ... they're not gonna vote for somebody "extreme" to the left or right.   And quite a few of them are only somewhat informed on policy and are gonna vote their "feels." based upon how the various MSM sources portray each candidate.   He's a nice man.  She's a nice lady.  S/he says nice things.  S/he sounds sensible.  S/he has a beautiful family ... or comes from a nice family.  S/he sounds really smart.  It would be nice to have a black/latino/female President, Vice-President, whatever for a change.  There's your swing voters.

That's why politicians play to the middle when it comes to the general election ... and smart ones who want to win don't pander to the base too blatantly during the primary so something "scary" or "extreme" can be attributed to & used against them in the general election.

It'll be Hillary vs Rubio.  Mark my words.

Swing voters:

You have to remember you're getting Bill and Hillary. Bill may have been a whoredog but he was a good President. Besides Lindsay Graham said it was better to have a democrat in office rather than Trump.

Vikingwoman wrote:You have to remember you're getting Bill and Hillary. Bill may have been a whoredog but he was a good President. Besides Lindsay Graham said it was better to have a democrat in office rather than Trump.

You hate Graham, why would you trust him now?

WANTING a rapist back in the White House is just sick.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Between the two I would vote against Hillary.

So when you look at the policies being offered by Trump and the policies being offered by Clinton, you feel that Trump's policies align more closely with your own than Clinton's?

Massive walls on the mexican border, the development of a mass deportation force, targeting of family members of our enemies, etc.  It's not any of that that you take issue with, but you instead take issue with Clinton's policies?

Joani, out of all of Clinton's policies which do you feel is the worst?  Which of Clinton's policies is the one that makes you say to yourself, "Wow.  I realize  Trump is not the best option here, but there is no way that I could vote for Clinton because she supports (insert policy)."

I'm interested in hearing your answer to that.  I suspect I know what it will be, though I'm curious as to what your response will be.

Well look at that. Your response is exactly what I thought it would be: nothing.

Joani, you're not actually familiar with any of Trump's or Clinton's policies, are you?

The term 'low information voter' comes to mind

boards of FL wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Between the two I would vote against Hillary.

So when you look at the policies being offered by Trump and the policies being offered by Clinton, you feel that Trump's policies align more closely with your own than Clinton's?

Massive walls on the mexican border, the development of a mass deportation force, targeting of family members of our enemies, etc.  It's not any of that that you take issue with, but you instead take issue with Clinton's policies?

Joani, out of all of Clinton's policies which do you feel is the worst?  Which of Clinton's policies is the one that makes you say to yourself, "Wow.  I realize  Trump is not the best option here, but there is no way that I could vote for Clinton because she supports (insert policy)."

I'm interested in hearing your answer to that.  I suspect I know what it will be, though I'm curious as to what your response will be.

Well look at that.  Your response is exactly what I thought it would be:  nothing.

Joani, you're not actually familiar with any of Trump's or Clinton's policies, are you?  

The term 'low information voter' comes to mind

Aw....no chance to pick apart my comments. Your interest is strictly for personal gratification.

As of right now,  Trump is winning the poll. 

As crazy as it sounds,  I think Trump could get the nomination.  They said Reagan was wearing "Teflon".  But compared to Trump,  Reagan was wearing a burka.  lol

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Between the two I would vote against Hillary.

So when you look at the policies being offered by Trump and the policies being offered by Clinton, you feel that Trump's policies align more closely with your own than Clinton's?

Massive walls on the mexican border, the development of a mass deportation force, targeting of family members of our enemies, etc.  It's not any of that that you take issue with, but you instead take issue with Clinton's policies?

Joani, out of all of Clinton's policies which do you feel is the worst?  Which of Clinton's policies is the one that makes you say to yourself, "Wow.  I realize  Trump is not the best option here, but there is no way that I could vote for Clinton because she supports (insert policy)."

I'm interested in hearing your answer to that.  I suspect I know what it will be, though I'm curious as to what your response will be.

Well look at that.  Your response is exactly what I thought it would be:  nothing.

Joani, you're not actually familiar with any of Trump's or Clinton's policies, are you?  

The term 'low information voter' comes to mind

Aw....no chance to pick apart my comments. Your interest is strictly for personal gratification.  

My interest was to see if you're actually familiar with the policies of the two candidates in question and then your vote is driven by those policies, or if you are a low information who doesn't really know anything about policy and who instead votes based upon empty rhetoric that you hear.  

Based upon your inability to respond to my question about policy and the fact that your only contributions to this thread are empty rhetoric...well, it looks like you are in fact a low information voter.

You could easily correct me there by simply discussing the policy positions that drive you to choose Trump over Clinton.  Seems simple.  Trump is proposing everything from giant walls on the Mexican border to the banning of Muslims from gaining entry the US.  There is nothing even remotely that crazy or extreme being proposed by Clinton - who is willing to acknowledge  climate change and the global scientific consensus that exists in that field, who is willing to acknowledge the gross redistribution of wealth that has occurred over the last 30 years, and who takes a less hawkish approach to the middle east than any of the electable republican candidates.  See how easy that is?  Well, see how easy that is for someone who isn't a low information voter?  

Low information voters, on the other hand, are constrained by their internal faculties. Low information voters, on the other hand, are generally only good for empty rhetoric. "Clinton lies!" Right? I mean, that's why you're not voting for Clinton, isn't it? It really has nothing to do with the policies Clinton is proposing, right? You heard the phrase "Clinton lies!", and that's good enough for you, right? I mean, that is your position, right?

Seven votes ? There aren't seven Republicans on this forum.

Obamasucks wrote:Seven votes ? There aren't seven Republicans on this forum.

Hey where ya been sucks ?

Obamasucks wrote:Seven votes ? There aren't seven Republicans on this forum.

bds must have rigged this poll to favor Trump.  Shame on you,  bds.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Between the two I would vote against Hillary.

So when you look at the policies being offered by Trump and the policies being offered by Clinton, you feel that Trump's policies align more closely with your own than Clinton's?

Massive walls on the mexican border, the development of a mass deportation force, targeting of family members of our enemies, etc.  It's not any of that that you take issue with, but you instead take issue with Clinton's policies?

Joani, out of all of Clinton's policies which do you feel is the worst?  Which of Clinton's policies is the one that makes you say to yourself, "Wow.  I realize  Trump is not the best option here, but there is no way that I could vote for Clinton because she supports (insert policy)."

I'm interested in hearing your answer to that.  I suspect I know what it will be, though I'm curious as to what your response will be.

Well look at that.  Your response is exactly what I thought it would be:  nothing.

Joani, you're not actually familiar with any of Trump's or Clinton's policies, are you?  

The term 'low information voter' comes to mind

Aw....no chance to pick apart my comments. Your interest is strictly for personal gratification.  

My interest was to see if you're actually familiar with the policies of the two candidates in question and then your vote is driven by those policies, or if you are a low information who doesn't really know anything about policy and who instead votes based upon empty rhetoric that you hear.  

Based upon your inability to respond to my question about policy and the fact that your only contributions to this thread are empty rhetoric...well, it looks like you are in fact a low information voter.

You could easily correct me there by simply discussing the policy positions that drive you to choose Trump over Clinton.  Seems simple.  Trump is proposing everything from giant walls on the Mexican border to the banning of Muslims from gaining entry the US.  There is nothing even remotely that crazy or extreme being proposed by Clinton - who is willing to acknowledge  climate change and the global scientific consensus that exists in that field, who is willing to acknowledge the gross redistribution of wealth that has occurred over the last 30 years, and who takes a less hawkish approach to the middle east than any of the electable republican candidates.  See how easy that is?  Well, see how easy that is for someone who isn't a low information voter?  

Low information voters, on the other hand, are constrained by their internal faculties.  Low information voters, on the other hand, are generally only good for empty rhetoric.  "Clinton lies!"  Right?  I mean, that's why you're not voting for Clinton, isn't it?  It really has nothing to do with the policies Clinton is proposing, right?  You heard the phrase "Clinton lies!", and that's good enough for you, right?  I mean, that is your position, right?

You are free to believe what you want.

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Between the two I would vote against Hillary.

So when you look at the policies being offered by Trump and the policies being offered by Clinton, you feel that Trump's policies align more closely with your own than Clinton's?

Massive walls on the mexican border, the development of a mass deportation force, targeting of family members of our enemies, etc.  It's not any of that that you take issue with, but you instead take issue with Clinton's policies?

Joani, out of all of Clinton's policies which do you feel is the worst?  Which of Clinton's policies is the one that makes you say to yourself, "Wow.  I realize  Trump is not the best option here, but there is no way that I could vote for Clinton because she supports (insert policy)."

I'm interested in hearing your answer to that.  I suspect I know what it will be, though I'm curious as to what your response will be.

Well look at that.  Your response is exactly what I thought it would be:  nothing.

Joani, you're not actually familiar with any of Trump's or Clinton's policies, are you?  

The term 'low information voter' comes to mind

Aw....no chance to pick apart my comments. Your interest is strictly for personal gratification.  

My interest was to see if you're actually familiar with the policies of the two candidates in question and then your vote is driven by those policies, or if you are a low information who doesn't really know anything about policy and who instead votes based upon empty rhetoric that you hear.  

Based upon your inability to respond to my question about policy and the fact that your only contributions to this thread are empty rhetoric...well, it looks like you are in fact a low information voter.

You could easily correct me there by simply discussing the policy positions that drive you to choose Trump over Clinton.  Seems simple.  Trump is proposing everything from giant walls on the Mexican border to the banning of Muslims from gaining entry the US.  There is nothing even remotely that crazy or extreme being proposed by Clinton - who is willing to acknowledge  climate change and the global scientific consensus that exists in that field, who is willing to acknowledge the gross redistribution of wealth that has occurred over the last 30 years, and who takes a less hawkish approach to the middle east than any of the electable republican candidates.  See how easy that is?  Well, see how easy that is for someone who isn't a low information voter?  

Low information voters, on the other hand, are constrained by their internal faculties.  Low information voters, on the other hand, are generally only good for empty rhetoric.  "Clinton lies!"  Right?  I mean, that's why you're not voting for Clinton, isn't it?  It really has nothing to do with the policies Clinton is proposing, right?  You heard the phrase "Clinton lies!", and that's good enough for you, right?  I mean, that is your position, right?

You are free to believe what you want.

It's not really an issue of my believing anything.  I was hoping you would simply be able to state whatever it is that would cause you to vote for Trump over Clinton, and my hope was that there would be some substance there and not just empty, unsupported rhetoric.

Your non-answer suggests that, unfortunately, the latter is in fact the case. You don't really know anything about either of these candidates and you're opinion is guided purely by empty rhetoric.  You're free to express whatever you want, and that is precisely what you're expressing.   I can only form my opinion of you based upon what you give me, and that's what you're giving me:  empty, unsupported rhetoric.

I'd much rather this forum be one where republicans and democrats alike each contribute substance.   Unfortunately, however, we have educated democrats who provide substantive posts and uneducated republicans who provide "Clinton lies!", empty rhetoric...and then delete themselves for a few months, only to return and repeat the cycle.

I will pull my usual Republican primary ballot. I will vote for Kasich even if he has dropped out by the time Illinois has a primary. If Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination, I will vote for the first time in my life for a democrat for President. For anybody on this forum who would vote for a fascist like Trump, I can only pray for your soul. I have never been a fan of Hillary but in regard to competency.......there is nobody close to her experience, intelligence, and ability. Sometimes you need grown ups to serve as President.