President Obama's Press conference today

2seaoat wrote: He made it clear that he is going to be working for the American people non stop over the last two years.  

2seaoat wrote:Obama hasn't been a total failure but he has been a very weak President, particularly in foreign affairs and in certain domestic issues. He has no coherent foreign policy

I think of Jackie Robinson.  The first four years of his career he had to restrain every natural reaction to situations because of the bigger goal.  Well, President Obama no longer has to defer and keep his head down.  He proudly and may I say confidently said this is the fourth quarter of the game and things will get interesting.   He simply owned the room, and everybody is commenting on his confidence.

In regard to him being weak, like Jackie Robinson, his deferred action is seen as weakness.  Jackie Robinson was incredibly strong and focused.  The President's  foreign policy has been brilliant.  I listened to these threads telling us the terrorist Mr. K will not be beat.......no, he crawled out of sewer pipe and gave satisfaction to thousands of American family members who lost people at the hand of Mr. K on the TWA flight.  We got Bin Laden without spending another five trillion.   Israel has no credible nation state threat from Egypt, Syria, and Iraq as these nations are in turmoil.  I listened how weak President Obama was with Putin......who is weak now.    I listened how we needed to bomb the Syrian government, and that the President was weak for not doing the same..........No, we have an incredibly strong and intelligent President who has destroyed his enemies..........and he has absolutely destroyed the Republican congress and their sabre rattling after the mid term........as to who is in charge.......Any objective analysis of this President is Hall of fame performances.    Now the chamber of Commerce and Cat are all in for normalization of relations with Cuba.....he is doing things where failure over fifty years never got done.   If you do not see how extraordinary this man is, at least your grandchildren will............

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Boy, the haters won't give President Obama an inch of slack, will they?

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote: He made it clear that he is going to be working for the American people non stop over the last two years.  

Um, didn't he PROMISE that during his first campaign? The very least he could is something more constructive on the down hill run.

Obama hasn't been a total failure but he has been a very weak President, particularly in foreign affairs and in certain domestic issues. He has no coherent foreign policy and lets things happen hoping the problem will go away or at least fall under the public radar enough to be forgotten.

No, Obama isn't a great President or even a decent one; he is weak and overwhelmed as evidenced by the U.S. absence as a strong world leader, the long and pitifully slow economic recovery, and the disappearance of a strong middle class in this country.

He'll be remembered but not as nicely as you think.

boards of FL wrote:
I disagree with you on this.  Here is my case for starters:

Obama inherited the worst nominal budget situation in the history of this country.  Since then, we have seen the fastest deficit reduction since WWII.

Obama inherited the worst economy since the great depression.  As of Q3 2014, our economy is growing at a rate of 3.9% annualized.

Obama inherited a labor market that was shedding over 600,000 jobs per month.  Today, the economy has seen almost 7 million jobs added to the economy and the longest stretch of month-to-month private sector jobs growth in all of US history.

Obama inherited a healthcare system that saw exploding prices and that left 40-50 million Americans uninsured.  Today, healthcare costs are growing at historically low rates and the % of uninsured Americans has plummeted from 18% to 13.4% since the passage of the ACA.

Obama inherited two wars and an at-large bin Laden.  Today, those wars have wound down and bin Laden is no more.



Can you elaborate on your case citing specifically what it is that you take issue with and that leads you to broadly deem this presidency as a failure?

Please proceed, governor...

2seaoat wrote:Record unemployment
Record disdain around the world
Record lack of participation in job market and that
Is NOT related to baby boomers retiring so save
The speech
Record people on welfare (so if we are seeing record employment, why the record welfare rolls?)
Record national debt
Record taxation when people with jobs are struggling
Record being tried by our enemies
Lost AAA credit rating
No budget ever by this POTUS
The world is now a more dangerous place all happening on Obama's watch
Record scandals
Record lack of transparency after saying his admin would be the most transparent ever

What else do you want me to add?

The truth......

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Record unemployment
Record disdain around the world
Record lack of participation in job market and that
Is NOT related to baby boomers retiring so save
The speech
Record people on welfare (so if we are seeing record employment, why the record welfare rolls?)
Record national debt
Record taxation when people with jobs are struggling
Record being tried by our enemies
Lost AAA credit rating
No budget ever by this POTUS
The world is now a more dangerous place all happening on Obama's watch
Record scandals
Record lack of transparency after saying his admin would be the most transparent ever

What else do you want me to add?

The truth......

No, I think he just needs to provide proof of how either John McCain or Mitt Romney would have done it better.

Of course, a Romney presidency would have fallen short on just about every issue Karl listed; nonetheless Karl would have been one of his biggest cheerleaders, regardless of the results.

Edited: In fact, Romney's deficits would have been huge. He was all ready to double-down on already bloated defense spending, and he likely would have started a new and expensive war with Iran.

KarlRove wrote:We are going to end up fighting Iran