COMMUNIST PARTY USA CHEERS PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMAS GUN GRAB

2seaoat wrote:Communism is relevant in America........for what reason? You probably believe the billy goat is responsible for your Cubs continuing to lose.....you need to understand relevant.

2seaoat wrote:Communism is relevant in America........for what reason? You probably believe the billy goat is responsible for your Cubs continuing to lose.....you need to understand relevant.

2seaoat wrote:Again, why is it relevant in America? Are communist going to win an election in America? Are they going to commit terrorist acts and lead a revolution with Americans flocking to their leadership? Really.....you and Chrissy think communism is relevant in modern American Politics......well please keep your night lights on tonight.....the boogie man might get you because you fear the irrelevant and ignore the relevant......but if your goal is simply to make the President look bad......I am sure there are enough stupid people who actually think communism is a relevant topic in America in 2013.....therefore they fall for propaganda 101 where Gobbels mastered associations.........thankfully most people are intelligent.

2seaoat wrote:I fully realize your goal that everyone be equal, as in the Communist Utopia, why don't you just come out and say it?

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

I believe in that......you know those radical revolutionaries that declared independence from the king.....you see if you understand this country you would understand a free people would never choose communism.....your silly innuendo that I am now a communist because I do not bite on your silly focus on the threat of communism in modern America.......really?

2seaoat wrote:Stating the obvious contradicts what? That we now have a communist threat because somehow folks want equal rights and opportunity.....like a Soviet or Korean model of oppression of central control of the individual and economy is going to be a viable threat for political change in America......why.....because some progressives think so......this would be great entertainment if I knew you were tongue in cheek messing with folks......but if you actually think America is threatened by communism.....you need to pop that bubble and join the real world.

2seaoat wrote: It is THEIR choice not to make the most of those opportunities and to avail themselves instead of the money other people EARN.

Yep.....that evil communist plot called taxation.....you know those evil conspirators who serve in our armed service, as police, teachers, and firemen......yep.....they avail themselves to other peoples money.

Just simple silliness........the American people will never implement a communist revolt.....never......now if you want to make a leap of logic that communism equates with progressives and taxation.......well you probably will have a couple of folks who agree that this is a threat.....but in this country government is affirmed every two, four , and six years....so I guess by your definitions the communist have taken over.

2seaoat wrote:"War on Poverty and Great Society destroyed the low income family unit, especially the black family unit and rewarded people for bad behavior instead of good.

Yep.....a great deal of truth, but an equal amount of untruth.....post wwII America had no economic challenger as Europe and Japan were in ashes......so we prospered and actually the initial war on poverty did a pretty good job......but economic dislocation because of lost comparative advantage is entirely another animal in this analysis than cause and effect of lazy people who get a government check, and the logical jump that it is somehow in voters best interests to get something for nothing......nope, the last election was a common sense response to corrupt and brain dead platforms....not some kind of communist revolt.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:"War on Poverty and Great Society destroyed the low income family unit, especially the black family unit and rewarded people for bad behavior instead of good.

Yep.....a great deal of truth, but an equal amount of untruth.....post wwII America had no economic challenger as Europe and Japan were in ashes......so we prospered and actually the initial war on poverty did a pretty good job......but economic dislocation because of lost comparative advantage is entirely another animal in this analysis than cause and effect of lazy people who get a government check, and the logical jump that it is somehow in voters best interests to get something for nothing......nope, the last election was a common sense response to corrupt and brain dead platforms....not some kind of communist revolt.

Our poverty rate is now ABOVE that of when the Great Society and War on Poverty went into affect. That's not winning a battle, that's not even breaking even and we have destroyed a segment of our society by making them dependent on government.

2seaoat wrote:Loss of comparative economic advantage and third world direct competition is a cause of increasing poverty in America....not failed government policies which actually worked pretty good for twenty years, but for the last 30 years the reduction of taxation, the lost factories, and the bleeding jobs because of mistakes in supply side economic policies implemented in this country.....the failure has not been communism, rather the polar opposite....the excess of a capitalist system which went too long unregulated and where capital had more value than labor........nope communism has never been a real threat in America, and certainly not even a political movement for the last 60 years.....again a tempest in a teapot, and your elementary propoganda techniques of association only appeal to very ignorant people.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote: It is THEIR choice not to make the most of those opportunities and to avail themselves instead of the money other people EARN.

Yep.....that evil communist plot called taxation.....you know those evil conspirators who serve in our armed service, as police, teachers, and firemen......yep.....they avail themselves to other peoples money.

Just simple silliness........the American people will never implement a communist revolt.....never......now if you want to make a leap of logic that communism equates with progressives and taxation.......well you probably will have a couple of folks who agree that this is a threat.....but in this country government is affirmed every two, four , and six years....so I guess by your definitions the communist have taken over.

Now you're just being foolish. It isn't taxation. People make choices decades before they pay taxes. Whether to make a joke out of people who go to school and learn or go to school and learn. The Lyndon Johnson "War on Poverty and Great Society destroyed the low income family unit, especially the black family unit and rewarded people for bad behavior instead of good.

It won't be a take over, more and more people will vote for more and more largess for themselves and those who foot the bill and pay the taxes will reduce their production, tax paying and move to other countries.

2seaoat wrote:Loss of comparative economic advantage and third world direct competition is a cause of increasing poverty in America....not failed government policies which actually worked pretty good for twenty years, but for the last 30 years the reduction of taxation, the lost factories, and the bleeding jobs because of mistakes in supply side economic policies implemented in this country.....the failure has not been communism, rather the polar opposite....the excess of a capitalist system which went too long unregulated and where capital had more value than labor........nope communism has never been a real threat in America, and certainly not even a political movement for the last 60 years.....again a tempest in a teapot, and your elementary propoganda techniques of association only appeal to very ignorant people.

Markle wrote:President George Walker Bush tried dozens of times from the time he took office in 2001 to reign in Fannie, Freddie and the exploding housing/mortgage/financial market. Progressives Chris Dodd and Barney Frank and others fought back all efforts claiming it was RACISM to make loans more difficult to secure.

President Bush touted his goal Monday of boosting minority home ownership by 5.5 million before the end of the decade through grants to low-income families and credits to developers.

"Too many American families, too many minorities, do not own a home. There is a home ownership gap in America. The difference between African-American and Hispanic home ownership is too big," Bush told a crowd at St. Paul AME Church in Atlanta.

Citing data he used Saturday in his weekly radio address, Bush said that while nearly three-quarters of white Americans own their homes, less than half of African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans are homeowners.

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He urged Congress to expand the American Dream Down-Payment Fund, which would provide $200 million in grants over five years to low-income families who are first-time home buyers.

The money would be used for down payments, one of the major obstacles to home ownership, Bush said.

It is anticipated that 40,000 low-income families -- receiving about $5,000 each -- would benefit from those grants, he added.

To encourage the construction of single-family homes in neighborhoods where affordable housing is scarce, developers would receive $2.4 billion in tax credits to build lower-cost housing in distressed areas.

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Bush added, "I do believe in the American dream. I believe there is such a thing as the American dream. And I believe those of us who have been given positions of responsibility must do everything we can to spotlight the dream."

He said, "Owning a home is a part of that dream."

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the federal Home Loan Banks -- the government-sponsored corporations that handle home mortgages -- will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion, Bush said.

Under one of the initiatives launched by Freddie Mac, consumers with poor credit will be able to obtain mortgages with interest rates that automatically decline after a period of consistent payments, he added.

When President Bush announced his Minority Homeownership plans last week in Atlanta, his top priorities were new federal programs: a $2.4 billion tax credit to facilitate home purchases by lower-income first-time buyers, and a $200 million national downpayment grant fund.

But none of the new federal programs--if passed by Congress--will come even close to achieving the 5.5 million-household increase in minority homeownership the President set as his target.

Instead, most of the heavy lifting was assigned to two mortgage market players that have sometimes come under fire from Bush administration officials and Congressional Republicans: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Fannie's and Freddie's commitments are the bedrock core of the President's ambitious plans--but didn't get the headlines. Fannie Mae agreed to increase its already substantial lending efforts to minority families by targeting another $260 billion of mortgage purchases to them during the next nine years. Freddie Mac agreed to buy an additional $180 billion in minority-household home loans during the same period.

2seaoat wrote:I fully realize your goal that everyone be equal, as in the Communist Utopia, why don't you just come out and say it?

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

I believe in that......you know those radical revolutionaries that declared independence from the king.....you see if you understand this country you would understand a free people would never choose communism.....your silly innuendo that I am now a communist because I do not bite on your silly focus on the threat of communism in modern America.......really?

Markle wrote:

Hard as it is for Progressives to read the Constitution. I have highlighted a part Progressives ignore. "All men are created equal". NO WHERE in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution are ANY OF US guaranteed OUTCOME.

It really is that simple.