Damaged Eagle wrote: boards of FL wrote: Damaged Eagle wrote: boards of FL wrote: Damaged Eagle wrote: boards of FL wrote: Damaged Eagle wrote: boards of FL wrote: Damaged Eagle wrote:What makes you think your moral code is superior to someone else's?
Well, my moral code doesn't condone the act of torturing human beings; hence my moral code is superior to anyone else's that does condone the act of torturing human beings.
No yours just condones the butchering of tens of thousands because your Nobel Champion Of Peace decides he can bomb a sovereign nation at a whim without Congressional approval or savage peaceful gatherings with his drones on foreign soil to get that one suspected terrorist that he doesn't like.
No, it doesn't. You're simply not smart enough to wrap your head around the concept of the lesser of two evils.
The train operator - from my hypothetical question - who directs the train to the right, which results in the death of 10 people versus the death of 100 people doesn't condone the death of 10 people. That train operator merely sought to use his influence to minimize an inevitable negative outcome.
If I'm on a long flight that offers three meals - filet mignon, circus peanuts, or dog food - and if by the time the steward reaches me they are out of filet mignon which causes me to select circus peanuts, that doesn't mean that I condone eating circus peanuts for dinner. It is an example of me opting for the lesser of two evils - circus peanuts or dog food.
Applying this painfully clear logic to this thread: If I have to select between the democratic foreign policy of diplomacy, sanctions, and targeted drone strikes or the republican policy of full on occupation of countries that run into the trillions (and, torture, apparently), I'll take the democratic foreign policy. That doesn't mean that I condone the democratic foreign policy. It just means that I see that the republican policy is worse so I'll seek to avoid that.
With all that said, feel free to completely misunderstand all of this and tell me that I condone the butchering of children, torture, etc...
If you really believe your own bullshit then why didn't you demand that the president use drone strikes on the looters in Ferguson?
Why would I? What is it that you're reading that would lead you to such an off-the-wall conclusion? I explained it to you as if you were five, and yet...
This comment is so incredibly stupid that I'm not even sure as to how to respond other than to say, "Because I think that would be a very bad idea and it doesn't fit with my worldview in any way, shape, or form."
Yet you're perfectly willing to condone such drone strikes on wedding parties and other peaceful activities to take out one or two suspected terrorists overseas and have been consist so far in saying it's the lesser of two evils.
You are seriously illiterate. Absolutely no reading comprehension whatsoever. If you aren't capable of reading and comprehending what I'm saying, there is essentially no argument that I can present to you in writing that could convince you of anything, so I'll bow out at this point.
As I have said before...
boards of FL wrote:I think you tend to get ignored because you struggle to stay on topic or directly respond to anything.
I could say something like "I agree with Obama's immigration policy" and your response would be "OH!!!! OH!!!!! SO YOU ADMIT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE ALL PUBLIC EDUCATORS TORTURED AND MURDERED!!!!! RIGHT??!?!?! HUH?!!?!?"
Watch, you're about to do it right now.
That's right run Forest run.
*****ROFLMAO*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mwELXPGbA
I'm not running away from your argument. I'm simply acknowledging that it is a waste of time to try and engage someone - in writing - when they clearly struggle with reading comprehension.
I have said, repeatedly, that I do not condone the murder of innocent people. I have repeatedly given you very basic examples in an attempt to explain this to you as if you're 5. Somehow this all falls on deaf ears and all you can respond with is "AH!!! OH!!! SO YOU CONDONE MURDER!!!"
As I said before, if you can't read, there is no argument that I can submit to you in writing that will convince you of anything. It's almost as if you're not reading anything that I'm saying and instead you're just replying to reply.
This back and forth perfectly illustrates that.
boards of FL wrote:You're still not grasping the concept of lesser of two evils. We're either going to get drone strikes or costly, large-scale occupations. If I'm free to do whatever I want, I'm not broadly in favor of either of these options; but if I'm constrained to select one or the other, I'll take the drone strikes.
boards of FL wrote:Well, my moral code doesn't condone the act of torturing human beings; hence my moral code is superior to anyone else's that does condone the act of torturing human beings.
boards of FL wrote:The train operator - from my hypothetical question - who directs the train to the right, which results in the death of 10 people versus the death of 100 people doesn't condone the death of 10 people. That train operator merely sought to use his influence to minimize an inevitable negative outcome.
boards of FL wrote:If I'm on a long flight that offers three meals - filet mignon, circus peanuts, or dog food - and if by the time the steward reaches me they are out of filet mignon which causes me to select circus peanuts, that doesn't mean that I condone eating circus peanuts for dinner. It is an example of me opting for the lesser of two evils - circus peanuts or dog food.
boards of FL wrote:Applying this painfully clear logic to this thread: If I have to select between the democratic foreign policy of diplomacy, sanctions, and targeted drone strikes or the republican policy of full on occupation of countries that run into the trillions (and, torture, apparently), I'll take the democratic foreign policy. That doesn't mean that I condone the democratic foreign policy. It just means that I see that the republican policy is worse so I'll seek to avoid that.
boards of FL wrote:Someone who is forced to select between two clearly bad options is not necessarily condoning either option. They are selecting the lesser of two evils.
Seems fairly clear what I'm saying here, doesn't it? In fact, it seems excruciatingly obvious.
But, alas, I'm communicating with the illiterate....
Damaged Eagle wrote:Yet you're perfectly willing to condone such drone strikes on wedding parties and other peaceful activities to take out one or two suspected terrorists overseas and have been consist so far in saying it's the lesser of two evils.
I didn't edit any of that. That is exactly how stupid you come across on this forum, and that is precisely why most people ignore you. Oddly enough, you seem to have convinced yourself that it isn't your own incredible incompetence that is to blame for this. Of course not! It's actually because you make such cogent arguments! Cough...bullshit...cough.
Congratulations, Captain Dunning! You win another one!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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