Another road rage shooting

boards of FL wrote:

Alcohol in those days came from hidden stills. Are outlaws fabricating their own guns in garages somewhere?

Bob wrote:Will, you're a very smart guy. Are you telling me that all you know about Prohibition is moonshiners with stills in the woods? Honest to God? Or are you pulling my leg? Jesus.

boards of FL wrote:

Bob wrote:Will, you're a very smart guy. Are you telling me that all you know about Prohibition is moonshiners with stills in the woods? Honest to God? Or are you pulling my leg? Jesus.

Not at all. Help educate me. Where did alcohol come from during the prohibition era?

Bob wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Bob wrote:Will, you're a very smart guy. Are you telling me that all you know about Prohibition is moonshiners with stills in the woods? Honest to God? Or are you pulling my leg? Jesus.

Not at all. Help educate me. Where did alcohol come from during the prohibition era?

Rackeeters. Mobsters. Crime lords. Organized criminals. Al Capone manufactured and sold as much alcohol as Jack Daniels. lol

boards of FL wrote:

But where did it come from? You are describing the people who ran it. It had to be created somewhere, right? Don't you watch Boardwalk Empire?

Bob wrote:Jesus. We cross-posted the same thing. Except you used it to try to make the opposite point. This is so surreal.

But to answer your question, yes I absolutely do watch Boardwalk Empire. And there was more alcohol in Atlantic City when alcohol was illegal as when it was legal. Doesn't that tell you anything?

Bob wrote:

I originally asked "Where do outlaws get their guns?" because I was trying to imply that many get them from legal gun owners. And when I say "outlaws", I'm not referring to some highbrow crime boss, but rather, people like the guy in the article from the original post, or people like Lanza. The number of guns in the hands of unstable nut-jobs is likely a direct function of the number of legal, privately owned guns in the US.

Bob wrote:If I didn't already have a gun, and guns are made illegal, I would buy one illegally. Same as I would a bottle of alcohol.
And I represent so many in the population that there is never going to be enough political will to attempt to make either illegal anyway. Game over.
Simple as that.

boards of FL wrote:

Bob wrote:If I didn't already have a gun, and guns are made illegal, I would buy one illegally. Same as I would a bottle of alcohol.
And I represent so many in the population that there is never going to be enough political will to attempt to make either illegal anyway. Game over.
Simple as that.

I don't endorse making all guns illegal. I would like to see some form of strict liability applied to assault rifles.

Bob wrote:Pushing guns underground will result in EXACTLY the same thing, Will.
Alcohol and guns are a bedrock part of our culture. As wonderful and smart as Obama and Paloosi are, even they are not wonderful and smart enough to change that. I know that's hard for you to believe, but it's the truth, Will. lol

Bob wrote:There's an easy solution to crimes like this. Just start giving maggots like this life imprisonment. There is ABSOLUTELY NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER TO NOT DO THAT. When someone starts firing guns because of "road rage", I DO NOT want that animal to be free. Ever. And I defy anyone to tell me why he should be.
And if you don't want to house and feed these shitheads in jail forever then neither do I. I guarangoddamntee you if you start putting them away for life then it won't be very long at all until that will deter most everyone from doing this so you won't have to pay for their imprisonment.

The problem is though, that the liberals who want to ban guns are also the very same ones who would adamantly oppose doing this. And that's why it won't happen. Instead they'll keep squawking about banning guns.

W_T_M wrote:

Bob wrote:Pushing guns underground will result in EXACTLY the same thing, Will.
Alcohol and guns are a bedrock part of our culture. As wonderful and smart as Obama and Paloosi are, even they are not wonderful and smart enough to change that. I know that's hard for you to believe, but it's the truth, Will. lol

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The only problem with your argument is that there are a hell of a lot of folk who drunk alcohol who do not own, nor wish to own a firearm.

However, prohibition will not work. Legal moratorium on further production of certain weapons would impact the situation, as would the banning of gun shows.

A lot of the guns in illegal circulation are purchased at gun shows and transported to places w/ strict gun laws where they are a valuable commodity. Another source is obvious....theft, which makes it already a law enforcement issue.

One of the biggest mistakes the gun industry makes is the resistance to background checks. It takes more time and paperwork to buy a car.

What's wrong with that picture...? A common rant on these gun threads is that we have to keep the weapons out of the hands of mentally defective folk. Background checks would help in that aspect of this never gonna be solved problem.

nochain wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Bob wrote:If I didn't already have a gun, and guns are made illegal, I would buy one illegally. Same as I would a bottle of alcohol.
And I represent so many in the population that there is never going to be enough political will to attempt to make either illegal anyway. Game over.
Simple as that.

I don't endorse making all guns illegal. I would like to see some form of strict liability applied to assault rifles.

An assault rifle is generally defined as a weapon with a selectable rate of fire such as fully automatic or burst (usually 3 shot if my memory is correct on the M-16 I used to lug around). The stolen weapon used in this latest massacre by the coward Lanza can better be classified as a "sport rifle" since he had to pull the trigger each time to make a shot. I really don't see the difference between that weapon and a semi-automatic shotgun for example except for magazine capacity. Since federal regulations are already strict on automatic weapons perhaps the only solution is to go back to limits on how many rounds a magazine can hold. That said, I really don't see the purpose behind owning an AR or Bushmaster......

W_T_M wrote:What's it gonna take Sue...?

You tell me what I have to do to stop your petty BS, following me around and attacking every freaking thing I post...?

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Probably when you stop making idiotic posts that you know nothing about, such as taking longer to buy a car than a guy..