NIMBY whine

http://www.pnj.com/article/20140314/NEWS01/303140027/Citizens-voice-displeasure-over-North-Hill-DOJ-office


These folks need to get a life.

No they don't.... Want a parole office in your neighborhood? And it's zoned against it already....

There ought to be a zillion blighted areas in Pcola where this can go.... Not in the middle of a neighborhood.

Too many of the criminals in the county, that should be in jail, get probation. Charges are reduced and repeat offenders get a slap on the wrist. It is a money maker for the county...

I'm sure you wouldn't be happy with the increased worrry because of the influx of sex offenders and convicted criminals wandering through your grandchildrens neighborhood, while checking in and hanging out at the county facility.

North Hill was once the epicenter of Pensacola.  People who built on high ground before it was fashionable to build in a flood plain.  The area was home to the New Medical center, PK young School, A&P Grocery store and many other nice places.  Go to Google maps and check out the houses in the area.  Many were built by the Doctors, lawyers and other successful people who made Pensacola a great place to live.  To this day the area still has class and due to  strict Preservation  guidelines it has stayed above the curve for being a good place to live.  But due to the influx of those who do not care or choose not to understand the history of Pensacola it is now under duress.

North Hill sits on a ridge of high land overlooking historic downtown Pensacola. Its history is rich, from battlefield to preservation district, and all points in between.

In the late 19th century the city of Pensacola was flourishing due to a booming lumber industry. High-end well-built homes soon took hold on the hill, conveniently located to downtown.

Today, North Hill remains a desired neighborhood of sturdy, architecturally detailed homes, which exudes the history and pride of its great working port. Stately old homes line the streets which feel of another time with preserved architecture and loyal community. Some original families still own these cherished homes, while others invite new owners who have restored them to their original splendor.

Well the spot is on Palafox and not IN the residential area. Seems to me they could use some other county property for this. Hate to see the old Coca Cola building used this way. Fond memories of those Coca Cola bottles going around on the conveyor belt. They could be seen in the front window.

And since these are parolees, no crime on their minds? Trying to get back into the mainstream of life? That's the rose colored glasses so I do know that's not always the case and the crime rate/jail overpopulation is astounding. Probably quite a few hardened criminal minds on parole.

We spend so much time and money on criminals while law abiding citizens go without. Upside down world for sure.

Sorry, Seaoat, but this isn't NIMBY...I don't know who this person (Nathan Head) is, but I'm with the North Hill residents on this one...and I don't give a damn how much money he's invested in the old bottling plant...shouldn't have started without approval from the citizens. I smell a rat.

I used to do Business with Sunbelt Ind, who moved into the old Coca Cola plant. They said they tried to find some one to take all the old bottling equipment and such but they had no luck so they scrapped almost all of it.
Yep  A Cola Cola plant tour was a must do for every elementary school.

Triva...  There are no flat spots, window sills, ledges to sit anything on in the building.  They are all sloped or very small as not to hold a Coke Bottle.
The sandstone Cola Cola reliefs build into the building were reported to be valved at over 50,000 dollars but removing them was the issue.  

Nostalgic or whatever you want to call it...hate to see this building not used as something that adds to the area. Where's Mr. Studer?

Sorry, but the zoning was correct, and utilizing a building will make sure that the building is maintained and it is a gem. I think the guy had it right....a lynch mob.

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Too many of the criminals in the county, that should be in jail, get probation. 

Are you fucking crazy??


The prison population in this country has exploded by like 800% over the last three decades, while the rate of violent crimes has steadily declined. 


This is a massive industry. 


We are incarceration nation. 

So, you live in South Florida and keep up with the judicial system in Escambia County.

One more time....in Escambia and SRC too many criminals get reduced charges. Many of these criminals are repeat offenders. Felony charges are reduced to misdemeanors by the SA.

I used to stay at the days Inn for Pelican Drop so we could drink and not drive. About a block away from this site. All I can say is you have to be kidding me. Palafox and the 90 intersection are off the wall busy, and there are already plenty of undesirable walking the street(I should know.....we were walking downtown down the hill....tougher walk after drinking up the hill), and there are commercially zoned properties everywhere.

I would understand this if the location was off Palafox and a bit west, or Southwest, but it is an industrial bottling plant on a major artery of the city. Public transportation is nearby and the building has parking.......what part of a perfect fit does somebody not get. I find it funny that the folks who are staying at the days inn do not bother them.......really dangerous transients.

Maybe you also noticed the Jewish synagogue?


Yes, they looked like they got the short end of the stick with the widening of the road and the new bridge. A lawyer was remodeling a cool old building across the street from the synagogue, and of course the Baptist Church a bit down the hill. I did some of my closings at the reliable title which is next to the historical markers which always get vandalized, and the oaks are magnificent, but really the site is perfect for state offices.

Seaoat Is confused about where the building is in relation to the Days Inn. Another case of apples and oranges.

You are correct, instead of saying ABOUT a block, I should have said four blocks, but I did not remember how close it was to the intersection, but goodness it is right on Palafox and it is an industrial building, and the zoning is correct.

Nope..... More than 4 blocks.

six blocks......geez, I should have gone to the map first before saying about.

Days Inn is in the 800 block and the plant is in the 1600 block.

http://historicnorthhill.com/2014/03/08/alert-important-city-council-meeting/

"...The Coca-Cola Building is NOT zoned for such a use. It is zoned C-3 and R-1AAA (front is commercial/back portion of the property is single-family residential) The zoning districts of our City’s Municipal Code restrict these facilities to the M-1 and/or M-2 Industrial Districts. The CURRENT Probation and Parole office is located at 3101 North Davis Highway and it is IN the correct zoning district. The State intends to combine and co-locate ALL of the county’s Parole offices into our neighborhood, with estimates of 8,000 or more offenders coming to this office according to their website’s statistics for last years’ numbers.

If City Codes were followed, this project would REMAIN in the correct zoning district of M-1, Light Industrial and would not be adjacent to any residential neighborhood.

The City’s Inspections Department has issued the owner of the property the required permits for the renovations and the State expects to begin their 7-year lease as of April 1st (you can’t make this stuff up). No Public Hearing for this use was conducted as required by State Statute. The Planning Department’s stance is that it is just another office, which the zoning allows. We strongly disagree and point to the section of the code that expressly states where these facilities are allowed, which is the M-1 Industrial Zone. We are urging the City and State to READ their codes and follow the law..."

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