PBulldog2 wrote:
I'll grant you that malpractice insurance (private, of course - and quite the profit-maker) is one reason health care costs have risen. I don't know if you're a sock or not, but I've written that many times over the years on these forums.
Nope not sock so i don't have the knowledge of your years of support for anything.
PBulldog2 wrote:
Malpractice is all about profit too, you see, from the insurance companies to the attorneys who specialize in those cases. Yes, they are a large part of the problem. Tort reform is not only necessary but crucial, but it will continue to be ignored due to the large lobbying efforts by both groups (attorney and private insurance providers.)
and the millions of people abuse it for years. But the other big problem is not just the numbers of malpractice lawsuits, but the enormous amounts of money which these people get in jury trials, and the millions that they get in settlements. And yes they the companies are in it to make a profit but they are the ones who are making sure that the doctors can continue to work without having their medical careers destroyed but frivolous suits or suits brought by people when the doctor has not actually committed malpractice but the person still suffered from the worst possible or even death and the family targets the individual.
PBulldog2 wrote:
I don't know where you got the notion that my support of universal health care is about me, or that I will ever cry about what the rich have and I don't, other than my support of OWS in the past. Yeah - you betcha - I think the companies involved in the mortgage scam, from the big bankers and AIG on down, need to do some serious prison time for their involvement, but that won't happen, either, for the same reasons I stated above. Lobbying groups for the bankers and private insurers like AIG.
As long as the large lobbying groups as well as corporations are allowed to buy our legislators, nothing much will change.
My support of universal health care - i.e., "Medicare for all" - doesn't have much to do with me. It won't be long until I'll be eligible for Medicare again. My support has to do with the fact that I don't want the legions of younger people in our country to ever have to go without decent access to comprehensive health care. Obamacare will not provide this, so I'm speculating it won't be too many years until universal health care becomes the standard.
You're wrong about a national health care plan not providing good health insurance. Medicare coverage, by and large, is excellent, although the prescription plan needs some tweaking. During the years I had Medicare, I was never "denied" a life-saving procedure or anything else, except for the medications I needed when I was in the doughnut hole. I never had to wait in line for any treatment or appointment.
OWS?
and not touching the banker issue even though i agree with you there its a separate topic and whole different bag of worms.
as far as Medicare that is good that you didn't have to go for some of the more lifesaving treatments but just because you didn't doesn't mean that others don't.
And finally yes Obama care is a pathway to universal health care by trying to further attack the entire healthcare industry. and people are not being denied the ability to get decent health care as it has been out there and available its just been a matter of what people are willing to choose what to get. My own sister never could "afford" her health insurance for her and her husband, but they can afford to trade in their vehicle and get a new one as well as several other luxuries. it comes down to people choose and enjoy other things then get upset when they have to deal with the consequences of their actions.
PBulldog2 wrote:I can't speak to reimbursements for physicians or hospital by Medicare and Medicaid, except for the known fact that patients with Medicaid have a helluva time getting an appointment with a physician. That will need to change, and it would change if we had a national health care system. Any national health care plan we would ever have would be under continual review for necessary changes, just as Medicare and Medicaid are today.
If you want to read about financing a national health care plan, go to pnhp.org. That's Physicians for a National Healthcare Plan. I've been a member for some 15 years, so my continuing advocacy for universal health care is not a new thing. Then again, I expect you are a sock, so you already know this.
So you want to force all physicians to take this ridiculous plan huh.. well we will have to disagree i think that physicians in this country should have the right and currently do about who if anyone they will take as a patient. And if they are having problems now how can you not see it being an even bigger problem with the federal government taking it over. i read there reports and i don't see how they can state some o fit. Do you honesty think that the federal government,
THE U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, will be cheaper private companies.
and do you even think that the 4th principle will be the public or the government as it is now in every other country with this type of system?
You can believe in the Utopian ideal for medical coverage i will believe that it will turn into a disaster and see the countless problems and lives that will be lost in this a further attempt for the federal government to grab power and take more of the private industry away.
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--haha I have legal status --that is the diff---yea im dissing -dirt is free --anyone could do what I do so I say get to work---the ones who cant work period---I have no problem with those getting food stamps--I dont even need permits ---now go dream up something else
