TEA PARTY LOSING STEAM? IF SO, BOUT TIME!

2seaoat wrote:Bs... please link this assertion you keep making.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

next.....oh racist one who hides those beliefs conveniently behind a bundle of libertarian mumbo jumbo which eliminates the very government which has freed Americans from Jim Crow. The Republican Party at the core is the party of racist. I grew up with a Republican Party which proudly freed the slaves and actively attacked Jim Crow.......yet you really are that lacking in cognitive ability, or integrity.....either way it does not change reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dixiecrat&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

The party did not run local or state candidates, and after the 1948 election its leaders generally returned to the Democratic Party. The Dixiecrats had little short-run impact on politics. However, they did have a long-term impact. The Dixiecrats began the weakening of the "Solid South" (the Democratic Party's total control of presidential elections in the South).

The term "Dixiecrat" is sometimes used by Northern Democrats to refer to all conservative white Southern Democrats from the 1940s to the 1990s, regardless of where they stood in 1948.

The States' Rights Democratic Party dissolved after the 1948 election, as Truman, the Democratic National Committee, and the New Deal Southern Democrats acted to ensure that the Dixiecrat movement would not return in the 1952 presidential election. Some local diehards, such as Leander Perez of Louisiana, attempted to keep it in existence in their districts. Regardless of the power struggle within the Democratic Party concerning segregation policy, the South remained a strongly Democratic voting bloc for local, state, and federal Congressional elections, but not in presidential elections.

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's your worst fear and the sad thing is that the Tea Party exists due to the fact that your party has been hijacked by the far left dominated by George Soros.

Please tell us how George Soros domninates the far left. I'm part of the far left and Mr. Soros hasn't influenced me a bit. Can you say the same for the Koch's on your side of the ledger?

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

It most certainly is true--the shutdown was a result of the failure of Congress to agree on a budget. Also, as I stated, in the polls, the majority of Americans are opposed to Obamacare. So--should our Congressional representatives listen to their constituents or not? We elect our Congress people to do the will of the people!

Like their ideological counterparts the racist Dixie Crats, the T-Partiers are radicals -- they exert tremendous influence over the mainstream republican party because of their numbers -- in simple terms, without their votes the republican's can't win elections.

It's becoming ever more clear lately, that with their votes the Republicans can't win elections either.

Once again, the basic problem for the republicans is to recognize that by appeasing the extremists of their party, they offend the majority of American voters.

The result, of course, are tactics which would, in effect, diminish the votes of minorities who would probably vote a democratic ticket. Unable to find a workable solution that would satisfy Dixiecrats, fundamentalist Christian evangelists, and T-party members, the republican party has no alternative but to manipulate via gerrymandering and voter restrictions.

Of course, none of those efforts will pay off ultimately, as the masses of the voting public recognize the republicans for what they are; a party of old white men.


Reality.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

The reform wasn't supposed to cost the taxpayer or increase the national deficit 'one thin dime' therefore it didn't require funding for the budget to be passed...

*****SMILE*****

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Wordslinger wrote:Like their ideological counterparts the racist Dixie Crats, the T-Partiers are radicals -- they exert tremendous influence over the mainstream republican party because of their numbers -- in simple terms, without their votes the republican's can't win elections.

It's becoming ever more clear lately, that with their votes the Republicans can't win elections either.

Once again, the basic problem for the republicans is to recognize that by appeasing the extremists of their party, they offend the majority of American voters.  

The result, of course, are tactics which would, in effect, diminish the votes of minorities who would probably vote a democratic ticket.  Unable to find a workable solution that would satisfy Dixiecrats, fundamentalist Christian evangelists, and T-party members, the republican party has no alternative but to manipulate via gerrymandering and voter restrictions.

Of course, none of those efforts will pay off ultimately, as the masses of the voting public recognize the republicans for what they are; a party of old white men.


Reality.

Yeah!!!!! Those Tea Partiers and Republicans are just a bunch of radicals... Unlike the extremists in the pictures above of the Occupy Movement that the current president and the rest of you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals support.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

 

2seaoat wrote:As you well know, the Ku Klux Klan was formed as a radical wing of the DEMOCRAT party.


As you know those same Dixiecrats left the Democratic Party because of the Civil Rights Act and now are the driving force in the Republican Party.  A plight on the Republican Party, and your other dishonesty is that Americans do not like the ACA......they love the components, and they dislike the messenger..........ACA is what the Democrats will run on in the Mid term....bet on it.......go ahead and try to tell folks with pre existing conditions, capped benefits, and throwing 26 year olds off their parents policies.......such idiocy deserves what is coming.

Really?



The Civil Rights Act of 1964

On June 19, the substitute (compromise) bill passed the Senate by a vote of 73–27, and quickly passed through the House-Senate conference committee, which adopted the Senate version of the bill. The conference bill was passed by both houses of Congress, and was signed into law by President Johnson on July 2, 1964.[18]

Vote totals[edit]

Totals are in "Yea–Nay" format:
The original House version: 290–130 (69–31%).
Cloture in the Senate: 71–29 (71–29%).
The Senate version: 73–27 (73–27%).
The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289–126 (70–30%).

By party[edit]

The original House version:[19]
Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:[20]
Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:[19]
Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

Wordslinger wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's your worst fear and the sad thing is that the Tea Party exists due to the fact that your party has been hijacked by the far left dominated by George Soros.

Please tell us how George Soros domninates the far left.  I'm part of the far left and Mr. Soros hasn't influenced me a bit.  Can you say the same for the Koch's on your side of the ledger?

You want others to believe your opinion of yourself, that you are so intelligent. Then you want us to believe you are this gullible? Which one?

  

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

It most certainly is true--the shutdown was a result of the failure of Congress to agree on a budget.   Also, as I stated, in the polls, the majority of Americans are opposed to Obamacare.  So--should our Congressional representatives listen to their constituents or not?   We elect our Congress people to do the will of the people!

Ok Neko and why wasn't the budget passed? The majority of Americans are not opposed to Obamacare. The majority of people polled were opposed not the majority of Americans. If you polled every person in this country Obamacare would win and that's a fact. The majority of people voted for the President who ran on Obamacare and the President won by 5 million so that's a false statement.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Ok Neko and why wasn't the budget passed?

Because your blood stained Nobel champion of peace refused to sign the one presented to him and closed down the government like a child who doesn't get his way.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pf8huWeoSo

  

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

It most certainly is true--the shutdown was a result of the failure of Congress to agree on a budget.   Also, as I stated, in the polls, the majority of Americans are opposed to Obamacare.  So--should our Congressional representatives listen to their constituents or not?   We elect our Congress people to do the will of the people!

Ok Neko and why wasn't the budget passed? The majority of Americans are not opposed to Obamacare. The majority of people polled were opposed not the majority of Americans. If you polled every person in this country Obamacare would win and that's a fact. The majority of people voted for the President who ran on Obamacare and the President won by 5 million so that's a false statement.

The budget wasn't passed because Congress refused to work together. I blame both sides, not just one.

How do you know if you polled every person in America that the majority supports Obamacare? Not every American voted in 2008 or in 2012 or in any election. You really think that the half dozen or so polls taken in the last month are ALL wrong?

I started this thread because it is an evolving political topic in American politics and begs for thorough discussion within the body politic and I find it somewhat interesting that the discussion has devolved into where the fault lies regarding the government shutdown.  Neko is correct when she states that the polls indicate that a majority of Americans disapprove of the PPACA.  That said I believe we need to recognize why that it is true . . . is it based on factual data (there is little) or is it based on the huge investment made by the GOP and their attendant sycophants to demonize 'anything Obama'?  The Obama administration botched the roll out and admittedly they shot themselves in the foot by doing so; however, it does not change the merits or intent of the Act.  We all know that the opponents of the Obamacare have invested huge amounts of cash into a campaign to demean the need to implement a change in health care delivery in our nation and that investment has paid dividends as reflected in the poll numbers.  My point is the polls are a summary of an investment in media campaigns to repeal what should have been considered a noble endeavor and nothing more.  Dreams you are absolutely correct when you state the Tea Party contingent was the reason why our government shut down whether it was the budget or because they were not getting what their 'constituency' wanted. . . . in either case it has become irrelevant.  A more relevant determination of the merits of the PPACA will be revealed by the election of 2016.

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

It most certainly is true--the shutdown was a result of the failure of Congress to agree on a budget.   Also, as I stated, in the polls, the majority of Americans are opposed to Obamacare.  So--should our Congressional representatives listen to their constituents or not?   We elect our Congress people to do the will of the people!

Ok Neko and why wasn't the budget passed? The majority of Americans are not opposed to Obamacare. The majority of people polled were opposed not the majority of Americans. If you polled every person in this country Obamacare would win and that's a fact. The majority of people voted for the President who ran on Obamacare and the President won by 5 million so that's a false statement.

The budget wasn't passed because Congress refused to work together.  I blame both sides, not just one.

How do you know if you polled every person in America that the majority supports Obamacare?  Not  every American voted in 2008 or in 2012 or in any election.   You really think that the half dozen or so polls taken in the last month are ALL wrong?  

Absolutely the polls are wrong. The polls are based on a small segment of people who they took the highest percentage from. I know that the majority supports Obamacare because they voted for him. He ran on that platform. If the people didn't want Obamacare they would have voted for Romney. The majority didn't vote for him. They voted for Obama which means they voted for Obamacare. Those polls mean nothing until they poll about everyone in the country and we know they didn't. Not even close.

knothead wrote:I started this thread because it is an evolving political topic in American politics and begs for thorough discussion within the body politic and I find it somewhat interesting that the discussion has devolved into where the fault lies regarding the government shutdown.  Neko is correct when she states that the polls indicate that a majority of Americans disapprove of the PPACA.  That said I believe we need to recognize why that it is true . . . is it based on factual data (there is little) or is it based on the huge investment made by the GOP and their attendant sycophants to demonize 'anything Obama'?  The Obama administration botched the roll out and admittedly they shot themselves in the foot by doing so; however, it does not change the merits or intent of the Act.  We all know that the opponents of the Obamacare have invested huge amounts of cash into a campaign to demean the need to implement a change in health care delivery in our nation and that investment has paid dividends as reflected in the poll numbers.  My point is the polls are a summary of an investment in media campaigns to repeal what should have been considered a noble endeavor and nothing more.  Dreams you are absolutely correct when you state the Tea Party contingent was the reason why our government shut down whether it was the budget or because they were not getting what their 'constituency' wanted. . . . in either case it has become irrelevant.  A more relevant determination of the merits of the PPACA will be revealed by the election of 2016.

You can't say the majority of Americans don't want Obamacare when they voted for Obama. It's just a sampling. It's not even close to telling what the majority wants. It's more accurate to say Americans wanted it as they voted for Obama.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:It is radical when you shut down the govt. trying to stop a national health care program.

The Tea Party didn't shut down the government.   It was all of Congress.   They wouldn't pass a damn budget.  That is their job!   In fact, the Obama admin shut down stuff that shouldn't have been shut down.   And if opposing Obamacare is radical then the majority of Americans being polled are radical.

Oh come on! It was the Tea Party radicals that tried to force stopping Obamacare by extortion, Neko and to say it wasn't is dishonest. 74% of those polled said they did not like what the repugs did and the majority of Americans are not against Obamacare.

The government shut down specifically because Congress did not pass a budget.  The majority of Americans in most polls that have been done have a negative opinion of Obamacare.

Not true, Neko. From Wiki.


"The United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to October 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4]"

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll.php

Amusing! A poll from a far left source whose only purpose is to bring us to Socialized medicine says THEY have an unbiased poll.



Then, and you can't make these things up, all they include are 18-34 year old people.

"here are the results of just some of the questions we asked the approximately 2,800 Americans ages 18 to 80. Remember that we initially set out to get information on the 18 to 34 year old demographic, we have limited the results to just that age group for now. You can however gain access to the full results and pull data on your own as you see fit."

Losing steam? LOL I know you wish it were true. Don't count on it.

No matter what names you call or how you try to demonize them, the TEA Party is going to be around and be a sharp thorn in Obama's side and every liberal's exploding brain.

Play your worn out race card if you must. Won't change a thing. That lame ass ship has sailed. LOL

Go on believing the BS MSNBC feeds you. It's expected as well as typical.

Gotta love the ignorance of the liberal mind set. LOL

The "party" is a movement. And, as many have said before, it will cause a the Democratic party to be the victor as it only splits votes on the Republican side.

  

If limiting govt has truly been labeled as radical and extreme... I think it's too late to expect a moderate dem or pub.

The results are nearly identical regardless. Govt grows... we the people lose.

PkrBum wrote:If limiting govt has truly been labeled as radical and extreme... I think it's too late to expect a moderate dem or pub.

The results are nearly identical regardless. Govt grows... we the people lose.

I agree. so we might as well start now casting our votes for those who still believe in the constitution. And if the republican party keeps loosing then so be it. The republican party has a chance to get back to being the party of the constitution. They will either do it, or nothing changes from our current state. Because right now all these rinos don't work, and damn sure aint voting for the communist party.

I don't know who im voting for yet, but ted cruz looks ok, rand paul does too.

oh and about obamacare. PEOPLE WILL BE VOTING WITH THIER FEET. Count on it LOL and it wont be in the lefts favor.

Nekochan wrote:

The budget wasn't passed because Congress refused to work together.  I blame both sides, not just one.

I don't know... I'm kinda enjoyin' laying the blame at Obama's feet right now... I figurer that after listenin' to FT and a few others be oblivious to all else and make it all Bush's fault all these years that I have at least another seven or eight years of Obama bashing & fault layin' to do to make up for lost time.

It's enjoyable watching the party of hope and change squirm because of their politicians of transparent government. The specs for that transparent government must have been to the lowest or was it the most incompetent government bidder, like they did with the online Obamacare, and called for to much lead in the glass.

*****CHUCKLE*****

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And while we're talking about the shutdown and how it was all Obama's fault.... I'd just like to mention that it takes a pretty childlike mentality on the current presidents part to close down public monuments, national parks, public museums, etc, etc, etc,... just because Obama wasn't presented the budget he demanded like a crying toddler.

*****CHUCKLE*****

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There are 2 kinds of teabaggers
billionaires and suckers
check your wallet to see which one you are.

polecat wrote:There are 2 kinds of teabaggers
billionaires and suckers
check your wallet to see which one you are.

Very well stated, Polecat.   

Well we all know the biggest suckers were the ones who voted for Hope, Change, & Transparency...

*****ROFLMAO*****

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