Thousands of veterans triple dipping on disabilty

Vikingwoman wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

Vikingwoman wrote:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/30/veterans-caught-triple-dipping-on-benefits/


Hmmm?

Truly disgusting, all veterans should just be put to sleep so the country can save that money to hand over to more worthy people - like welfare entitlement whores.

For example, a single (imagine that) mother with two kids (both with different last names and no baby daddy in sight) can get Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, public housing, utility assistance and free commodities (like milk and cheese)  - without having to lift a finger. The more kids the baby momma pumps out the more money she gets.

That's at least SEVEN "entitlements" available to her even though many people in this category have never paid taxes.

Yea, those slacker Vet's don't deserve a dime.

Jesus-are you living in the past or what? Ever hear of the welfare reform law in 1996? You know the one Clinton passed but Gingrich took credit for. Five years lifetime max on welfare and no more assistance for additional kids while on welfare. Oh and try buying food on 75% of your food needs. That's what food stamps pay. They haven't given out milk and cheese commodities for a long time. Try updating your learned knowledge.

KarlRove wrote:

2seaoat wrote:There is no more to cut

It is not me who is in LaLa land if you believe there is no more to cut.  I could see 15-20% cuts over the next 20 years with great reductions in personnel and base closings.  You call yourself a Republican, but you sound like a spend spend spend democrat, which you constantly find fault.

In regard to those who volunteer for the service no longer choosing to serve, it will not be a problem until after we have cut the military spending and invest in America which will create private sector jobs.   When a young person has choices in regard to employment and their future, there will be competition, but currently there is no competition and young people are often left with no alternative but to join.   Growing our GDP and investing in America is the answer, and shrinking the military is one small part of that answer.

Less than 1 in 10 young people today even qualify physically for the military.  It's getting harder for recruiters to meet quotas and do so now just because of the cuts.

The military is just ONE part of the pie. There has to be some real reform with Social Security and other giveaways. At least vets earned their entitlements through sacrifice. How many illegals getting free healthcare and food stamps can say that? In Mexico one day and the next on welfare here having never contributed one iota.

KarlRove wrote:

2seaoat wrote:There is no more to cut

It is not me who is in LaLa land if you believe there is no more to cut.  I could see 15-20% cuts over the next 20 years with great reductions in personnel and base closings.  You call yourself a Republican, but you sound like a spend spend spend democrat, which you constantly find fault.

In regard to those who volunteer for the service no longer choosing to serve, it will not be a problem until after we have cut the military spending and invest in America which will create private sector jobs.   When a young person has choices in regard to employment and their future, there will be competition, but currently there is no competition and young people are often left with no alternative but to join.   Growing our GDP and investing in America is the answer, and shrinking the military is one small part of that answer.

Less than 1 in 10 young people today even qualify physically for the military.  It's getting harder for recruiters to meet quotas and do so now just because of the cuts.

The military is just ONE part of the pie. There has to be some real reform with Social Security and other giveaways. At least vets earned their entitlements through sacrifice. How many illegals getting free healthcare and food stamps can say that? In Mexico one day and the next on welfare here having never contributed one iota.

Joanimaroni wrote:Once again......
Just because illegal aliens are not legally entitled to these benefits does not mean they do not apply for them. Yes. It is true that illegal aliens have received grants, professional accreditations, loans, WIC, disability, public housing, college educations, food stamps, unemployment benefits, and tax credits from state and federal agencies.



How do they do it? Anchor babies,.over-staying a visa, and forged documents.

http://thelawdictionary.org/article/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps-health-insurance-and-pay-no-taxes/

PkrBum wrote:Didn't obama have some relatives here illegally that received benefits?

Gawd... you'ld think he'd have redistributed some of his own wealth for them. Lol... what was I thinking.

ppaca wrote:So some on hear are saying that someone who spent 20 years in the military and exposed to the following and has medical problems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/world/middleeast/-more-than-600-reported-chemical-weapons-exposure-in-iraq-pentagon-acknowledges.html?_r=0

And when being discharged works for 20 years paying into social security

SHOULD NOT RECEIVE VA DISABILITY CHECKS, SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS AND A RETIREMENT CHECK?

WHY?

First they served and retired, second medical conditions while serving and 3rd manage to work 20 more years with medical conditions.

As John Stossel would say and I will add a word: Give me a fucking break.

Vikingwoman wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Once again......
Just because illegal aliens are not legally entitled to these benefits does not mean they do not apply for them. Yes. It is true that illegal aliens have received grants, professional accreditations, loans, WIC, disability, public housing, college educations, food stamps, unemployment benefits, and tax credits from state and federal agencies.



How do they do it? Anchor babies,.over-staying a visa, and forged documents.

http://thelawdictionary.org/article/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps-health-insurance-and-pay-no-taxes/

And they were all American citizens...not illegals. Once again...you cannot get benefits legally if you are not a citizen. We're not talking about forged documents or fraud. Very few get away w/ that.

PkrBum wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Didn't obama have some relatives here illegally that received benefits?

Gawd... you'ld think he'd have redistributed some of his own wealth for them. Lol... what was I thinking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeituni_Onyango

ppaca wrote:

ppaca wrote:So some on hear are saying that someone who spent 20 years in the military and exposed to the following and has medical problems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/world/middleeast/-more-than-600-reported-chemical-weapons-exposure-in-iraq-pentagon-acknowledges.html?_r=0

And when being discharged works for 20 years paying into social security

SHOULD NOT RECEIVE VA DISABILITY CHECKS, SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS AND A RETIREMENT CHECK?

WHY?

First they served and retired, second medical conditions while serving and 3rd manage to work 20 more years with medical conditions.

As John Stossel would say and I will add a word: Give me a fucking break.

If they take all the illegals off their benefits and didn't hand out ssdi like it was candy the government could afford the above for the veteran.

ppaca wrote:So some on hear are saying that someone who spent 20 years in the military and exposed to the following and has medical problems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/world/middleeast/-more-than-600-reported-chemical-weapons-exposure-in-iraq-pentagon-acknowledges.html?_r=0

And when being discharged works for 20 years paying into social security

SHOULD NOT RECEIVE VA DISABILITY CHECKS, SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS AND A RETIREMENT CHECK?

WHY?

First they served and retired, second medical conditions while serving and 3rd manage to work 20 more years with medical conditions.

As John Stossel would say and I will add a word: Give me a fucking break.

PkrBum wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Didn't obama have some relatives here illegally that received benefits?

Gawd... you'ld think he'd have redistributed some of his own wealth for them. Lol... what was I thinking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeituni_Onyango

Vikingwoman wrote:

Fine they can get one or the other. Just like anybody else who serves as military or civilian. You seem to think just because you served you're entitled to the world while other people who had just as dangerous jobs don't get that? Give me a fucking break! Who the hell do you people think you are?

Vikingwoman wrote:

ppaca wrote:So some on hear are saying that someone who spent 20 years in the military and exposed to the following and has medical problems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/world/middleeast/-more-than-600-reported-chemical-weapons-exposure-in-iraq-pentagon-acknowledges.html?_r=0

And when being discharged works for 20 years paying into social security

SHOULD NOT RECEIVE VA DISABILITY CHECKS, SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS AND A RETIREMENT CHECK?

WHY?

First they served and retired, second medical conditions while serving and 3rd manage to work 20 more years with medical conditions.

As John Stossel would say and I will add a word: Give me a fucking break.

Fine they can get one or the other. Just like anybody else who serves as military or civilian. You seem to think just because you served you're entitled to the world while other people who had just as dangerous jobs don't get that? Give me a fucking break! Who the hell do you people think you are?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Wow thanks for making my point . Less than 1 percent ever serve of all citizens. Now of that 1 percent maybe 10 percent ever make it to disability or retirement.

How many teat suckers do you support that are on welfare? 45 million?

We are better than most. We answered the call of our country. We served when it wasnt even cool to do so.

What happened in your life to make you the old, bitter woman you have become? Did you choose not to serve?  Yes, u did.

Cops and fireman don't run into a hail of gunfire ever like Marines are taught to do( run to the sound of a firefight ). On convoy duty I was the dude running towards the incoming Safire.

Nobody deals with the sacrifice and the suffering of the military.  We are a special breed.... Sheep dogs. We protect the flock as grotesque as that sounds to you. You are a sheep. You resent my presence, but you want me protecting you along with my fellow servicemen.

You are one resentful old woman who regrets how her life has turned out and want to take it out on everyone. SAD.

knothead wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Wow thanks for making my point . Less than 1 percent ever serve of all citizens. Now of that 1 percent maybe 10 percent ever make it to disability or retirement.

How many teat suckers do you support that are on welfare? 45 million?

We are better than most. We answered the call of our country. We served when it wasnt even cool to do so.

What happened in your life to make you the old, bitter woman you have become? Did you choose not to serve?  Yes, u did.

Cops and fireman don't run into a hail of gunfire ever like Marines are taught to do( run to the sound of a firefight ). On convoy duty I was the dude running towards the incoming Safire.

Nobody deals with the sacrifice and the suffering of the military.  We are a special breed.... Sheep dogs. We protect the flock as grotesque as that sounds to you. You are a sheep. You resent my presence, but you want me protecting you along with my fellow servicemen.

You are one resentful old woman who regrets how her life has turned out and want to take it out on everyone. SAD.

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The military is an honorable and necessary element of our nation but to elevate it above of others who also serve in 'risky business' is nonsense.  It is that mental attitude of 'I'm special' that feeds into your own sense of entitlement of benefits . . . . . I have said before 'Thank You For Your Service" but please come down from the mount and quit watching too many movies like A Few Good Men . . . . . you are not Col. Jessep!!!

Joanimaroni wrote:They chose to serve and that IS special.

Sal wrote:I choose not to participate in fool's errands, PeeDawg.

I've got better things to do.