HomeTEOTWAWKI wrote:Not quite human ...
That's a damn newborn who didn't break out of the sac. Not the same.
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If abortion is not murder,
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EmeraldGhost
Joanimaroni
ZVUGKTUBM
Wordslinger
Hospital Bob
Markle
Sal
Vikingwoman
TEOTWAWKI
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26 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 1:04 am
Vikingwoman
That's a damn newborn who didn't break out of the sac. Not the same.
27 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 1:06 am
TEOTWAWKI
Yeah who knows what it is until its cleaned up or properly dissected.
28 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 1:08 am
Hospital Bob
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Not quite human ...
Is that supposed to be the final word on when human life begins?
Is it when we see what's in that particular photo?
Is it when we use a microscope to see a fertilized egg in the womb?
Is it a picture of a one month old fetus?
When the toast pops out of the toaster and we see a picture of Jesus or Elvis on the toast, is the toast alive? lol
29 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 1:14 am
Hospital Bob
Obamasucks wrote:There is a MORE right answer
According to who? Is it you? So you have the final answer on what's right or what's wrong?
Jesus, son, you've strayed so far off the fence you'll need a bloodhound and an indian scout to get you back to the pasture. And a seeing eye dog would probably help too.
30 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 3:21 am
Markle
Vikingwoman wrote:Obamasucks wrote:Bob wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:
I believe abortions a little after the first trimester are illegal in most states.
So what. Then make yourself or your daughter two months pregnant.
VW,
Not with PP going at abortions hand over fist. You've seen the body parts all over the web. Those are late term abortions
Planned Parenthood does not do illegal abortions which would be a late term abortion. Those stories are false. Only dummies believe those planted stories.
Surly you jest.
31 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 9:15 am
Wordslinger
Here's a different bad pregnancy scenario: Your 14-year-old daughter confesses she's three months pregnant after being seduced by your wife's older brother.
If your daughter bears the child, her life will have been ruined and you will be paying for it a long, long time. And she knows it because she wants you to help her get her an abortion.
Goodbye you little bastard, too bad you've got a terrible sense of timing! And then you pick up the phone.
If your daughter bears the child, her life will have been ruined and you will be paying for it a long, long time. And she knows it because she wants you to help her get her an abortion.
Goodbye you little bastard, too bad you've got a terrible sense of timing! And then you pick up the phone.
32 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 9:20 am
Guest
Guest
You are for sure the angriest old man that exists.
33 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 9:32 am
Wordslinger
Obamasucks wrote:You are for sure the angriest old man that exists.
No sweetheart, I'm a realist and you have PTSD.
34 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 10:13 am
Hospital Bob
Hucklebee was on tv this morning saying "human life begins at conception".
That means a doctor removing a fertilized egg from a woman's womb is a murderer no different from Ted Bundy. Even if the fertilized egg was put there by a muslim rapist or a commie rapist, or even worse, a liberal rapist. lol
At least it is by any definition of murder that our legal system has ever conceived. Because murder is "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". And if that fucking fertilized egg is a human being then it's murder. And if it's not, then we need to either completely rewrite the fucking dictionary OR Hucklebee needs to have his mouth taped shut because the REAL abortion is whatever he spews out of it.
lol
That means a doctor removing a fertilized egg from a woman's womb is a murderer no different from Ted Bundy. Even if the fertilized egg was put there by a muslim rapist or a commie rapist, or even worse, a liberal rapist. lol
At least it is by any definition of murder that our legal system has ever conceived. Because murder is "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". And if that fucking fertilized egg is a human being then it's murder. And if it's not, then we need to either completely rewrite the fucking dictionary OR Hucklebee needs to have his mouth taped shut because the REAL abortion is whatever he spews out of it.
lol
35 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 10:18 am
TEOTWAWKI
Bob wrote:Hucklebee was on tv this morning saying "human life begins at conception".
That means a doctor removing a fertilized egg from a woman's womb is a murderer no different from Ted Bundy. Even if the fertilized egg was put there by a muslim rapist or a commie rapist, or even worse, a liberal rapist. lol
At least it is by any definition of murder that our legal system has ever conceived. Because murder is "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". And if that fucking fertilized egg is a human being then it's murder. And if it's not, then we need to either completely rewrite the fucking dictionary OR Hucklebee needs to have his mouth taped shut because the REAL abortion is whatever he spews out of it.
lol
We were all just a fertilized egg at one time Bob...first the egg then the chicken...
36 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 10:35 am
Hospital Bob
Here's what really tickles me.
I see all these preachers and preacher/politicians on the radio and tv who tell me how evil abortion is.
And then I turn on their next program and it's switched to a crusade against queers.
And then I wonder to myself, if these mensas have blood coming out of their eyes (and other parts) over abortion, then why are they also bashing the queers.
Because queers don't produce abortions.
At least not unless it's a closeted queer republican politician who
got married and produced a child as a ruse because he knew he had to do that to get elected and stay elected.
I tell you, a hundred years from now when historians look back on all this, they're going to be shaking their heads in disbelief.
That is unless this liberal/conservative national obsession lasts for another hundred years. And I'm afraid it will, unless by then all the liberals and conservatives have been "aborted" from society.
I see all these preachers and preacher/politicians on the radio and tv who tell me how evil abortion is.
And then I turn on their next program and it's switched to a crusade against queers.
And then I wonder to myself, if these mensas have blood coming out of their eyes (and other parts) over abortion, then why are they also bashing the queers.
Because queers don't produce abortions.
At least not unless it's a closeted queer republican politician who
got married and produced a child as a ruse because he knew he had to do that to get elected and stay elected.
I tell you, a hundred years from now when historians look back on all this, they're going to be shaking their heads in disbelief.
That is unless this liberal/conservative national obsession lasts for another hundred years. And I'm afraid it will, unless by then all the liberals and conservatives have been "aborted" from society.
38 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 10:48 am
Hospital Bob
TEOTWAWKI wrote:A hundred years? You optimist....lol.
Well when McCain used the figure of "100 years" and they called bullshit on him for it, he then said "make that 1000 years".
So if it's good enough for a fucking senator it's good enough for me.
Make it 1000 years. lol
39 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 2:16 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
Bob wrote:At least not unless it's a closeted queer republican politician who
got married and produced a child as a ruse because he knew he had to do that to get elected and stay elected.
We have seen a few of those in recent years, and have not seen the last one.
40 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 4:16 pm
Joanimaroni
Abortion legal fetus....with a heart beat
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Markle
Wordslinger wrote:Here's a different bad pregnancy scenario: Your 14-year-old daughter confesses she's three months pregnant after being seduced by your wife's older brother.
If your daughter bears the child, her life will have been ruined and you will be paying for it a long, long time. And she knows it because she wants you to help her get her an abortion.
Goodbye you little bastard, too bad you've got a terrible sense of timing! And then you pick up the phone.
It is true, you are one angry old man.
The number of Americans opposed to abortion due to incest is miniscule. But the truth and FACTS are WAY too much for you to handle. That's okay Wordslinger, we're accustomed to your hate and anger.
42 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 5:08 pm
Hospital Bob
Markle wrote:
The number of Americans opposed to abortion due to incest is miniscule.
How bout you, markle. What if a girl or woman is raped and wants to have an abortion. What would be your position on that?
And yes I already realize rape is not the most typical circumstance for getting an abortion so please don't bother to tell me that. If you must, then I'll have to ask you why you have that red in your eyes (and other parts) about marijuana when it's the other drugs killing people and not marijuana. And then we'll just be spinning wheels.
43 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 5:22 pm
EmeraldGhost
What I fail to understand is Pro-Lifers who take the stance that all fetal life is sacred .... yet make an exception for rape & incest. If it's sacred, it's sacred ... right? Regardless of the circumstances of conception. How is a fetus conceived of rape or incest any less "sacred" than one conceived otherwise?
Pro-Lifers ... feel free to jump in & explain that one to me.
As for me .... I'm with Bill Clinton on this: "safe, legal, and rare." Roe v. Wade is good compromise law IMO.
Pro-Lifers ... feel free to jump in & explain that one to me.
As for me .... I'm with Bill Clinton on this: "safe, legal, and rare." Roe v. Wade is good compromise law IMO.
44 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 5:30 pm
TEOTWAWKI
Well half the DNA belongs to the mother and the child is guilty of nothing.
45 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 5:42 pm
Hospital Bob
Damn, ghost. When I put that question to markle, I was assuming that if he even bothers to give me an answer it would be that he's willing to make an exception with rape. And then once he gave me that answer, I was going to hit him with what you just wrote.
But I so agree with you. Really the WHOLE argument of "pro-lifers" is that any fetus is a human being and should possess all the rights of any other human being, including the right to not be "murdered".
And because of that, if markle or anyone else is willing to make an exception with rape or incest or anything else, that destroys their whole argument. Because their argument is based on the premise that a fetus is a human being regardless of how it got to be a fetus.
And if they then tell me they make no exceptions, then I have just as much problem with them telling me that a girl/woman should be forced to carry to term and give birth to the product of a brutal sadistic rape. Especially if the rapist is a muslim commie atheist or even worse, somebody who agrees with the antichrist Obama.
Consequently, this is not a "get off the fence" and make-the-masses-give-you-an-opinion-one-way-or-the-other issue.
Not everything we encounter in life can be reduced to such a simpleton point of view as that. Some things in life are not always best decided by a wrastlin approach.
But I so agree with you. Really the WHOLE argument of "pro-lifers" is that any fetus is a human being and should possess all the rights of any other human being, including the right to not be "murdered".
And because of that, if markle or anyone else is willing to make an exception with rape or incest or anything else, that destroys their whole argument. Because their argument is based on the premise that a fetus is a human being regardless of how it got to be a fetus.
And if they then tell me they make no exceptions, then I have just as much problem with them telling me that a girl/woman should be forced to carry to term and give birth to the product of a brutal sadistic rape. Especially if the rapist is a muslim commie atheist or even worse, somebody who agrees with the antichrist Obama.
Consequently, this is not a "get off the fence" and make-the-masses-give-you-an-opinion-one-way-or-the-other issue.
Not everything we encounter in life can be reduced to such a simpleton point of view as that. Some things in life are not always best decided by a wrastlin approach.
46 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 6:16 pm
Guest
Guest
by Wordslinger Yesterday at 3:32 pm
Obamasucks wrote:
“
You are for sure the angriest old man that exists.
”
No sweetheart, I'm a realist and you have PTSD.
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It would seem you do posting in caps ( screaming)
Obamasucks wrote:
“
You are for sure the angriest old man that exists.
”
No sweetheart, I'm a realist and you have PTSD.
-----
It would seem you do posting in caps ( screaming)
47 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 6:32 pm
Guest
Guest
When do we start the sanger progressive govt solutions by sterilizing the undesirables again?
Cmon... y'all know it's just a matter of time before child bearing is a State sanctioned permit.
Cmon... y'all know it's just a matter of time before child bearing is a State sanctioned permit.
48 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 6:43 pm
Hospital Bob
PkrBum wrote:When do we start the sanger progressive govt solutions by sterilizing the undesirables again?
Cmon... y'all know it's just a matter of time before child bearing is a State sanctioned permit.
Actually, when the decision to abort a fetus is taken away from the pregnant woman and given over to the state, wouldn't that be a "government solution"?
I always thought the libertarian position would be opposed to anything like that.
49 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 7:28 pm
TEOTWAWKI
My particular brand of libertarianism is simple. I don't like babies getting killed at any stage BUT when you use my money in any form to do it you make me an accomplice and that is unacceptable. You want to kill yourself buy your own damned rope. I don't even drink Pepsi anymore since I found out they use fetus as a flavor enhancement....I ain't a cannibal. I also don't support our eternal war but it does little good to stand on my roof top and yell it...I can only hope God hears me.
http://www.naturalnews.com/035276_Pepsi_fetal_cells_business_operations.html
Obama agency rules Pepsi's use of aborted fetal cells in soft drinks constitutes 'ordinary business operations'
Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) has decided that PepsiCo's arrangement with San Diego, Cal.-based Senomyx, which produces flavor enhancing chemicals for Pepsi using human embryonic kidney tissue, simply constitutes "ordinary business operations."
http://www.naturalnews.com/035276_Pepsi_fetal_cells_business_operations.html
Obama agency rules Pepsi's use of aborted fetal cells in soft drinks constitutes 'ordinary business operations'
Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) has decided that PepsiCo's arrangement with San Diego, Cal.-based Senomyx, which produces flavor enhancing chemicals for Pepsi using human embryonic kidney tissue, simply constitutes "ordinary business operations."
50 Re: If abortion is not murder, 8/9/2015, 7:31 pm
Hospital Bob
TEOTWAWKI wrote: I don't even drink Pepsi anymore since I found out they use fetus as a flavor enhancement....I ain't a cannibal.
http://www.naturalnews.com/035276_Pepsi_fetal_cells_business_operations.html
Obama agency rules Pepsi's use of aborted fetal cells in soft drinks constitutes 'ordinary business operations'
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/pepsi.asp
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