http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/20/coal-cleanest-energy-source-there-is/
That's pretty innovative.
That's pretty innovative.
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Bob wrote:If it's all they say it is it sounds very promising.
But Rush Limbaugh wouldn't care about it because he's convinced putting CO2 into the atmosphere has nothing to do with climate change or anything else bad. He would say these are "environmental wackos" too. lol
Bob wrote:You or I neither one know what the truth is about climate change, markel. The "science" has now been so politicized that it's impossible for us to tell the bullshit from the actual science. About the only thing that's certain is the truth is never going to come from listening to the gores or the limbaughs or whichever other politicians or pundits you're listening to. All they do is tell you what you want to hear.
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Bob,
This guy KNOWS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
Well obviously, EITHER the fat cat limousine liberal gore is a lying son of a bitch.Sage wrote:man made climate change is a lie
VectorMan wrote:I think whatever we can do to pollute less is a good thing. Within reason.
Al Gore being the slimy little eel that he is, makes me question anything he supports and make millions upon millions of dollars from.
When there are qualified scientists that dispute global warming/climate change, it makes think the scientists at the UN have a hidden agenda. Then they cooked the numbers in their report. Very fishy behavior.
Hey Bob, I have to tell you. I'd believe Rush any day of the week over Gore. LOL
VectorMan wrote:
Hey Bob, I have to tell you. I'd believe Rush any day of the week over Gore.
Bob wrote:VectorMan wrote:
Hey Bob, I have to tell you. I'd believe Rush any day of the week over Gore.
If either one of em told me the sun was gonna set in the west, I'd have to look east just to make sure.
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I can't jump on the climate change bandwagon, either. Especially when many climate-change advocates demand immediate cessation/curtailment of the use of fossil fuels and over-reaching regulations on greenhouse gasses that would be costly to every citizen.
In the modern world, 10 calories of fossil fuels go into every food calorie consumed by an American. If the climate change weenies ever had their way, there would be food shortages in America and a great reduction in the standard of living for all citizens. Not how I would like to see things happen.
Now, I am all for alternative energy, and the expansion of green technologies. They definitely have a place in our world, especially as the cheap and easy oil and coal resources are used up.
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I can't jump on the climate change bandwagon, either. Especially when many climate-change advocates demand immediate cessation/curtailment of the use of fossil fuels and over-reaching regulations on greenhouse gasses that would be costly to every citizen.
In the modern world, 10 calories of fossil fuels go into every food calorie consumed by an American. If the climate change weenies ever had their way, there would be food shortages in America and a great reduction in the standard of living for all citizens. Not how I would like to see things happen.
Now, I am all for alternative energy, and the expansion of green technologies. They definitely have a place in our world, especially as the cheap and easy oil and coal resources are used up.
Sal wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I can't jump on the climate change bandwagon, either. Especially when many climate-change advocates demand immediate cessation/curtailment of the use of fossil fuels and over-reaching regulations on greenhouse gasses that would be costly to every citizen.
In the modern world, 10 calories of fossil fuels go into every food calorie consumed by an American. If the climate change weenies ever had their way, there would be food shortages in America and a great reduction in the standard of living for all citizens. Not how I would like to see things happen.
Now, I am all for alternative energy, and the expansion of green technologies. They definitely have a place in our world, especially as the cheap and easy oil and coal resources are used up.
That's all well and good, and I would agree there has to be an extended transition away from fossil fuels.
To suggest, however, that there is not a scientific consensus that the atmosphere is warming and that the activities of humans are contributing and accelerating it, is patently false.
Despite the occasional crank or oil company financed hack, scientific consensus on this issue has been achieved.
VectorMan wrote:Sal wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I can't jump on the climate change bandwagon, either. Especially when many climate-change advocates demand immediate cessation/curtailment of the use of fossil fuels and over-reaching regulations on greenhouse gasses that would be costly to every citizen.
In the modern world, 10 calories of fossil fuels go into every food calorie consumed by an American. If the climate change weenies ever had their way, there would be food shortages in America and a great reduction in the standard of living for all citizens. Not how I would like to see things happen.
Now, I am all for alternative energy, and the expansion of green technologies. They definitely have a place in our world, especially as the cheap and easy oil and coal resources are used up.
That's all well and good, and I would agree there has to be an extended transition away from fossil fuels.
To suggest, however, that there is not a scientific consensus that the atmosphere is warming and that the activities of humans are contributing and accelerating it, is patently false.
Despite the occasional crank or oil company financed hack, scientific consensus on this issue has been achieved.
No, not really.
Bob wrote:One of you is 100% convinced that manmade climate change is true.
The other is 100% convinced that manmade climate change is false.
So here's your homework. I want you both to find me UNBIASED sources to substantiate your claim. And by unbiased I mean nothing that is associated with either the democrat or republican parties or associated with democrat or republican politicians or associated with democrat or republican media bloviators.
I want you both to give me sources which can convince me those sources have absolutely no agenda whatsoever OTHER than telling me the truth (and frankly I don't even believe any such sources exist).
That is your mission should you choose to accept it. This message will self-destruct (maybe not in ten seconds but mostly when it moves off the front page).
Until you can do that, I will still be fence-sitting in the far-middle with an IQ less than that of a toaster.
Sal wrote:VectorMan wrote:Sal wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I can't jump on the climate change bandwagon, either. Especially when many climate-change advocates demand immediate cessation/curtailment of the use of fossil fuels and over-reaching regulations on greenhouse gasses that would be costly to every citizen.
In the modern world, 10 calories of fossil fuels go into every food calorie consumed by an American. If the climate change weenies ever had their way, there would be food shortages in America and a great reduction in the standard of living for all citizens. Not how I would like to see things happen.
Now, I am all for alternative energy, and the expansion of green technologies. They definitely have a place in our world, especially as the cheap and easy oil and coal resources are used up.
That's all well and good, and I would agree there has to be an extended transition away from fossil fuels.
To suggest, however, that there is not a scientific consensus that the atmosphere is warming and that the activities of humans are contributing and accelerating it, is patently false.
Despite the occasional crank or oil company financed hack, scientific consensus on this issue has been achieved.
No, not really.
Yes, really.
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