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Abortion is Good for Us All!

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1Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/12/2015, 4:36 pm

Sal

Sal

Science!

Fetal cells are considered ideal because they divide rapidly, adapt to new environments easily and are less susceptible to rejection than adult cells when transplanted.

“If researchers are unable to work with fetal tissue, there is a huge list of diseases for which researchers would move much more slowly, rather than quickly, to find their cause and how they can be cured,” Stanford University spokeswoman Lisa Lapin said in an email.

From 2011 through 2014 alone, 97 research institutions — mostly universities and hospitals — received a total of $280 million in federal grants for fetal tissue research from the National Institutes of Health. A few institutions have consistently gotten large shares of that money, including Yale, the University of California and Massachusetts General Hospital, which is affiliated with Harvard.

The U.S. government prohibits the sale of fetal tissue for profit and requires separation between researchers and the women who donate fetuses. Some schools go further, requiring written consent from donors.

Researchers use fetal tissue to understand cell biology and human development. Others use it to look for treatments for AIDS. Research on spinal cord injuries and eyesight-robbing macular degeneration involves transplanting fetal cells into patients. European researchers recently began putting fetal tissue into patients’ brains to try to treat Parkinson’s, a strategy that previously had mixed results.

Vaccines have been one of the chief public benefits of fetal tissue research. Vaccines for hepatitis A, German measles, chickenpox and rabies, for example, were developed using cell lines grown from tissue from two elective abortions, one in England and one in Sweden, that were performed in the 1960s.

German measles, also known as rubella, “caused 5,000 spontaneous abortions a year prior to the vaccine,” said Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious-disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “We wouldn’t have saved all those lives had it not been for those cells.”

Fetal tissue was “absolutely critical” to the development of a potential Ebola vaccine that has shown promise, said Dr. Carrie Wolinetz, an associate director at NIH, which last year handed out $76 million for work involving fetal tissue, or 0.2 percent of the agency’s research budget.

Scientists are also using fetal tissue to try to identify substances in adults that could be early warning signs of cancer, said Dr. Akhilesh Pandey, a molecular biologist at Johns Hopkins University.

Experts at MIT and other research centers use fetal tissue to implant the human immune system into mice, as a way to study diseases without employing people as test subjects. They add tumors to study the immune system’s response, then test cancer treatments out on the mice.

“This eventually will provide a benefit to society,” said Jianzhu Chen, an immunology professor and researcher at MIT.

At Stanford, fetal tissue has been used to study Huntington’s disease, “bubble boy disease” and juvenile diabetes. Fetal brain calls are now being used there in research on autism and schizophrenia.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/medical-researchers-say-fetal-tissue-remains-essential/

Telstar

Telstar

So Ayn Rand was on to something.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yes wonderful, destroy the seeds of the future to keep the old growth from dying like it should...

We've done the same with money pushing our debt onto the "lucky" ones that made it out of the womb alive...So old farts on government pensions can ride around in motor-homes and eat lobster..

nadalfan



This kind of beneficial research has been going on for decades, with congressional approval. Why the outrage now?
Why didn't Cruz try to defund them before...oh yeah...need to get the base into a frenzy so they won't notice the lack of policies aimed to help most Americans...useful idiots indeed

Check out the irony in Cruz's new ad...

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cruz-vows-prosecute-and-defund-planned-parenthood-new-video

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

It's very difficult for one politician to do anything until he has the public aware and  behind him on it.

Guest


Guest

If abortion is so great... imagine how wonderful sterilization will be for the useful idiots.

nadalfan



TEOTWAWKI wrote:It's very difficult for one politician to do anything until he has the public aware and  behind him on it.

Some of these politicians who are appalled now are the same ones who supported fetal tissue research. The timing is just a little too convenient

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Maybe the kids will get behind euthanasia once they see how bad the old farts screwed them.

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nadalfan



PkrBum wrote:If abortion is so great... imagine how wonderful sterilization will be for the useful idiots.

How silly. Abortion reduction is the best answer and access to contraception is part of the solution

10Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/12/2015, 5:12 pm

Sal

Sal

nadalfan wrote:This kind of beneficial research has been going on for decades, with congressional approval.  Why the outrage now?  
Why didn't Cruz try to defund them before...oh yeah...need to get the base into a frenzy so they won't notice the lack of policies aimed to help most Americans...useful idiots indeed

Check out the irony in Cruz's new ad...

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cruz-vows-prosecute-and-defund-planned-parenthood-new-video

Ted Cruz is about the strongest case for abortion that I can imagine.

11Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/12/2015, 5:13 pm

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

It's about time we gave up on ethical behavior and people not imitating Bonobo chimps sexually. It's too much to expect self control at any point in our lives under any aspect of life....eat, drink and make Mary for tomorrow we will diet, sober up and get an abortion....

12Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/12/2015, 5:21 pm

Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:It's about time we gave up on ethical behavior and people not imitating Bonobo chimps sexually. It's too much to expect self control at any point in our lives under any aspect of life....eat, drink and make Mary for tomorrow we will diet, sober up and get an abortion....

It's true.

If we would all just follow the example of our resident backwoods conspiraloon and stop having sex altogether, the world would be so much more ethical.

It's just a mystery to me that you don't have more of a following with the youth.

13Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/12/2015, 5:48 pm

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Salinsky wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:It's about time we gave up on ethical behavior and people not imitating Bonobo chimps sexually. It's too much to expect self control at any point in our lives under any aspect of life....eat, drink and make Mary for tomorrow we will diet, sober up and get an abortion....

It's true.

If we would all just follow the example of our resident backwoods conspiraloon and stop having sex altogether, the world would be so much more ethical.

It's just a mystery to me that you don't have more of a following with the youth.

Well it ain't just the youths waddling around sucking on a diet soda. A doctor told me once people will pay for three things booze, sex and medical care to fix the results of the first two....

14Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 10:33 am

nadalfan



Ben Carson used fetal tissue in research. He probably forgot, even though his work was published.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/ben-carson-conducted-fetal-tissue-research-as-a-doctor-which-he-now-opposes-as-gop-candidate/

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/ben-carson-did-research-on-17-week-fetal-tissue/

"As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research. His discipline would have a hard time being were it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness."

15Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 11:25 am

Sal

Sal

nadalfan wrote:Ben Carson used fetal tissue in research.  He probably forgot, even though his work was published.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/ben-carson-conducted-fetal-tissue-research-as-a-doctor-which-he-now-opposes-as-gop-candidate/

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/ben-carson-did-research-on-17-week-fetal-tissue/

"As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research. His discipline would have a hard time being were it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness."

I can't figure Carson out.

I mean you have to be pretty damn smart to become a neurosurgeon, right?

I don't know if he's an imposter who stole the doctor's identity, or maybe he attempted to practice his craft on his own egg, but somethin's amiss.

16Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 11:34 am

Guest


Guest

Ya... cause individual liberty... equal opportunity... and self-reliance are craaaazy talk.

It's best to vote for the candidate that promises you the most shit taken from the productive.

17Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 11:43 am

Sal

Sal

No, seriously ...

... have you listened to the guy recently?

The dude sounds like he's been getting debate prepped by Glenn Beck.

You'd think he was running for Mayor of Crazytown.

18Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 10:49 pm

Markle

Markle

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Maybe the kids will get behind euthanasia once they see how bad the old farts screwed them.

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They're already doing that in England. It's called the Liverpool Pathway. It is a pathway to death and, don't necessarily tell the patient or their family that they are on the Liverpool Pathway.

This is the system LOVED by the medical advisors of semi-retired President Obama.

19Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 11:03 pm

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Obama is a member of that communist death cult.  They actually hate people that are different from them. Have you ever known a communist country that wasn't big on democide ? Nope. That's why abortion is so popular.  commiies are morally dead inside already.  Yeah their stupid ghoulish arguments about using fetal tissue for experimentation. Saying how much good it will do.  That's all BS and a cover for their love of death.  Their God is the state and if it says you should die then so be it.



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20Abortion is Good for Us All! Empty Re: Abortion is Good for Us All! 8/13/2015, 11:15 pm

Markle

Markle

Salinsky wrote:
nadalfan wrote:Ben Carson used fetal tissue in research.  He probably forgot, even though his work was published.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/ben-carson-conducted-fetal-tissue-research-as-a-doctor-which-he-now-opposes-as-gop-candidate/

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/ben-carson-did-research-on-17-week-fetal-tissue/

"As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research. His discipline would have a hard time being were it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness."

I can't figure Carson out.

I mean you have to be pretty damn smart to become a neurosurgeon, right?

I don't know if he's an imposter who stole the doctor's identity, or maybe he attempted to practice his craft on his own egg, but somethin's amiss.

Why does he frighten you so much? He's not going to win the nomination.

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