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ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL"
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27 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/10/2015, 8:31 pm
Sal
Who gives a rat fart?
Could be 99 out of 100.
The one would be the right one.
Could be 99 out of 100.
The one would be the right one.
28 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/10/2015, 8:33 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
2seaoat wrote:4 out of 5 against plan
More lies.....I started another thread to correct your lies.
You mean PeeDog and semi-demented poster Markle tell lies? I am SHOCKED I say, SHOCKED!
29 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/10/2015, 8:35 pm
2seaoat
Who gives a rat fart?
Could be 99 out of 100.
The one would be the right one.
Agree......especially when the folks who are against this are giving 32% of their support to Donald Trump.....
Could be 99 out of 100.
The one would be the right one.
Agree......especially when the folks who are against this are giving 32% of their support to Donald Trump.....
30 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/10/2015, 9:44 pm
Markle
2seaoat wrote:I didn't think so.
Were you able to read my post? Or just ignored a perfectly logical explanation.
Did you read the rest of the interview? I take it not. I'm not surprised.
I am proud that you included the part that this is a NON-BINDING AGREEMENT.
MUCH better to have a NON-BINDING AGREEMENT than a BINDING TREATY any day.
http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/texttrans/2015/03/20150312314012.html#axzz3lODf0NxO
31 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/10/2015, 9:49 pm
Markle
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:2seaoat wrote:4 out of 5 against plan
More lies.....I started another thread to correct your lies.
You mean PeeDog and semi-demented poster Markle tell lies? I am SHOCKED I say, SHOCKED!
32 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:00 am
Markle
September 8, 2015
Support for Iran Nuclear Agreement Falls
Public Awareness of Issue Has Declined Since July
As Congress prepares to vote on the Iran nuclear agreement, public support for the deal has declined. Currently, just 21% approve of the agreement on Iran’s nuclear program reached between the United States, Iran and other nations. Nearly half (49%) disapprove of the agreement, while three-in-ten (30%) offer no opinion.
Read more:
http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/08/support-for-iran-nuclear-agreement-falls/
Support for Iran Nuclear Agreement Falls
Public Awareness of Issue Has Declined Since July
As Congress prepares to vote on the Iran nuclear agreement, public support for the deal has declined. Currently, just 21% approve of the agreement on Iran’s nuclear program reached between the United States, Iran and other nations. Nearly half (49%) disapprove of the agreement, while three-in-ten (30%) offer no opinion.
Read more:
http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/08/support-for-iran-nuclear-agreement-falls/
33 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:07 am
Wordslinger
PkrBum wrote:You support a radical terrorist sponsoring proxy war funding theocracy that is promising to commit genocide.
No surprise here.
That makes you complicit... not just the extermination of jews... but the persecution of gays, women, infidels... etc.
Y'all are a sick bunch... and it's all to support your dear leader politically. It's amazing how cheap useful idiots are.
What we have here boys and girls, is a disillusioned, rebuked and desperately frustrated republican whose entire psyche centers on America always pretending to be the tough guy, and who's world is crashing because the rest of us know that war is just as much a loser as PkrBum.
34 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:10 am
Wordslinger
Markle wrote:September 8, 2015
Support for Iran Nuclear Agreement Falls
Public Awareness of Issue Has Declined Since July
As Congress prepares to vote on the Iran nuclear agreement, public support for the deal has declined. Currently, just 21% approve of the agreement on Iran’s nuclear program reached between the United States, Iran and other nations. Nearly half (49%) disapprove of the agreement, while three-in-ten (30%) offer no opinion.
Read more:
http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/08/support-for-iran-nuclear-agreement-falls/
An even better reality is that the deal is going through, despite your teams desperate attempt to force us into another unwinnable, unending, un-affordable war. You've been outsmarted by Barack Hussein Obama once again. LOL
35 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 8:15 am
Guest
Guest
Wordslinger wrote:PkrBum wrote:You support a radical terrorist sponsoring proxy war funding theocracy that is promising to commit genocide.
No surprise here.
That makes you complicit... not just the extermination of jews... but the persecution of gays, women, infidels... etc.
Y'all are a sick bunch... and it's all to support your dear leader politically. It's amazing how cheap useful idiots are.
What we have here boys and girls, is a disillusioned, rebuked and desperately frustrated republican whose entire psyche centers on America always pretending to be the tough guy, and who's world is crashing because the rest of us know that war is just as much a loser as PkrBum.
It's you and your ilk that will further crash and destabilize the me and entire region by enabling a backward despotic theocracy that threatens and persecutes those that they religiously deem to be unfit (women, gays, jews, sunni, infidels).
36 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 8:38 am
Sal
Give it a rest, Poindexer.
During the Dubya administration, Iran went from 0 nuclear centrifuges to 5,000, massively expanded its regional influence thanks to the removal of Saddam Hussein, and elected a coterie of Islamic extremists in response to the "Axis of Evil" speech.
No one has done more to empower Iran than Dubya and Cheney.
Thank you President Obama for trying to put a lid on it.
During the Dubya administration, Iran went from 0 nuclear centrifuges to 5,000, massively expanded its regional influence thanks to the removal of Saddam Hussein, and elected a coterie of Islamic extremists in response to the "Axis of Evil" speech.
No one has done more to empower Iran than Dubya and Cheney.
Thank you President Obama for trying to put a lid on it.
37 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 8:47 am
Guest
Guest
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8074984
Much analysis on the Iran nuclear agreement has sidelined human rights, particularly women's rights,largely ignored Iranian aggression,and forgotten the history of comparable pacts.
Women have been oppressed since the Islamic revolution in 1979. Their movement,which emerged forcibly in the mid 2000s,is probably the most courageous dissident effort in the region. It challenged sexist discrimination in a society without freedom of speech,assembly and association,and to the shame of the First World and Western feminism,received little international support.
Women reformers were attacked and arrested during peaceful protests such as the One Million Signatures Campaign,which aimed to dismantle discriminatory laws in marriage,divorce,citizenship,court testimony, inheritance and compensation for injury. The campaign also targeted mandatory Islamic dress,stoning for adultery,and lenient sentences for honor killings.
Under so-called reformist President Hassan Rouhani,human rights have not improved. Executions have risen to two per day,political prisoners have almost doubled, reformist publications have been closed down,and jailed journalists beaten. A regime official has reportedly acknowledged that hundreds of teachers are being held in prison.
Homosexuality is still a capital offense,and political parties are banned. Christians are battling a crackdown,and persecution of Bahá'ís continues, with discrimination in education,employment,and the jailing of community leaders.
Dogs are also persecuted,and their owners branded "morally depraved." Considered unclean,a public health hazard and an objectionable aspect of Westernization,dogs could be sent to "prison". Last November,a draft bill called for 74 lashes and fines for owners.
The U.S. Administration has recognized Iran's role as a major state sponsor of international terrorism. Through the Revolutionary Guards' Quds force and proxies such as Hezbollah,Iran is held responsible for many attacks against the United States,including the 1983 suicide bombings of the embassy and Marine barracks in Beirut,and the 1996 bombing of Khobar Towers in Riyadh. Iran reportedly supports Al Qaeda and affiliated militias, such as Jabhat al-Nusrah in Syria.
Signing of the accord has not stopped supreme leader Ali Khamenei's bellicose rhetoric against the United States. Recently,he declared Iran's policy was opposite to that of the U.S.
The free world's track record in dealing with authoritarian regimes is not encouraging. Former U.S. President Bill Clinton's remarks on reaching a nuclear agreement with North Korea are ominously similar to President Obama's on Iran. Clinton said the agreement was "good for the United States,good for our allies,and good for the safety of the entire world. It reduces the danger of the threat of nuclear spreading in the region. It's a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community." These fine words were followed by the brinkmanship and nuclear breakout of a totalitarian government bent on retaining power.
Rapprochement with Iran is reminiscent of detente during the Cold War. Envisaged as a means to reduce arms and tension,detente increased the belligerence of the Soviet Union. Soviet dissidents warned against accommodation; today,dissidents caution against appeasement.
President Obama is attempting to distance the U.S. from the region after the debacle in Iraq and Afghanistan,and the Islamist extremism that filled the vacuum left by the Arab Spring. He is backing Iran in the hope the regime will moderate with time and Western contact,assist in defeating Islamic State,help stabilize Iraq,Syria and Afghanistan,and strike a new balance of power with the Sunni Gulf states.
In this crucible of ancient hatreds and violence,Shia Iran,which represents only ten percent of the Muslim world,is looming ascendant. The deal will deliver the Iranian regime a windfall in unfrozen assets,lifted sanctions, global publicity and international stature. Ultimately,Iran could develop nuclear weapons.
Confronting this specter,the U.S. and other Western powers indulge in wishful blinking instead of common sense and cautious appraisal of wily Levantine tactics to obfuscate,wear out,and push their opponents toward a gamble in favor of their own objectives.
A rapprochement with the West is a welcome development but this nuclear accord needs an overhaul by Congress; otherwise the Obama Administration could be backing a shady horse,and a Trojan breed at that.
Much analysis on the Iran nuclear agreement has sidelined human rights, particularly women's rights,largely ignored Iranian aggression,and forgotten the history of comparable pacts.
Women have been oppressed since the Islamic revolution in 1979. Their movement,which emerged forcibly in the mid 2000s,is probably the most courageous dissident effort in the region. It challenged sexist discrimination in a society without freedom of speech,assembly and association,and to the shame of the First World and Western feminism,received little international support.
Women reformers were attacked and arrested during peaceful protests such as the One Million Signatures Campaign,which aimed to dismantle discriminatory laws in marriage,divorce,citizenship,court testimony, inheritance and compensation for injury. The campaign also targeted mandatory Islamic dress,stoning for adultery,and lenient sentences for honor killings.
Under so-called reformist President Hassan Rouhani,human rights have not improved. Executions have risen to two per day,political prisoners have almost doubled, reformist publications have been closed down,and jailed journalists beaten. A regime official has reportedly acknowledged that hundreds of teachers are being held in prison.
Homosexuality is still a capital offense,and political parties are banned. Christians are battling a crackdown,and persecution of Bahá'ís continues, with discrimination in education,employment,and the jailing of community leaders.
Dogs are also persecuted,and their owners branded "morally depraved." Considered unclean,a public health hazard and an objectionable aspect of Westernization,dogs could be sent to "prison". Last November,a draft bill called for 74 lashes and fines for owners.
The U.S. Administration has recognized Iran's role as a major state sponsor of international terrorism. Through the Revolutionary Guards' Quds force and proxies such as Hezbollah,Iran is held responsible for many attacks against the United States,including the 1983 suicide bombings of the embassy and Marine barracks in Beirut,and the 1996 bombing of Khobar Towers in Riyadh. Iran reportedly supports Al Qaeda and affiliated militias, such as Jabhat al-Nusrah in Syria.
Signing of the accord has not stopped supreme leader Ali Khamenei's bellicose rhetoric against the United States. Recently,he declared Iran's policy was opposite to that of the U.S.
The free world's track record in dealing with authoritarian regimes is not encouraging. Former U.S. President Bill Clinton's remarks on reaching a nuclear agreement with North Korea are ominously similar to President Obama's on Iran. Clinton said the agreement was "good for the United States,good for our allies,and good for the safety of the entire world. It reduces the danger of the threat of nuclear spreading in the region. It's a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community." These fine words were followed by the brinkmanship and nuclear breakout of a totalitarian government bent on retaining power.
Rapprochement with Iran is reminiscent of detente during the Cold War. Envisaged as a means to reduce arms and tension,detente increased the belligerence of the Soviet Union. Soviet dissidents warned against accommodation; today,dissidents caution against appeasement.
President Obama is attempting to distance the U.S. from the region after the debacle in Iraq and Afghanistan,and the Islamist extremism that filled the vacuum left by the Arab Spring. He is backing Iran in the hope the regime will moderate with time and Western contact,assist in defeating Islamic State,help stabilize Iraq,Syria and Afghanistan,and strike a new balance of power with the Sunni Gulf states.
In this crucible of ancient hatreds and violence,Shia Iran,which represents only ten percent of the Muslim world,is looming ascendant. The deal will deliver the Iranian regime a windfall in unfrozen assets,lifted sanctions, global publicity and international stature. Ultimately,Iran could develop nuclear weapons.
Confronting this specter,the U.S. and other Western powers indulge in wishful blinking instead of common sense and cautious appraisal of wily Levantine tactics to obfuscate,wear out,and push their opponents toward a gamble in favor of their own objectives.
A rapprochement with the West is a welcome development but this nuclear accord needs an overhaul by Congress; otherwise the Obama Administration could be backing a shady horse,and a Trojan breed at that.
38 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 12:14 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
Salinsky wrote:No one has done more to empower Iran than Dubya and Cheney.
I know this FACT just kills wingnuts when they hear it......
39 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 4:16 pm
Markle
Wordslinger wrote:Markle wrote:September 8, 2015
Support for Iran Nuclear Agreement Falls
Public Awareness of Issue Has Declined Since July
As Congress prepares to vote on the Iran nuclear agreement, public support for the deal has declined. Currently, just 21% approve of the agreement on Iran’s nuclear program reached between the United States, Iran and other nations. Nearly half (49%) disapprove of the agreement, while three-in-ten (30%) offer no opinion.
Read more:
http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/08/support-for-iran-nuclear-agreement-falls/
An even better reality is that the deal is going through, despite your teams desperate attempt to force us into another unwinnable, unending, un-affordable war. You've been outsmarted by Barack Hussein Obama once again. LOL
Specifically what Republican Representative or Senator has said the only alternative to this illegal deal is war?
41 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:26 pm
polecat
Unemployment lower than at any time under Reagan. Instead of illegally trading weapons to Iran, we have a peace deal. "A disaster," says GOP. - The Daily Edge
42 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:34 pm
Markle
2seaoat wrote:
A GEORGE SOROS ADVERTISEMENT? Who could make this up? Right, 2seaoat.
43 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:47 pm
Markle
polecat wrote: Unemployment lower than at any time under Reagan. Instead of illegally trading weapons to Iran, we have a peace deal. "A disaster," says GOP. - The Daily Edge
Simple, where you have the lowest Labor Participation Rate is the lowest in 70+ years.
44 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 5:58 pm
Floridatexan
PkrBum wrote:Wordslinger wrote:PkrBum wrote:You support a radical terrorist sponsoring proxy war funding theocracy that is promising to commit genocide.
No surprise here.
That makes you complicit... not just the extermination of jews... but the persecution of gays, women, infidels... etc.
Y'all are a sick bunch... and it's all to support your dear leader politically. It's amazing how cheap useful idiots are.
What we have here boys and girls, is a disillusioned, rebuked and desperately frustrated republican whose entire psyche centers on America always pretending to be the tough guy, and who's world is crashing because the rest of us know that war is just as much a loser as PkrBum.
It's you and your ilk that will further crash and destabilize the me and entire region by enabling a backward despotic theocracy that threatens and persecutes those that they religiously deem to be unfit (women, gays, jews, sunni, infidels).
A few adjustments to your statement and you have accurately described the Republican Party platform. You're welcome.
45 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 7:26 pm
othershoe1030
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Salinsky wrote:No one has done more to empower Iran than Dubya and Cheney.
I know this FACT just kills wingnuts when they hear it......
Well, let's not forget this either...
46 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 7:54 pm
Guest
Guest
Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis
47 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 8:49 pm
othershoe1030
PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis
So according to your article we see that Western powers have been messing about in the area because of their oil. (too bad our oil is under their sand etc.) and under a Republican administration in 1953 the CIA, well, here...
Worried that Mossadegh was moving Iran closer to the Soviet Union, the Cold War-era Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and British intelligence conspired to overthrow Mossadegh and consolidate power under a leader who was more receptive to Western interests.
That leader, a member of Iran’s royal family named Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi, was installed in power in 1953. Under the Shah’s pro-Western, secular anti-communist government, some 80 percent of the nation’s oil reserves returned to U.S. and British control.
President Obama didn't start this but now he and five other countries, Russia, France, Germany, China and Great Britain are in agreement that this deal significantly reduces the threat of Iran becoming a member of the nuclear club.
The deal was not meant to solve all the problems we see in the country. It won't insure equal rights for women or pave the roads or send all the girls to school, nor was it ever meant to. It is silly and ingenious to see commentators on TV or radio criticizing the deal on these grounds. According to the six most powerful nations on the planet it is a step forward.
48 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 8:54 pm
knothead
PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis
I appreciated reading a refresher on those events of so many years ago, what was most sad to me was the election outcome from which we still suffer from his tax cuts and the ensuing federal deficits yet he is still revered among his flock. I saw an interview recently with President Carter and when asked if he could go back to that time what if anything would he do differently . . . he simply replied "I would have sent one more helicopter". Shit happens . . . .
49 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 8:55 pm
TEOTWAWKI
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. ...George Washington
50 Re: ONLY 21% of AMERICANS APPROVE of IRAN NUCLEAR "DEAL" 9/11/2015, 9:19 pm
Joanimaroni
knothead wrote:PkrBum wrote:Or this: http://www.history.com/news/35-years-later-looking-back-at-the-iran-hostage-crisis
I appreciated reading a refresher on those events of so many years ago, what was most sad to me was the election outcome from which we still suffer from his tax cuts and the ensuing federal deficits yet he is still revered among his flock. I saw an interview recently with President Carter and when asked if he could go back to that time what if anything would he do differently . . . he simply replied "I would have sent one more helicopter". Shit happens . . . .
He should not have sent any choppers. He was warned the rescue would fail. Defensive warfare strategists were working a better plan.
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