FOR NEKOCHAN: One of the most prominent conservative republican voices in America calls Romney's remarks "stupid and arrogant".

Nekochan wrote:

Yella wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Yella, Romney's accounting firm gave a notarized statement with a summary of 20 years of the Romneys' taxes. Romney's average rate over 20 years was around 20% with a low of around 13%.

Here's a pretty good article explaining why there are different rates for different types of income. From Slate, not exactly a right wing source. Of course, if all that matters to someone is seeing 10 years of Romney's tax returns, I very much doubt they'd vote for him, anyway. I think that the people hollering about Romney's taxes would never vote for him, regardless.

Why Mitt Romney's Effective Tax Rate Is So Low And Why It Probably Should Be

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/09/21/mitt_romney_s_effective_tax_rate_is_very_low_most_economists_think_it_should_be_.html

Neko, I still would like to see something more definitive.

Yella, what I think is that you would never vote for Romney, regardless. The whole damn world is falling apart. Frankly, I don't care what Romney OR Obama paid in taxes 10 years ago. I don't even care where Obama was born. If he were doing a good job as President, none of that would matter. He's not doing a good job and it still doesn't matter.

Nekochan wrote:Yella, Romney's accounting firm gave a notarized statement with a summary of 20 years of the Romneys' taxes. Romney's average rate over 20 years was around 20% with a low of around 13%.

Dreamsglore wrote:

PkrBum wrote:i think she paid a higher percentage as tax... so did i... although in total obama and romney paid much more.

isn't that the rationalized propaganda that the left uses to say that the wealthy don't pay their fair share?

In order for her to do that she would have to make close to that salary.You can't be serious in thinking she would be making that much money working as a medical technologist. I mean seriously.

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Yella, Romney's accounting firm gave a notarized statement with a summary of 20 years of the Romneys' taxes. Romney's average rate over 20 years was around 20% with a low of around 13%.

Give me a fucking break, Neko. A notarized letter from Price Waterhouse saying what Willard's tax rate was over the last ten years is worth the toilet paper I used earlier today. Actually, I could get Price Waterhouse to notarize that used toilet paper as long as I signed it in front of the notary. What a joke. Until an independent tax expert looks at Willard’s taxes and calculates the effective tax rate, we don’t have any idea what Mitt paid in taxes those years. Get a clue.

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

Hey, you're the one giving credence to a "notarized statement". That says everything that needs to be said about your cluelessness. You have no idea if Romney paid what he owed, and you don't care because he has an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters to you.

PkrBum wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

PkrBum wrote:i think she paid a higher percentage as tax... so did i... although in total obama and romney paid much more.

isn't that the rationalized propaganda that the left uses to say that the wealthy don't pay their fair share?

In order for her to do that she would have to make close to that salary.You can't be serious in thinking she would be making that much money working as a medical technologist. I mean seriously.

if rommey made 1,000 dollars and paid 140 dollars in tax... and chrissy made 100 dollars and paid 30 dollars in tax... who paid a higher tax rate? and who paid the most tax?
There's no way Chrissy would pay $30 on $100 because that would be a 30% tax rate and if you look at the tax rates they start that high on over several hundred thousand dollars. No way a med tech makes that much.That's why she couldn't pay as much as Obama.After deductions and credits that would be the tax rate you paid. There's no way she's in the 35% tax bracket.

Here’s a quick rundown of what the Federal income tax brackets are expected to look like in 2012:
Tax Bracket Married Filing Jointly Single
10% Bracket $0 – $17,400 $0 – $8,700
15% Bracket $17,400 – $70,700 $8,700 – $35,350
25% Bracket $70,700 – $142,700 $35,350 – $85,650
28% Bracket $142,700 – $217,450 $85,650 – $178,650
33% Bracket $217,450 – $388,350 $178,650 – $388,350
35% Bracket Over $388,350 Over $388,350
this is the logic used to denigrate the wealthy with that "fair share" class warfare crap. we have a progressive tax code. there are also differing rates depending on the source of income. capital gains tax is different from income tax.

Nekochan wrote:

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

Hey, you're the one giving credence to a "notarized statement". That says everything that needs to be said about your cluelessness. You have no idea if Romney paid what he owed, and you don't care because he has an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters to you.

You have no interest in the fact that a number of Obama appointees are tax cheats because they have a "D" by their name. What about all the DEMOCRATIC tax cheats? The ones that we know haven't paid their "fair share"? You have no interest in their taxes.

Nekochan wrote:I thought the argument from the Left has been that the middle class pays most in taxes?? Now Dreams has this chart showing differently which is what I've been saying all along.

Nekochan wrote:

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

Hey, you're the one giving credence to a "notarized statement". That says everything that needs to be said about your cluelessness. You have no idea if Romney paid what he owed, and you don't care because he has an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters to you.

You have no interest in the fact that a number of Obama appointees are tax cheats because they have a "D" by their name. What about all the DEMOCRATIC tax cheats? The ones that we know haven't paid their "fair share"? You have no interest in their taxes.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

Hey, you're the one giving credence to a "notarized statement". That says everything that needs to be said about your cluelessness. You have no idea if Romney paid what he owed, and you don't care because he has an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters to you.

You have no interest in the fact that a number of Obama appointees are tax cheats because they have a "D" by their name. What about all the DEMOCRATIC tax cheats? The ones that we know haven't paid their "fair share"? You have no interest in their taxes.

The only reason I would care what Romney paid is that he paid a lesser amount than poorer people. When you're running for Pres. that matters to people who have paid a lesser percentage.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:I thought the argument from the Left has been that the middle class pays most in taxes?? Now Dreams has this chart showing differently which is what I've been saying all along.

How do you figure that?

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

Hey, you're the one giving credence to a "notarized statement". That says everything that needs to be said about your cluelessness. You have no idea if Romney paid what he owed, and you don't care because he has an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters to you.

You have no interest in the fact that a number of Obama appointees are tax cheats because they have a "D" by their name. What about all the DEMOCRATIC tax cheats? The ones that we know haven't paid their "fair share"? You have no interest in their taxes.

As far as I know they paid them all with penalties. Shame on them for being late. Your choice for POTUS is a plutocrat. He has no sanctuary, and you have no excuse.

Nekochan wrote:

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

salinsky wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
I have a clue. I have a clue that it's people in the OBAMA admin who have been tax cheats. Romney has paid what he owed in taxes and that is all that matters to me.

Hey, you're the one giving credence to a "notarized statement". That says everything that needs to be said about your cluelessness. You have no idea if Romney paid what he owed, and you don't care because he has an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters to you.

You have no interest in the fact that a number of Obama appointees are tax cheats because they have a "D" by their name. What about all the DEMOCRATIC tax cheats? The ones that we know haven't paid their "fair share"? You have no interest in their taxes.

As far as I know they paid them all with penalties. Shame on them for being late. Your choice for POTUS is a plutocrat. He has no sanctuary, and you have no excuse.

As far as you know? Well, the tax experts should investigate shouldn't they. After all, they only write the tax laws for the rest of us. They are GUILTY of tax evasion. But all you have is--shame on them.

Nekochan wrote:Well, the tax experts should investigate shouldn't they.

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:I thought the argument from the Left has been that the middle class pays most in taxes?? Now Dreams has this chart showing differently which is what I've been saying all along.

How do you figure that?

You've been saying that the middle class pay more than the rich. Your chart shows differently.

Nekochan wrote:

Yella wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Yella, Romney's accounting firm gave a notarized statement with a summary of 20 years of the Romneys' taxes. Romney's average rate over 20 years was around 20% with a low of around 13%.

Here's a pretty good article explaining why there are different rates for different types of income. From Slate, not exactly a right wing source. Of course, if all that matters to someone is seeing 10 years of Romney's tax returns, I very much doubt they'd vote for him, anyway. I think that the people hollering about Romney's taxes would never vote for him, regardless.

Why Mitt Romney's Effective Tax Rate Is So Low And Why It Probably Should Be

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/09/21/mitt_romney_s_effective_tax_rate_is_very_low_most_economists_think_it_should_be_.html

Neko, I still would like to see something more definitive.

Yella, what I think is that you would never vote for Romney, regardless. The whole damn world is falling apart. Frankly, I don't care what Romney OR Obama paid in taxes 10 years ago. I don't even care where Obama was born. If he were doing a good job as President, none of that would matter. He's not doing a good job and it still doesn't matter.

Yella wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Yella wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Yella, Romney's accounting firm gave a notarized statement with a summary of 20 years of the Romneys' taxes. Romney's average rate over 20 years was around 20% with a low of around 13%.

Here's a pretty good article explaining why there are different rates for different types of income. From Slate, not exactly a right wing source. Of course, if all that matters to someone is seeing 10 years of Romney's tax returns, I very much doubt they'd vote for him, anyway. I think that the people hollering about Romney's taxes would never vote for him, regardless.

Why Mitt Romney's Effective Tax Rate Is So Low And Why It Probably Should Be

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/09/21/mitt_romney_s_effective_tax_rate_is_very_low_most_economists_think_it_should_be_.html

Neko, I still would like to see something more definitive.

Yella, what I think is that you would never vote for Romney, regardless. The whole damn world is falling apart. Frankly, I don't care what Romney OR Obama paid in taxes 10 years ago. I don't even care where Obama was born. If he were doing a good job as President, none of that would matter. He's not doing a good job and it still doesn't matter.

Don't forget he was shut down by the Republican Congress on about everything he tried.

PkrBum wrote:

Yella wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Yella wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Yella, Romney's accounting firm gave a notarized statement with a summary of 20 years of the Romneys' taxes. Romney's average rate over 20 years was around 20% with a low of around 13%.

Here's a pretty good article explaining why there are different rates for different types of income. From Slate, not exactly a right wing source. Of course, if all that matters to someone is seeing 10 years of Romney's tax returns, I very much doubt they'd vote for him, anyway. I think that the people hollering about Romney's taxes would never vote for him, regardless.

Why Mitt Romney's Effective Tax Rate Is So Low And Why It Probably Should Be

It seems to me the pubs have a general mind set to do absolutely nothing if something was originated by the dems.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/09/21/mitt_romney_s_effective_tax_rate_is_very_low_most_economists_think_it_should_be_.html

Neko, I still would like to see something more definitive.

Yella, what I think is that you would never vote for Romney, regardless. The whole damn world is falling apart. Frankly, I don't care what Romney OR Obama paid in taxes 10 years ago. I don't even care where Obama was born. If he were doing a good job as President, none of that would matter. He's not doing a good job and it still doesn't matter.

Don't forget he was shut down by the Republican Congress on about everything he tried.

you mean when the pubs were elected as majority of the house in 2010 after a full two years of the dems controlling all 3...

right?