ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL"

Joanimaroni wrote:

knothead wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis

I appreciated reading a refresher on those events of so many years ago, what was most sad to me was the election outcome from which we still suffer from his tax cuts and the ensuing federal deficits yet he is still revered among his flock.  I saw an interview recently with President Carter and when asked if he could go back to that time what if anything would he do differently . . .  he simply replied "I would have sent one more helicopter".  Shit happens . . . .  

He should not have sent any choppers. He was warned the rescue would fail. Defensive warfare strategists were working a better plan.

knothead wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis

I appreciated reading a refresher on those events of so many years ago, what was most sad to me was the election outcome from which we still suffer from his tax cuts and the ensuing federal deficits yet he is still revered among his flock.  I saw an interview recently with President Carter and when asked if he could go back to that time what if anything would he do differently . . .  he simply replied "I would have sent one more helicopter".  Shit happens . . . .  

othershoe1030 wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis

So according to your article we see that Western powers have been messing about in the area because of their oil. (too bad our oil is under their sand etc.) and under a Republican administration in 1953 the CIA, well, here...

Worried that Mossadegh was moving Iran closer to the Soviet Union, the Cold War-era Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and British intelligence conspired to overthrow Mossadegh and consolidate power under a leader who was more receptive to Western interests.

That leader, a member of Iran’s royal family named Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi, was installed in power in 1953. Under the Shah’s pro-Western, secular anti-communist government, some 80 percent of the nation’s oil reserves returned to U.S. and British control.

President Obama didn't start this but now he and five other countries, Russia, France, Germany, China and Great Britain are in agreement that this deal significantly reduces the threat of Iran becoming a member of the nuclear club.

The deal was not meant to solve all the problems we see in the country. It won't insure equal rights for women or pave the roads or send all the girls to school, nor was it ever meant to. It is silly and ingenious to see commentators on TV or radio criticizing the deal on these grounds. According to the six most powerful nations on the planet it is a step forward.

Markle wrote:

knothead wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis

I appreciated reading a refresher on those events of so many years ago, what was most sad to me was the election outcome from which we still suffer from his tax cuts and the ensuing federal deficits yet he is still revered among his flock.  I saw an interview recently with President Carter and when asked if he could go back to that time what if anything would he do differently . . .  he simply replied "I would have sent one more helicopter".  Shit happens . . . .  

Which perfectly describes the administration of Jimmy Carter!  Thank you!

Joanimaroni wrote:He should not have sent any choppers. He was warned the rescue would fail. Defensive warfare strategists were working a better plan.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:He should not have sent any choppers. He was warned the rescue would fail. Defensive warfare strategists were working a better plan.

The pilots were all Marine CH-53 pilots. I knew several of them, as well as some of the enlisted crew. The leader of the raid happens to live in Gulf Breeze. Retired LtGen Charles Pittman was in charge. He was a colonel then. In 1981, he came back to Pensacola and was the CO of MATSG. He gave a bunch of us a first-hand account briefing on the mission that year. He was on the helicopter that turned back and barely made it back to the Nimitz (engines flamed out from fuel starvation on landing).