Obamacare being pushed by Hospitals? WTH

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

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I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

My statement is totally accurate it's yours that is inaccurate.

Are you now saying that there are not free clinics that people who do not have the cash/assets can not go to?

If that's what you're saying then I don't believe you.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

*****SMILE*****

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Try to go to a clinic to get your broken arm set. LOL!

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

My statement is totally accurate it's yours that is inaccurate.

Are you now saying that there are not free clinics that people who do not have the cash/assets can not go to?

If that's what you're saying then I don't believe you.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzUCO7rG0M

Try to go to a clinic to get your broken arm set. LOL!

Try getting big business to comply with your grandiose health care mandate without any waivers or delays then get back with me as to whether I should care or be willing to force people to comply with your individual mandate.

Oh that's right!!!!! PkrBum's already shown that you can't... more likely won't... do that because your heroes that forced this unread legislation onto the people, and most likely yourself, are in bed with most of those big businesses.

Until then unless your individual with the broken arm is close kin they are a charity case. If you ask nicely I might help by providing some money to set that arm but forcing me and other individuals at the point of a sword is not charity.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

*****CHUCKLE*****

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Perhaps the damage you have suffered is in reading comprehension, Mr. Eagle.  The question high-lighted above tells me that you have not read the first one of my posts. Or, that you have read them, but cannot comprehend.
So sorry.
I have been arguing for all Americans to see a doctor on a regular basis in order to live healthier lives and therefore reducing future healthcare costs. I also have been arguing against giving away free healthcare. You, Mr. Eagle, and you ilk have been arguing exactly the opposite.  
So, what you typed above absolutely does not sum up my position.  My position has been clear since I started posting on this cute, little forum.
Reading is fundamental, Mr. Eagle.  Perhaps if you could read a post objectively, then you would not ask questions like the above one making yourself look totally uninformed, and unable to comprehend simple ideas.
So sad.

"Reading is fundamental."  Bert and Ernie

My reading comprehension is just fine. I suggest that it's your ability to speak and write comprehensively that is ultimately lacking and I suspect that being from your having had to many bad schrooms.

All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings.

But I see now from your dictatorial musings that you feel all Americans should be required to see a doctor like it's a mandatory thing (NOTE: Blue highlighted sentence in your post). Might I suggest a excellent psychiatrist or two for yourself since you're apparently having some sort of superiority complex that leads you to be obsessive compulsive about the lives of others.

You are correct that reading is fundamental but comprehending what you are reading is an absolute necessity that you are apparently incapable of even after all this time on the forum.

Furthermore perhaps you should think, which I am doubtful you are capable of, prior to writing your nonsense and people wouldn't be writing you statements... and questions over your psychotic ramblings that you become belligerent about.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hL6fkJ1_k

Floridatexan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Yhq1EwO5E

 

Perhaps the damage you have suffered is in reading comprehension, Mr. Eagle.  The question high-lighted above tells me that you have not read the first one of my posts. Or, that you have read them, but cannot comprehend.
So sorry.
I have been arguing for all Americans to see a doctor on a regular basis in order to live healthier lives and therefore reducing future healthcare costs. I also have been arguing against giving away free healthcare. You, Mr. Eagle, and you ilk have been arguing exactly the opposite.  
So, what you typed above absolutely does not sum up my position.  My position has been clear since I started posting on this cute, little forum.
Reading is fundamental, Mr. Eagle.  Perhaps if you could read a post objectively, then you would not ask questions like the above one making yourself look totally uninformed, and unable to comprehend simple ideas.
So sad.

"Reading is fundamental."  Bert and Ernie

My reading comprehension is just fine. I suggest that it's your ability to speak and write comprehensively that is ultimately lacking and I suspect that being from your having had to many bad schrooms.

All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings.

But I see now from your dictatorial musings that you feel all Americans should be required to see a doctor like it's a mandatory thing (NOTE: Blue highlighted sentence in your post). Might I suggest a excellent psychiatrist or two for yourself since you're apparently having some sort of superiority complex that leads you to be obsessive compulsive about the lives of others.

You are correct that reading is fundamental but comprehending what you are reading is an absolute necessity that you are apparently incapable of even after all this time on the forum.

Furthermore perhaps you should think, which I am doubtful you are capable of, prior to writing your nonsense and people wouldn't be writing you statements... and questions over your psychotic ramblings that you become belligerent about.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hL6fkJ1_k

Right, fool...All Americans are free to sit in any emergency room 'til hell freezes over waiting for some kind of relief from whatever ails them...when they get the bill, they KNOW what ails them.  No American has ever avoided going to a doctor because they don't have insurance, while their symptoms grow worse.  You are completely clueless...and a little puny creepy punk.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

My statement is totally accurate it's yours that is inaccurate.

Are you now saying that there are not free clinics that people who do not have the cash/assets can not go to?

If that's what you're saying then I don't believe you.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzUCO7rG0M

Try to go to a clinic to get your broken arm set. LOL!

Try getting big business to comply with your grandiose health care mandate without any waivers or delays then get back with me as to whether I should care or be willing to force people to comply with your individual mandate.

Oh that's right!!!!! PkrBum's already shown that you can't... more likely won't... do that because your heroes that forced this unread legislation onto the people, and most likely yourself, are in bed with most of those big businesses.

Until then unless your individual with the broken arm is close kin they are a charity case. If you ask nicely I might help by providing some money to set that arm but forcing me and other individuals at the point of a sword is not charity.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

My statement is totally accurate it's yours that is inaccurate.

Are you now saying that there are not free clinics that people who do not have the cash/assets can not go to?

If that's what you're saying then I don't believe you.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzUCO7rG0M

Try to go to a clinic to get your broken arm set. LOL!

Try getting big business to comply with your grandiose health care mandate without any waivers or delays then get back with me as to whether I should care or be willing to force people to comply with your individual mandate.

Oh that's right!!!!! PkrBum's already shown that you can't... more likely won't... do that because your heroes that forced this unread legislation onto the people, and most likely yourself, are in bed with most of those big businesses.

Until then unless your individual with the broken arm is close kin they are a charity case. If you ask nicely I might help by providing some money to set that arm but forcing me and other individuals at the point of a sword is not charity.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

You don't have health insurance? Is this the case w/ you that you are being forced to have it? Then I am glad people like you are forced to have it. Everybody needs health insurance and the people who are complaining the worst are the ones who have it so what's really the point of your complaints? Is it the fact that somebody might get something for free? LOL!

Dreamsglore wrote:
You don't have health insurance? Is this the case w/ you that you are being forced to have it? Then I am glad people like you are forced to have it. Everybody needs health insurance and the people who are complaining the worst are the ones who have it so what's really the point of your complaints? Is it the fact that somebody might get something for free? LOL!

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:
You don't have health insurance? Is this the case w/ you that you are being forced to have it? Then I am glad people like you are forced to have it. Everybody needs health insurance and the people who are complaining the worst are the ones who have it so what's really the point of your complaints? Is it the fact that somebody might get something for free? LOL!

Oh! It's not 'free'. If it was 'free' then your buddies in big business would be bending over backwards to comply with your messiah's frakked up legislation. I know plenty of people who are paying for health insurance who are barely making it. Your idea of 'free' has already made it worse for them because of the constant premium increases that have occurred since this Frakked up legislation has been passed.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tna0Mmu1XlI

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:
You don't have health insurance? Is this the case w/ you that you are being forced to have it? Then I am glad people like you are forced to have it. Everybody needs health insurance and the people who are complaining the worst are the ones who have it so what's really the point of your complaints? Is it the fact that somebody might get something for free? LOL!

Oh! It's not 'free'. If it was 'free' then your buddies in big business would be bending over backwards to comply with your messiah's frakked up legislation. I know plenty of people who are paying for health insurance who are barely making it. Your idea of 'free' has already made it worse for them because of the constant premium increases that have occurred since this Frakked up legislation has been passed.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tna0Mmu1XlI

Bullshit! Mine went down and so has tons of people. You're trying to blame that on Obamacare because you have no argument.

doubtingthomas wrote:Fact: Some people will get it free.

Fact: Rate increases started going up double digits early in Bush's administration, leveled out and did actually go down in some group's up until this year, where they have started easing up again. Group insurance rate increases are based on claim's experience and respective state's department of insurance and what they tell an insurance company they must have in reserves. But some employer's may not have received an increase but limited their contribution and told employee's that the insurance company raised their rates. Self insured groups could decrease or increase their premiums.

Individual rates have constantly gone up in the past 10 years.

Now on to this year, most group's did get double digit rate increases and yes some of it was due to obamacare. You don't think they're going to pay the extra taxes without passing it on.

If a group this year had a decrease I would suspect the employer changed the plan and raised deductible's or copays. In 2014 there is absolutely no reason (except to retain a high paid employee over 400 FPL)to keep group insurance if employer is under 50. Most of these in the panhandle their employee's would get insurance cheaper on the exchange.

Chrissy wrote:

doubtingthomas wrote:Fact: Some people will get it free.

Fact: Rate increases started going up double digits early in Bush's administration, leveled out and did actually go down in some group's up until this year, where they have started easing up again. Group insurance rate increases are based on claim's experience and respective state's department of insurance and what they tell an insurance company they must have in reserves. But some employer's may not have received an increase but limited their contribution and told employee's that the insurance company raised their rates. Self insured groups could decrease or increase their premiums.

Individual rates have constantly gone up in the past 10 years.

Now on to this year, most group's did get double digit rate increases and yes some of it was due to obamacare. You don't think they're going to pay the extra taxes without passing it on.

If a group this year had a decrease I would suspect the employer changed the plan and raised deductible's or copays. In 2014 there is absolutely no reason (except to retain a high paid employee over 400 FPL)to keep group insurance if employer is under 50. Most of these in the panhandle their employee's would get insurance cheaper on the exchange.

Thomas, you make the claim that most of these people would get coverage cheaper on the exchanges. Prove that.

What is left on the exchanges that will get people good quality service?

I see jumping ships from where im sitting. been dealing with it all year.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/10/news/economy/obamacare-insurers/index.html

I just watched recently united drop medicare advantage plans.

from where I sit. it appears to me that people are going to be signing up with shit companies and they will receive shit service because hardly anyone is going to be taking that shit. < sorry cant put it any nicer lol

Well your 1st statement "prove it" can't right now, but if a plan is let's say $500 a month and that person is in the 150-200% of poverty level their rate will be practically nothing if anything depending on the metal level they chose.

I guess one misconception is that obamacare is a plan that obama put pen to paper. It was mandated what benefits and what metal level's but the insurer's put their plans together. They are all out and not published all over the internet. I have seen every plan by Blue Cross in Florida, damn good one's and many of them. That article is funny since Aetna is on the Federal Exchange in Florida. Speaking of shit service the plans will still be administered and claims paid by the insurance companies just like always. The only thing that is mandated within the plans are benefits they must have.

United Healthcare if that is what you're referring to I think did drop an HMO plan in Florida this year for Med Advantage but still has their Medicare Complete PPO. It is not UHC that is dropping hospitals and doctor's but the other way around since it takes tooth and nails to get them to pay a claim. At least that's what one of my good Doctor friends tell me up here.

Here are a list of companies that will be in the federal facilitated marketplace: 3 of them are Florida Blue Companies

-Humana Health Insurance Co.(HMO)
--Aetna Life Insurance Co.
--Blue Cross & Blue Shield of Florida Inc.
--Cigna Health & Life Insurance Co.
--Coventry Health Care of Florida Inc. (HMO)
--Florida Health Care Plan Inc..(HMO)
--Health Options Inc.(HMO)
--Molina Healthcare of Florida Inc.(HMO)
--Simply Healthcare Plans Inc.(HMO)
--Sunshine State Health Plan Inc.(HMO)

The last three have been mostly medicaid companies. In Escambia county individuals will have 4 of these companies and two are Florida Blue, Santa Rosa will have 3 and 2 are Florida Blue, Okaloosa and Walton and Bay only have two of the Florida Blue. This is on the exchange. UHC (golden rule) did not file plans on the exchange and last check with OIR did not file any plans off exchange with mandated benefits for Jan 1, 2014.

No one has to purchase on the marketplace, everyone is free to buy off exchange, they just won't receive a subsidy.

PkrBum wrote:We will see people that are in a margin... that may have been afloat... but will be forced/mandated into a tough spot.

I don't know how anyone can look at this law realistically and not realize that. Then we have the young... good luck kids.

doubtingthomas wrote:Fact: Some people will get it free.

Fact: Rate increases started going up double digits early in Bush's administration, leveled out and did actually go down in some group's up until this year, where they have started easing up again. Group insurance rate increases are based on claim's experience and respective state's department of insurance and what they tell an insurance company they must have in reserves. But some employer's may not have received an increase but limited their contribution and told employee's that the insurance company raised their rates. Self insured groups could decrease or increase their premiums.

Individual rates have constantly gone up in the past 10 years.

Now on to this year, most group's did get double digit rate increases and yes some of it was due to obamacare. You don't think they're going to pay the extra taxes without passing it on.

If a group this year had a decrease I would suspect the employer changed the plan and raised deductible's or copays. In 2014 there is absolutely no reason (except to retain a high paid employee over 400 FPL)to keep group insurance if employer is under 50. Most of these in the panhandle their employee's would get insurance cheaper on the exchange.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

Perhaps the damage you have suffered is in reading comprehension, Mr. Eagle.  The question high-lighted above tells me that you have not read the first one of my posts. Or, that you have read them, but cannot comprehend.
So sorry.
I have been arguing for all Americans to see a doctor on a regular basis in order to live healthier lives and therefore reducing future healthcare costs. I also have been arguing against giving away free healthcare.
So, what you typed above absolutely does not sum up my position.  My position has been clear since I started posting on this cute, little forum.
So sad.

"Reading is fundamental."  Bert and Ernie

My reading comprehension is just fine. I suggest that it's your ability to speak and write comprehensively that is ultimately lacking and I suspect that being from your having had to many bad schrooms.

All Americans blah, blah, attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings.
But blah, blah, blah others.
You are correct that reading is fundamental but comprehending what you are reading is an absolute necessity that you are apparently incapable of even after all this time on the forum.
.
*****CHUCKLE*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hL6fkJ1_k

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

Perhaps the damage you have suffered is in reading comprehension, Mr. Eagle.  The question high-lighted above tells me that you have not read the first one of my posts. Or, that you have read them, but cannot comprehend.
So sorry.
I have been arguing for all Americans to see a doctor on a regular basis in order to live healthier lives and therefore reducing future healthcare costs. I also have been arguing against giving away free healthcare.
So, what you typed above absolutely does not sum up my position.  My position has been clear since I started posting on this cute, little forum.
So sad.

"Reading is fundamental."  Bert and Ernie

My reading comprehension is just fine. I suggest that it's your ability to speak and write comprehensively that is ultimately lacking and I suspect that being from your having had to many bad schrooms.

All Americans blah, blah, attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings.
But blah, blah, blah others.
You are correct that reading is fundamental but comprehending what you are reading is an absolute necessity that you are apparently incapable of even after all this time on the forum.
.
*****CHUCKLE*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hL6fkJ1_k

Thanks for the laugh, Mr. Eagle.  I guess I hit a nerve questioning your reading comprehension.  In your temper tantrum which really said nothing but shallow humorless attempts to insult me, you were very confused....
The first above highlighted word should have been: 'coherently.'  Let me help with your confusion......

co·her·ent
[koh-heer-uhnt]
adjective
1. logically connected; consistent: a coherent argument.
2. cohering; sticking together: a coherent mass of sticky candies.
3. having a natural or due agreement of parts; harmonious: a coherent design.
4. Physics, Optics. of or pertaining to waves that maintain a fixed phase relationship, as in coherent light.

In a less egregious error, the second highlighted word should be: 'too.'

My posts are always concise and coherent.  Unfortunately for the readers of this little forum, your posts are usually full of hateful, bigoted drivel that is not concise and never coherent.
So sad that in your attempts to sound intelligent, you just make yourself look more and more like the uninformed bigot that you are.
So sorry.

"You can tell a bigot; but not much."

doubtingthomas wrote:BTW, although this does need working on in the near future 60-70% of applications for individual only get approved without any exclusions or ratings in Florida. Of that 30-40% left a good percentage are completely uninsurable.

PBulldog2 wrote:

doubtingthomas wrote:BTW, although this does need working on in the near future 60-70% of applications for individual only get approved without any exclusions or ratings in Florida. Of that 30-40% left a good percentage are completely uninsurable.

DT, I'm not sure what you mean here. You don't mean that some people will remain uninsurable through the exchange, do you?

PBulldog2 wrote:

doubtingthomas wrote:BTW, although this does need working on in the near future 60-70% of applications for individual only get approved without any exclusions or ratings in Florida. Of that 30-40% left a good percentage are completely uninsurable.

DT, I'm not sure what you mean here. You don't mean that some people will remain uninsurable through the exchange, do you?

Chrissy wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote:

doubtingthomas wrote:BTW, although this does need working on in the near future 60-70% of applications for individual only get approved without any exclusions or ratings in Florida. Of that 30-40% left a good percentage are completely uninsurable.

DT, I'm not sure what you mean here. You don't mean that some people will remain uninsurable through the exchange, do you?

PB. you guys act as if Thomas is the know all of this subject , he is not.

and YES. some people will remain uninsurable. the obamcare plan hopes to get coverage for about 6 of every 10 uninsured Americans.

but heres a good article to start on explaining that there re still going to be uninsured and lots of em.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/10/if-all-states-expand-medicaid-obamacare-still-leaves-millions-uncovered/

Chrissy wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote:

doubtingthomas wrote:BTW, although this does need working on in the near future 60-70% of applications for individual only get approved without any exclusions or ratings in Florida. Of that 30-40% left a good percentage are completely uninsurable.

DT, I'm not sure what you mean here. You don't mean that some people will remain uninsurable through the exchange, do you?

PB. you guys act as if Thomas is the know all of this subject , he is not.

and YES. some people will remain uninsurable. the obamcare plan hopes to get coverage for about 6 of every 10 uninsured Americans.

but heres a good article to start on explaining that there re still going to be uninsured and lots of em.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/10/if-all-states-expand-medicaid-obamacare-still-leaves-millions-uncovered/