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So I guess you saw where Seaoat compared Teo to a child molester. Just to be clear--you're on board with this as well?

Intellectual discussions require a threshold of intelligence. If a person cannot understand an analogy and then misinterprets the same either intentionally, or because of a lack of intelligence, I cannot help that person. When BP was on this forum he espoused hateful prejudice. My analogy was that a child molester who posted filth and sick depictions would be challenged, yet when nazi propaganda is regularly posted on this forum, it is rarely challenged. T posts regularly from Nazi sites horrible prejudice and hate which I have implored him for years to keep that dark side in a closet. Yet, when I make an analogy which most intelligent people can understand, you jump to the illogical conclusion that it is the person, not the filth that the analogy addresses. If that is your level of analysis, I certainly cannot change your perception, and perhaps I assumed too much.

It is never fair to compare a man to a child molester unless there is some compelling evidence that the man has committed acts similar or the same as a child molester.  If there is anything worse than a Nazi, it's a child molester.

If that is your level of analysis, I certainly cannot change your perception, and perhaps I assumed too much.

Allways the same...What a condescending statement ie You are just too stupid to understand my perfect logic. Damn!!! What A guy!!!.

That was while he was still groping for a blunt object to retaliate for the cancer face. He's now found it.

Retaliate is an interesting concept. It assumes a wrong has been committed against me as a basis for my actions. I am not a person of color. I am not jew. I am not a hispanic. The hateful spews of Nazi ideology which is tolerated on this forum and often goes unchallenged does not require a retaliation from me. It simply requires that a person of good character challenges lies, deception, hate and prejudice. It is really that simple. It is interesting how rarely I have used the word, and the emotional response it evokes, and the assumption that I am emotional in the use of the term which encompasses a ideological concept. It is simply a fact that for six years we have endured the tenets of Nazi ideology from many posters, most have left, and I challenge the content of one poster, and I am retaliating. Interesting concept.

So I guess you saw where Seaoat compared Teo to a child molester.  Just to be clear--you're on board with this as well?

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No sir I do not condone that statement.  What I am on board with is a  civic responsibility Oats feels to confront those who espouse bringing down our entire government because of their own convictions/fears/political stripes.  On this topic there are others whose beliefs are dangerous to the stability of our nation . . . . I support working within the system but not undermine our government and some want exactly that.

It is never fair to compare a man to a child molester unless there is some compelling evidence that the man has committed acts similar or the same as a child molester. If there is anything worse than a Nazi, it's a child molester.


Still do not get it. Hallmark thinks I am being condescending, yet for a second time you separate the concept of the filth being spread on this forum, and want to jump to the messenger. You are right Hallmark. I am condescending. Just cannot figure out why I am.

2seaoat wrote:So I guess you saw where Seaoat compared Teo to a child molester.  Just to be clear--you're on board with this as well?

Intellectual discussions require a threshold of intelligence.  If a person cannot understand an analogy and then misinterprets the same either intentionally, or because of a lack of intelligence, I cannot help that person.  When BP was on this forum he espoused hateful prejudice.  My analogy was that a child molester who posted filth and sick depictions would be challenged, yet when nazi propaganda is regularly posted on this forum, it is rarely challenged.  T posts regularly from Nazi sites horrible prejudice and hate which I have implored him for years to keep that dark side in a closet.  Yet, when I make an analogy which most intelligent people can understand, you jump to the illogical conclusion that it is the person, not the filth that the analogy addresses.   If that is your level of analysis, I certainly cannot change your perception, and perhaps I assumed too much.

You can call me stupid all day and all night but what you actually said is that Teo's post are as offensive as if someone posted child porn.

Neko is quite comfortable with Nazi ideology. She said it made her often uncomfortable, but it was a "normal" T post. So when I suggest that diddling children for sexual gratification is not normal, and posting the same on a forum would be completely unacceptable. Some think spewing nazi hate material on a forum for year is acceptable and normal. That the content of nazi ideology is so much better than child pornography.......the horror to comparing a nazi to a child pornographer, where both get gratification from the most horrible things and attempt to exploit the vulnerable. Certainly, we would all sit in silence as people posted child pornography. Not one of us would challenge the same, yet like the oft repeated historical context, this forum sits in silence when the poison spews....not once or twice, but in darker moments daily. Make it all about the messenger.....ignore the content....ignore truth.......tacitly accept evil.

Teo's post are as offensive as if someone posted child porn.

See.....that was not that difficult to discuss the truth and admit that I was talking about the content of posts. We make progress with small steps.

2seaoat wrote:It is never fair to compare a man to a child molester unless there is some compelling evidence that the man has committed acts similar or the same as a child molester.  If there is anything worse than a Nazi, it's a child molester.


Still do not get it.  Hallmark thinks I am being condescending, yet for a second time you separate the concept of the filth being spread on this forum, and want to jump to the messenger.  You are right Hallmark.  I am condescending.  Just cannot figure out why I am.

I am simple minded, but I get it. You are the one smearing another forum member by comparing him to a child pornographer/child molester.  You think that you are smarter than me and that I am simple minded, and you are right-- I am not as smart or knowledgeable as you are in many areas.  My mind and thinking are simple in many areas.  But I know evil when I see it, and comparing a man to a child pornographer/child molester is evil unless you have evidence to back it up.  You can call it an analogy all day long but child pornography is illegal, evil, and it destroys the innocence and well being of children.   Teo ranting about Jews and chemo in some of his posts on a chat forum is not evidence to back up that his postings are as bad and offensive as child pornography.  Not by a long shot.  Your tactic in following Teo around the forum and harassing him while trying to get everyone on board with ostracizing him and demonizing him sounds very much like a tactic of -- Nazis.  If you don't like some of his posts, then challenge him on those posts that you disagree with--as others have done.

2seaoat wrote:Neko is quite comfortable with Nazi ideology.  She said it made her often uncomfortable, but it was a "normal" T post.   So when I suggest that diddling children for sexual gratification is not normal, and posting the same on a forum would be completely unacceptable.   Some think spewing nazi hate material on a forum for year is acceptable and normal.  That the content of nazi ideology is so much better than child pornography.......the horror to comparing a nazi to a child pornographer, where both get gratification from the most horrible things and attempt to exploit the vulnerable.   Certainly, we would all sit in silence as people posted child pornography.  Not one of us would challenge the same, yet like the oft repeated historical context, this forum sits in silence when the poison spews....not once or twice, but in darker moments daily.  Make it all about the messenger.....ignore the content....ignore truth.......tacitly accept evil.

Oh no, you don't lie about what I said.  When Dreams said that Teo purposely posted the chemo thread /links to cancer pictures to hurt you, I replied that Teo's anti medical posts--like the chemo one-- are normal for Teo and I didn't think he aimed it at hurting any member here.

2seaoat wrote:Teo's post are as offensive as if someone posted child porn.

See.....that was not that difficult to discuss the truth and admit that I was talking about the content of posts. We make progress with small steps.

You've never hesitated to assign positions and beliefs to those that disagree with you. That progress is in your mind.

I see nothing new in this exchange... it fits the pattern.

2seaoat wrote:Teo's post are as offensive as if someone posted child porn.

See.....that was not that difficult to discuss the truth and admit that I was talking about the content of posts.   We make progress with small steps.

You're walking backwards.

I do not need to get everybody on board to fight nazi ideology. The truth simply does that. The tapestry of nazi ideology is racial, religious, anti democratic, anti science, and anti equality. To the extent you fail to understand the analogy, right after you corrected yourself, has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with conscious choice. You have made that conscious choice by somehow marginalizing those who have concerns about the harm of hate and prejudice and the ever present danger of nazi ideology.
Please note, on none offensive threads I stay in character of jolly old seaoat, and do not challenge a thing. That would be inappropriate and that most certainly would be wrong. What I am doing is right, and long overdue.

2seaoat wrote:I do not need to get everybody on board to fight nazi ideology.   The truth simply does that.   The tapestry of nazi ideology is racial, religious, anti democratic, anti science, and anti equality.  To the extent you fail to understand the analogy, right after you corrected yourself, has nothing to do with intelligence.  It has to do with conscious choice.  You have made that conscious choice by somehow marginalizing those who have concerns about the harm of hate and prejudice and the ever present danger of nazi ideology.
Please note, on none offensive threads I stay in character of jolly old seaoat, and do not challenge a thing.  That would be inappropriate and that most certainly would be wrong.   What I am doing is right, and long overdue.

I didn't correct myself about anything.  You compared Teo's postings to child pornography.  Now on here, you outright lied about my post in response to Dreams. I never once supported Teo's postings about Jews or said anything of the kind.   I said that Teo has always posted anti-medical type stuff and that I didn't think he posted the chemo thread to personally hurt anyone.  That is where all of this started...with Teo's chemo thread. 

You are the one who needs correcting.

You've never hesitated to assign positions and beliefs to those that disagree with you.

Is there any other method. Are we to walk into some magical place where what we say and believe have no meaning? Certainly, an assignment can be misplaced, but with further discussion the reveal usually is obvious. I certainly have been assigned positions and beliefs, but the same does not necessarily reflect reality.....that is where the continued discussion provides the reveal. The reveal on this subject has been obvious for years.

You are the one who needs correcting.

Nothing new here. I guess the use of the word normal was never used by you. We have established that posting about child pornography is abnormal, now we just need clarification why posting about nazi ideology is normal and acceptable......even though it does make you a bit uncomfortable. Because certainly it is illogical to compare the abnormal behavior of allowing somebody to post child pornography on this forum unchallenged and allowing normal nazi material to go unchallenged.

knothead wrote:So I guess you saw where Seaoat compared Teo to a child molester.  Just to be clear--you're on board with this as well?

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No sir I do not condone that statement.  What I am on board with is a  civic responsibility Oats feels to confront those who espouse bringing down our entire government because of their own convictions/fears/political stripes.  On this topic there are others whose beliefs are dangerous to the stability of our nation . . . . I support working within the system but not undermine our government and some want exactly that.

Thank you.  I'm glad to hear that. 
Now, do you see where Seaoat is trying to smear me, saying that I am comfortable with Nazi ideology?  I never said any such thing.  My comment to Dreams was in reference to a cancer thread that Teo posted and it had nothing to do with Nazis.   I don't like Nazis.  Like I said the other day, my daddy killed lots of Nazis.  And my daddy was a war hero as far as I am concerned.

2seaoat wrote:You are the one who needs correcting.

Nothing new here.   I guess the use of the word normal was never used by you.  We have established that posting about child pornography is abnormal, now we just need clarification why posting about nazi ideology is normal and acceptable......even though it does make you a bit uncomfortable.  Because certainly it is illogical to compare the abnormal behavior of allowing somebody to post child pornography on this forum unchallenged and allowing normal nazi material to go unchallenged.

I said that Teo's anti-medical threads are something that he has posted for years and are normal type posts of his, and not something that I believe he posted to hurt a particular forum member. Anyone can go back and look at what I posted and if I ever posted anything saying or suggesting that I am comfortable with Nazi ideology or that I like Nazi ideology then you or someone else on here can show me my words as I said them.  Otherwise, stop lying about what I said.

This is part of the conversation that I had with Dreams.  It was about Teo's Chemo thread and about the pictures of a woman with cancer that he gave a link to.  I didn't say a damn thing in support of Nazi ideology.  My posts are in blue. Dreams post is in black.

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Nekochan wrote:Teo posted a thread about chemo, with links to pictures.  He said what the pictures were about.  No one here had to click on his thread and no one had to click on the link to his pictures.   If you saw the pictures, it's because you wanted to and made an effort to see them.

That has no relevance to him doing that. He clearly had an intent.

With the way Teo has always posted these types of threads, I don't see any intent any more than he's ever had.   It was a normal Teo  kind of thread.  He's posted these type threads for years.

Thank you for having the integrity to post your words as you had written them and as I have referenced. Its a normal Teo kind of thread. Yep, and you correctly discussed the frequency. There is nothing normal about blaming the jews for everything. There is nothing normal about posting racial poison, and hate against poor immigrants. There is nothing normal about wanting America destroyed. There is nothing normal about excusing and rationalizing what the Nazis did, and them blaming Ike as a mass murderer. Those "normal" threads need to be challenged. I have made it clear that I will challenge the same, and I do not share the belief that Nazi propaganda is normal or acceptable. I love America. I love democracy and the tenets that all men are created equal. I believe that good will prevail over evil, and that Nazis are evil. I will not accept nazi threads as normal.

2seaoat wrote:Thank you for having the integrity to post your words as you had written them and as I have referenced.  Its a normal Teo kind of thread.   Yep, and you correctly discussed the frequency.   There is nothing normal about blaming the jews for everything.   There is nothing normal about posting racial poison, and hate against poor immigrants.   There is nothing normal about wanting America destroyed.   There is nothing normal about excusing and rationalizing what the Nazis did, and them blaming Ike as a mass murderer.   Those "normal" threads need to be challenged.  I have made it clear that I will challenge the same, and I do not share the belief that Nazi propaganda is normal or acceptable.  I love America.  I love democracy and the tenets that all men are created equal.  I believe that good will prevail over evil, and that Nazis are evil.   I will not accept nazi threads as normal.

You need to correct what you said about my posts.  You were wrong.

Man up, Seaoat, and admit that you posted incorrectly about what I said.

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