Obamacare being pushed by Hospitals? WTH

Chrissy, are you selling obamacare down there in your parts. Oh I meant the hospital not your actual parts. 

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2013/September/13/hospitals-insurance-marketplaces-exchanges-marketing.aspx

doubtingthomas wrote:Chrissy, are you selling obamacare down there in your parts. Oh I meant the hospital not your actual parts. 

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2013/September/13/hospitals-insurance-marketplaces-exchanges-marketing.aspx

What?    
Chrissy is selling her body parts to hospitals.

The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

No racism boy, we can't stand it because all of us who have actual jobs will be the ones paying for it.

CarlSagan wrote:The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

RACISTS..!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/business/unions-misgivings-on-health-law-burst-into-view.html?_r=0

Labor’s renewed anger over Mr. Obama’s health care law and decisions surrounding it, especially the postponement of an employer mandate to ensure coverage for workers and the potential effects of the coming health insurance exchanges on existing plans.

According to officials briefed on the call, the president voiced concern about labor’s criticisms, prompting the union federation’s leader, Richard Trumka, to promise that he would try to soften the harshly worded resolutions that several unions planned to push at this week’s A.F.L.-C.I.O. convention in Los Angeles.

Despite overtures on both sides — with Mr. Obama agreeing on the call to sit down with some union leaders to address their concerns at the White House, and Mr. Trumka initially hoping to quash such a public rift between the president and his party’s traditional allies — labor leaders criticized the administration and Congress on Wednesday at their convention.

While praising the overall legislation, the delegates overwhelmingly passed a sharply worded resolution that demanded changes to some of its regulations, although Mr. Trumka made sure to strip out some proposals that called for repealing the legislation.

At the convention, though, several labor leaders spoke their minds.

“If the Affordable Care Act is not fixed and it destroys the health and welfare funds that we have fought for and stand for, then I believe it needs to be repealed,” said Terence M. O’Sullivan, president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America. “We don’t want it to be repealed. We want it to be fixed, fixed, fixed.

“We’ve had our asses kicked on retirement security and we know our health funds are under siege,” he added. “We ask the president and Congress to do the right thing for the men and women we represent.”

Id rather sell my body parts then help the country die.

and not to my knowledge down here but I wouldn't be surprised. ACA is the law of the land, nothing can be done about it. They will never repeal it as a whole and it would take years to repeal it piece by piece hence its so big, I think they knew that.

So hospitals and any other healthcare facility are stuck with either trying to make it benefit them or work or just sitting idle by the way side. I imagine some of these hospitals will comb their books for non pays and chronically ill patients to give them a call and get them signed up. Don't hold your breath that they will call all their good paying customers. These people aint stupid.

CarlSagan wrote:The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Yhq1EwO5E

 

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Yhq1EwO5E

 

Perhaps the damage you have suffered is in reading comprehension, Mr. Eagle.  The question high-lighted above tells me that you have not read the first one of my posts. Or, that you have read them, but cannot comprehend.
So sorry.
I have been arguing for all Americans to see a doctor on a regular basis in order to live healthier lives and therefore reducing future healthcare costs. I also have been arguing against giving away free healthcare. You, Mr. Eagle, and you ilk have been arguing exactly the opposite.  
So, what you typed above absolutely does not sum up my position.  My position has been clear since I started posting on this cute, little forum.
Reading is fundamental, Mr. Eagle.  Perhaps if you could read a post objectively, then you would not ask questions like the above one making yourself look totally uninformed, and unable to comprehend simple ideas.
So sad.

"Reading is fundamental."  Bert and Ernie

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title26/html/USCODE-2011-title26-subtitleD-chap48-sec5000A.htm

List of unions, corps, associations... etc... that have been exempted from obamacare. Not including religions or certain ethnic groups. And I'll ask here too... why were corporations given a year reprieve... but the workers were not? Where's that social justice thingy?

1199SEIU Greater New York Benefit Fund 24 Hour Fitness A. Duda & Sons,Inc. A-1 Realty* A-1 Transport AABR* ABCO Diecasters* AccessAbility,Inc. Ackerman Oil Employee Benefit Trust Act Trust Mini-Med Plan Adecco Group,Inc. Advantage Benefits Company,LLC AdvantaStaff,Inc. † Adventist Care Centers Advocacy and Resource Center* Aegis Aegis Security Insurance Company † Aerospace Contractors’ Trust** Aetna Agricare AIDS Council of Northeastern New York AJFC Community Action Plan** Alaska Pipe Trade U.A. Local 367 Health and Security Trust** Alaska Seafood Albany County Chapter,NYSARC Inc.,DBA New Visions of Albany* Alfred P. Sloan* Alizio & Galfunt* All American Heating and AC* Allen’s Family Food Allflex Alliance One Tobacco Allied Building Inspectors IUOE Local 211 Welfare Fund Allied Pilots Association Allied Welfare Fund Alpha Omega Home Health,LLC Altisource Portfolio Solutions Amalgamated National Health Fund Amalgamated,Industrial and Toy & Novelty Workers of America,Local 223 Sick Benefit Fund American Eagle Outfitters American Farms,PRM Health Plan** American Fidelity American Growers Cooling,PRM Health Plan** American Habilitation Services,Inc. † American Heritage Life Insurance Company American Radio Association Plan Americare Properties,Inc. AMF Bowling Worldwide Amherst Central School District* AMN Healthcare Andersen Corporation Anderson Media Corporation Andrews Transport L.P.** Anoka Hennepin Credit Union* ** APWU Health Plan Conversion Plan AristaCare at Meadow Springs* Arthur Sanderson& Sons* Asbestos Workers Local 53 Welfare Fund Aspen Snowmass** Assisted Living Concepts Associated General Contractors of ND Employees* Assurant Health (2nd Application) ATCO Rubber Products,Inc Atlanta Plumbers & Steamfitters Fringe Benefit Funds Atlantis Casino Resort Spa Aurora Consulting Group,Inc.* Autistic Service,Inc.* AUTO,LP,dba AutoInc. Health Benefit Plan** Avon Central School District Azeros Health Plans,Inc.* B. R. Company B.E.S.T of NY Baptist Retirement Bartech Group Basf Fuel Cell,Inc.* Basin Disposal Battery Park City Authority* Battery Park City Conservancy* Baylor County Hospital District BCS Insurance Becker County Post-Retirement Health Care Savings Plan* Becker County VEBA* Belk Farms** Belmont Village Benefit Analysis Inc.* Bengard Ranch,Inc. Benton County* Bessey Tools,Inc. Bestway Rental,Inc Better Way Partners,LLC** Big Lots,Inc. Big Valley Labor,PRM Health Plan** Biomedic Corporation Blasters,Drillers & Miners Union Local No. 29 Welfare Fund Blaze SSI* Blue Beacon Board of Trustees for the Operating Engineers Local 101 Health and Welfare Fund Boskovich Farms,Inc Bowman Sheet Metal Heating & Air-conditioning Bricklayers Insurance & Welfare Fund Bricklayers Local 1 of MD,VA and DC Bridge,Structural,Ornamental & Reinforcing Ironworkers Local Union No. 60* Britz Companies,ET AL Brock Enterprises,Inc. Buffets,Inc. Business Wire* Byrd Harvest,Inc. Café Enterprises,Inc. Caliber Services Canandaigua City Schools* Capital District Physicians Captain Elliot’s Party Boats Cardinal Hayes Home for Children HRA plan* Cardon & Associates,Inc** Care Initiatives,Inc. Carey Johnson Oil Co,Inc Cargo Ventures* Caribbean Workers’ Voluntary Employees’ Beneficiary Health and Welfare Plan † Carington Health System Carlson Restaurants Carnegie Corporation of NY* Carpenters Health and Security Trust of Western Washington Carpenters Local No. 491 Health & Welfare Plan Case & Associates Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Albany* Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Ogdensburg CB Harvesting,PRM Health Plan** CDS Administrative Services,LLC Cement and Concrete Workers District Council Welfare Fund Plan Cement Masons’ Local No. 502 Welfare Fund Center for Energy and Environment* Central Laborers’ Welfare Fund Central Mills** Central States,Southeast and Southwest Areas Health and Welfare Fund Central Texas Health and Benefit Trust Fund Locals 520,60 & 72 Century Health and Wellness Benefit Plan and Trust CH Guenther & Son CIGNA City of Bloomington VEBA Health Savings Plan* City of Brooklyn Park* City of Burnsville* City of Cottage Grove* City of Eagan* City of Inver Grove Heights* City of Olathe* City of Rockwall** City Of Roseville MN* City of Shakopee Post-Employment Health Care Savings Account Plan * Civil Service Bar Association Security Benefit Fund** CKM Industries dba Miller Environmental Clausen Miller PC Cleveland Bakers Teamsters Clinton Management* Cloquet Area Fire Department* Club Chef LLC COARC* Cocopah Nurseries,Inc. Cohen Partners* Columbia SussexMgmt,LLC Communicare Health Benefits Trust Communications Workers of America,Local 1180 Security Benefits Fund Community Bank of Bergen County* Community Mainstreaming* Community Work and Independence Inc. Construction Workers Local 147 Welfare Fund Continuing Developmental Services Contract Cleaners Service Employees Benefit Trust Convergys Cornerstone Search Group* Cotton Belt Inc.** CPC Logistics Health & Welfare Plan** Cracker Barrel CRST International Inc. Cryogenic Crystal Cabinet Works,Inc. Crystal Run Healthcare Crystal Run Village,Inc* CU*Answers,Inc. D & D Ag Supply and Construction,Inc.* Darden Restaurants Darensberries Darr Equipment,Co. D’Arrigo Bros. Co. of California DC Cement Masons Welfare Fund Deaconess Long Term Care Defender Services,Inc. Delmarva United Food and Commercial Workers** Delta Apparel Dial Senior Management,Inc Diamond Comic Distributors,Inc. Diamondback Management Services,LTD DineEquity,Inc Discovery Benefits* DISH Network District Council 1707 Local 389 Home Care Employees Health & Welfare Fund Diversified Interiors Dole Food Company** Douglaston Development* Dr. Margaret Andrin,MD FACOG LLC* Dr. Trailer Repair,Inc. Duarte Nursery Dynasil Corporation* EBSA Foundation Echo Molding* EchoStar** ECOM Atlantic,Inc. Eighth District Electrical Benefit Fund Electrical Welfare Trust Fund Electrical Workers Health and Welfare Fund Electricians Health,Welfare & Pension Plans I.B.E.W. Local Union No. 995 Employees Security Fund Employer-Teamsters Local Nos. 175 & 505 Health and Welfare Fund Encore Enterprises Enterprise Concrete Products,LLC Texas Entrust Epilepsy Foundation Northeastern New York* Epilepsy Foundation* EssexCounty Chapter NYSARC,Inc. dba Mountain Lake Services* Euromarket Designs,Inc.,d/b/a Crate and Barrel Evans Chemetics* Excellus Health Plan Executive Management Services,Inc. Express Harvesting,PRM Health Plan** Fabri-Quilt Fairport Central School District* Fallen Oak Packing,PRM Health Plan** Faurecia USA Holdings FIDUCIA* First Acceptance Corporation First National Bank of Dietrerich FirstCarolinaCare Insurance Company on behalf of Longworth Industries FleetPride,Inc. Florida Laborers Health Fund Florida Trowel Trades Fontanese Folts Aubrecht Ernst Architects,PC** Foot Locker,Inc.** Forest Products Inc. Group Health Plan** Fowler Packing Co. Franziska Racker Centers* Freeman Metal Products Fresh Express Fridley Public Schools Health Savings Plan* Fruhauf Uniform Direct Labor FSA/SUNYAB-Campus Dining and Shops Fulton County Chapter NYSARC,Inc.* FW Walton,Inc. G&H Farms,PRM Health Plan** G4S Secure Solutions Gallegos Corp GC Harvesting,Inc. GC Services,L.P. & First Community Bancshares,Inc. General Parts,LLC* Genesee County ARC* Genesee County Economic Development Corp Health Reimbursement Account* Gill Ranch,PRM Health Plan** Gill Transport,PRM Health Plan** Gills Onions,PRM Health Plan** Glen Curtis,Inc. #2143 Golden State Bulb Growers,Inc.** Goodwill Industries of Central Indiana Goodwill Industries of Kentucky,Inc. Gowan Company GPM Investments Grace Living Centers Grand Island Central School District* Greater Kansas City Laborers Welfare Fund** Greater Metropolitan Hotel Green Leaf Distributors,Inc. Green Valley Farm Supply,PRM Health Plan** Greencroft Communities Gregory Packaging* Greystar Greystone program,Inc* Groendyke Transport, Inc Growers Express,PRM Health Plan** Grower’s Transport LLC GSC-ILA Guardsmark,LLC GuideStone Financial Resources Gulf Coast Health Care Guy C. Lee Mfg. Hacienda Harvesting,Inc. Hall Management Group,Inc.** Hammondsport Central School District Handcraft Manufacturing Corporation* Harden Healthcare Hardwick Clothes,Inc. Haver Analytics Health Waiver* HCR Manor Care Health and Welfare Fund of the Detectives’ Endowment Association,Inc. Police Department City of New York Health and Welfare Plan of the Laundry,Dry Cleaning Workers & Allied Industry Health Fund,Workers United Health Care Employees Dental and Medical Trust HealthPort Heartland Automotive** Helfman Enterprises,Inc.** Hensley Industries,Inc. Heritage Christian Services Hiawatha Medical,Inc.* Highfield Gardens Care Center* Highmark West Virginia Inc. d/b/a Mountain State Blue Cross Blue Shield Hirsch International* Hollow Metal Trust Fund Hoosier Stamping and Manufacturing Corp. Horizon Bay Realty LLC** Hotel,Restaurant & Bar Employees Health and Welfare Fund Hronis,Inc. HypexInc.* I.B.E.W. Local 1249 Insurance Fund** I.U.P.A.T IBEW Local 3 NYC Electrical Division Health & Welfare Fund IBEW Local 613 and Contributing Employers Family Health Plan (Union) IBEW Local No. 640 and Arizona Chapter NECA Health & Welfare Trust Fund IBEW Local Union No. 126 Health and Welfare Fund IBEW Local Union No. 728 Family Healthcare Plan IBEW No.915 IH Services** Imperial Wholesale,Inc. Independent Group Home Living Program,Inc. Indiana Area UFCW Union Locals and Retail Food Employers’ Health and Welfare Plan Indiana Teamsters Health Benefits Fund Ingham County Ingles Markets Ingomar Packing Company,LLC Innovative Driver Services Company Integra BMS for Culp,Inc. Integra Healthcare,Inc. (Integrity Home Care)** Integrity Data* Inter-County Hospitalization Plan,Inc. International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers** International Brotherhood of Trade Unions Health and Welfare Fund - Local 713 International Union of Bricklayers & Allied Craftworkers International Union of Operating Engineers Local 295-295C Welfare Trust Fund** International union of Operating Engineers,Local Union Number 137** International Union of Operating Engineers,Supplemental Benefit Fund Local 409* Interstate Connecting Components* Iron Workers Local Union #28 Health and Welfare Fund** Isaacson Isaacson Seridan & Fountain,LLP Jack in the Box Jacobson Family Investments* Jakov P. Dulcich & Sons J-B Wholesale Pet Supplies* Jefferson Rehabilitation Center Jeffords Steel and Engineering JKL International* JLG Harvesting,Inc. Johnson Machine Works Joseph Gallo Farms Jump,Scutellaro,and Co.,LLP* Katy Industries,Inc. KC International dba Ekman Recycling* Kent County Kerwin Communications* King City Nursery,PRM Health Plan** Kingstown Capital Management* KnoxCounty Association for Retarded Citizens Koellman Gear Corporation* Kramer Electronics* Laborers’ District Council of Virginia Health and Welfare Trust Fund Laborers’ International Union of North America Local Union No. 616 Health and Welfare Plan Laborers National Health and Welfare Fund Lakeview Subacute Care Center* Lamanuzzi & Pantaleo** Landscape,Irrigation and Lawn Sprinkler Industry Health and Welfare Plan and Trust Langan Engineering and Financial Services,Inc.* Laundry and Dry Cleaning Workers Local No. 52 LBDD* League of Minnesota Cities* Learning Disabilities Association of Western New York Leisure Properties LLC d/b/a/ Crownline Boats* Liberty House Nursing Home* Life Benefit Plan Lifetime Assistance,Inc* Lincoln Hall* Living Resources** Local 1102 Amalgamated Welfare Fund Local 1102 Health & Benefit Fund Local 1102 Welfare Fund—Lerner Employees Local 1245 Health Fund Local 17 Hospitality Benefit Fund Local 237 Teamsters Suffolk Regional Off-Track Betting Corp. Health and Welfare Trust Fund Local 25 SEIU Local 272 Welfare Fund** Local 295 Welfare Fund Local 298 Health Benefit Fund Plan Local 338 Affiliated Benefit Funds Local 381 Group Insurance Fund Local 802 Musicians Health Fund Local 803 Health and Welfare Fund Local 805 Welfare Fund Local 888 UFCW Lone Star Park at Grand Prairie Louisiana Electrical Health Fund Louisiana Laborers Health and Welfare Fund Luther Automotive Group HRA* M.A. Mortenson Macayo Restaurants Madelia Community Hospital** Maharishi University of Management Mamiya America Corporation* Mandt Reiss & Associates PLLC Man-U Service Contract Health and Welfare Fund Maple Knoll Communities Marble Industry Trust Fund Margaret P. Muscarelle Child Dev. Center* Maritime Association Mars Super Markets,Inc. Marshall Durbin Food Corporation MAUSER Corp. Maverick County Maverick,Inc. Employee Health Care Benefits Plan MaxHomes,Loc** McGregor Schools ISD #4* MCS Life Insurance Company † Medical Development Corporation** Meijer Meijer Health Benefits Plan/Primary Care Option Memphis Construction Benefit Fund Merrill Farms LLC Mesa Air Group** Mesa Packing** Metrics Inc. Metropolitan D.C. Paving Industry Employees Health and Welfare Fund Micelli Motors,Inc.* Michigan Conference of Teamsters Welfare Fund** Mid-South Carpenters Regional Council Health and Welfare Fund Midwest Asphalt Corporation * Midwest Teamsters Minnesota and North Dakota Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers** Minnesota Cement Masons Health and Welfare Fund Minnesota State Retirement System Post-Employment Health Care Savings Plan - City of Roseville* Minnesota Teamsters Construction Division Mission Linen Supply Mission Ranches,PRM Health Plan** MJ Soffe MO-Kan Teamsters and Welfare Fund Monroe County* Moore’s Retread & Tire of the Ark-La-Tex,Inc. Mounds View Public Schools* Mountain Lake Services Mountaire Corporation † MPS Group,Inc. MVP Name Brand,Inc. Naples Central School District Naples Central School District Support Staff Nassau County Chapter,NYSARC,Inc* NCHC,Inc.* NECA-IBEW Local 480 Health and Welfare Plan New England Health Care Employees Welfare Fund † New York State Assn. for Retarded Children Erie Co. Chapter dba/Heritage Centers* Newark Central School District Nexion Health NFI Industries Niagara-Wheatfield CSD Self Funded NJ Society of CPAs* NOITU Insurance Trust Fund** Noodles & Company North Greece Fire District* North State Bank North States Industries Inc* Northern Illinois and Iowa Laborers Health and Welfare Fund Northern Minnesota-Wisconsin Area Retail Food Health & Welfare Fund Nueces County Appraisal District O.K. Industries Ocean Properties Ltd Ogontz Avenue Revitalization Corporation* Oklahoma Goodwill Industries Operating Engineers Local 835 Health and Welfare Fund Opportunity Resources,Inc. Health and Welfare Plan Orange County AHRC* ** O’Reilly Auto Parts Orscheln Industries Pacific Risk Management** Panama Central School District Parkview Care and Rehab* Paschall Truck Lines,Inc. Pathways Inc. Pavers and Road Builders District Council Welfare Fund Payroll Solutions PCB Machining Solutions* PCB Piezotronics* Pearson Candy Company People 1st Health Strategies,Inc. PepsiCo,Inc Periodical Services Pharmaca Integrative Pharmacy Philadelphia Macaroni Company* PhoenixChildren’s Academy PhoenixPartners Group,LP* Pinnacle PRM** Pipe Fitters’ Welfare Fund,Local 597* Plumbers & Pipefitters Local 123 Welfare Fund Plumbers & Pipefitters Local Union 823 Health & Welfare Fund Plumbers & Steamfitters Local No. 6 Health and Welfare Fund Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 430 Health and Welfare Fund** Plumbers and Pipefitters Local No. 630 Welfare Fund Plumbers and Pipefitters Welfare Fund of Local Union No. 719 Plumbers Local Union No. 690 of Philadelphia and Vicinity Health Plan PMPS-ILA Pocono Medical Center P-R Farms,Inc. Preferred Care,Inc. Prell Services Privilege Underwriters,Inc.* Progressive AE* Progressive Logistics Services** Protocol Marketing Group PS-ILA Pure Air Filter Sales & Service** QK/DRD (Denny’s) Quadrant Capital Advisors,Inc.* Quality Integrated Services,Inc. Rancho Maria PRM** RE Rabalais Constructors,LTD Regency Management Group,LLC* Regent Care Center Regis Corporation Reiter Affiliated Companies** Reliance Standard Retail,Wholesale & Dept. Store Union Local 1034 Welfare Fund Retiree Plan of the Central States,Southeast and Southwest Areas Health and Welfare Fund Rhoads Industries* Rice Food Markets,Inc. Rice Food Markets,Inc. Richmond Community Services* Ricker Oil Company Rio Farms PRM** Robert Heath Trucking Inc Ron Clark Construction Health reimbursement Arrangement* Roofers Local #96 Health & Welfare Fund Roofers Local 8 Insurance & Trust Fund Rowe and Company,Inc.* RREMC LLC Ruby Tuesday Rush-Henrietta Central School District HRA* San Bernardino IHSS Public Authority Sanderson Plumbing Products,Inc. Sasnak SCC Healthcare Group,LLP Schenectady ARC* Schoharie County ARC* Seco Packing Securitas Security Services USA,Inc. Security Benefit Fund of the Uniformed Firefighters Association of New York City Security Forces Inc. SEIU Health & Welfare Fund SEIU Health and Welfare fund,2000 SEIU Local 300,Civil Service Forum Employees Welfare Fund Seneca Cayuga ARC* Sensient Technologies Corp. Service Employees 32BJ North Health Benefit Fund* Service Employees Benefit Fund Service Employees International Union Local 1 Cleveland Welfare Fund SFN Group Sheet Metal Workers Funds of Local Union 38** Sheet Metal Workers Local No. 177 Health and Welfare,Pension and Vacation Funds Sheet Metal Workers’ National Health Fund Sherman Central School District Shirkey Nursing Sieben Polk Law Firm Sierra Video Systems* Silver Creek Central School District* Sitel,Inc. Skilled Health Care SMEG* SMWIA 28** Social Service Employees Union Local 371 Sodus Central School District South Central Laborers’ Health & Welfare Fund Southeast OBGYN,PC* ** Southeastern Pipetrades Health & Welfare Fund Southern CA Pipe Trades Trust Fund Southern Graphic Communication Health Fund Southern Operators Health Fund** Southwestern Teamsters Security Fund Spindle,Cooling,& Warehouse Sports Arena Employees’ Local 137 Welfare Fund Springbrook Standalone HRA* St. Lawrence NYSARC* Star Tek Staywell Saipan Basic Plan Stonebridge Hospitality Associates** Strategic Industries* Strauss Discount Auto Sun Belt Sun Healthcare Group,Inc. Sun Pacific Farming Coop Sunburst Hospitality Sunview Vineyards of California,Inc. Sunwest Fruit Company,Inc SunWorld International,LLC Superior Officers Council Health and Welfare Fund Susser Holding Corp Swift Spinning Tandem Eastern Inc. / Consolidated Transport Systems,Inc. Taylor Farms Teamsters Local 210 Affiliated Health and Insurance Fund Teamsters Local 445 Welfare Plan Teamsters Local 522 Welfare Fund Roofers Division Teamsters Local Union 72 Welfare Fund** Teamsters Local Union 966 Health Fund Teamsters Union Local # 35 Teamsters Welfare Fund of Northern New Jersey Local 1723 Techno Source USA* Telamon Corporation Health Reimbursement Arrangement* Telco Construction Telescope Casual Furniture Telesis Management Corporation Teletech Holdings,Inc. Texas Carpenters and Millwrights Health and Welfare Fund The Allied Industries Health Fund The Alternative Living Group,Inc.* The ARC of Delaware County* The Arc of Otsego (Otsego County Chapter NYSARC,Inc.)* The Arc of Rensselaer County* The Brinkman Corporation The Buccaneer The City of Cloquet* The Day Care Council/Council of Supervisors and Administrators Welfare Fund The Dixie Group,Inc. The Durango Herald The Henry Luce Foundation* The LDF Companies The Louis Berger Group,Inc. The Maritime Aquarium of Norwalk,Inc.* The Mentor Network The Pew Charitable Trusts* The Pictsweet Co. The Public Authority of San Luis Obispo County The Rehabilitation Center* The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation* The Talbots,Inc The University Financing Foundation,Inc. The Village of Newark Non-Union Employee Plan* The Wada Farms,Inc. The Wilks Group,Inc. dba Ashley Furniture Homestore The Wright Travel Agency** Theatrical Stage Employees Local One Theatrical Teamsters Local 817 IBT Welfare Fund Topco* Totino Grace High School* Town of Albion Town of Chenango Town of Frisco Medical Plan Town of Grand Island* ** Town of Lockport Transcorr Transport Workers Trans-System,Inc. Tri-Pak Triple-S Salud,Inc. Truck Drivers and Helpers Local 355 Health and Welfare Fund True Leaf Farms** Tudor Ranch Tuff Shed,Inc. Twin City Die Casting* U.A. Local 13 & Employers Group Insurance Plan* UFCW & Participating Food Industry Employers Tri-State Health & Welfare Fund UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust UFCW Local 1262 UFCW Local 1262 and Employers Health & Welfare Fund UFCW Local 1500 Welfare Fund UFCW Local 227 UFCW Local 371 Amalgamated Welfare Fund** UFCW Local One Health Care Fund UFCW Maximus Local 455 Ulster Greene ARC* Uncle Julio’s UniFirst UNITE HERE Local 74 Welfare and Dental Trust United Agricultural Benefit Trust †† United Cerebral Palsy of Ulster County,Inc* United Crafts Benefits Fund** United Employees Health Plans United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund United Food & Commercial Workers Unions and Employers Local No. 348 Health & Welfare Fund** United Food & Commercial Workers Unions and Employers Midwest Health Benefits Fund United Food and Commercial Workers and Employers Arizona United Food and Commercial Workers and Participating Employers Interstate Health and Welfare Fund United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1445 New Hampshire United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1459 and Contributing Employers Health and Welfare Fund** United Food and Commercial Workers Local 464a** United Food and Commercial Workers Local 911** United Food and Commercial Workers Retail Employees and Employers Health and Welfare Plan United Food and Commercial Workers Union (Mount Laurel,NJ) United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1000 United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1000 and Kroger Dallas Health and Welfare Plan United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1459 United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1995 United Group United Service Employees Union,Local 377,RWDSU,UFCW United Wire,Metal & Machine Health & Welfare Fund** Universal Forest Products Universal Orlando Urstadt Biddle Properties* US Imaging Valley Services,Inc. Varsity Contractors,Inc. Vernon Sheltered Workshop,Inc. Health and Welfare Plan #501 Vestal Manufacturing Enterprises,Inc. Vincent B Zaninovich & Sons,Inc. Vino Farms W.H. Reaves & Co.,Inc.* Waffle House WageWorks,Inc Walder,Hayden & Brogan,PA* Walters-Morgan Construction,Inc. Wayne ARC Standalone HRA Section 105 Plan* WD Young& Sons,Inc. Weckworth Manufacturing** Wellspring Advisors* West Bergen Mental Healthcare* Westchester ARC* Westchester JCS* Western Area Volunteer Emergency Services * Western Beef* Western Express,Inc. Western Growers Assurance Trust Western Harvesting PRM Health Plan**

pkr, that's one hellva list. 

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

CarlSagan wrote:The only ones who keep arguing against having all Americans see a doctor on a regular basis to help live healthier lives, and therefore reducing future health care costs are the ones who just cannot stand it was the black guy who finally did it.  These ones also keep arguing to keep giving away free healthcare even though it is a full one/fifth of our entire economy.
See, health care reform is a Republican/conservative idea from the '90s. So it makes all the bigots crazy that the black guy enacted a conservative idea.
This makes the bigots so crazy, they forget they are conservative.

"Not all conservatives are stupid; but almost all stupid people are conservative."

I see... In your mind health care should be available to everyone because it's their right, but it shouldn't be available to everyone equally and fairly.

Does that about sum up what you have to say?

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Yhq1EwO5E

 

Perhaps the damage you have suffered is in reading comprehension, Mr. Eagle.  The question high-lighted above tells me that you have not read the first one of my posts. Or, that you have read them, but cannot comprehend.
So sorry.
I have been arguing for all Americans to see a doctor on a regular basis in order to live healthier lives and therefore reducing future healthcare costs. I also have been arguing against giving away free healthcare. You, Mr. Eagle, and you ilk have been arguing exactly the opposite.  
So, what you typed above absolutely does not sum up my position.  My position has been clear since I started posting on this cute, little forum.
Reading is fundamental, Mr. Eagle.  Perhaps if you could read a post objectively, then you would not ask questions like the above one making yourself look totally uninformed, and unable to comprehend simple ideas.
So sad.

"Reading is fundamental."  Bert and Ernie

My reading comprehension is just fine. I suggest that it's your ability to speak and write comprehensively that is ultimately lacking and I suspect that being from your having had to many bad schrooms.

All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings.

But I see now from your dictatorial musings that you feel all Americans should be required to see a doctor like it's a mandatory thing (NOTE: Blue highlighted sentence in your post). Might I suggest a excellent psychiatrist or two for yourself since you're apparently having some sort of superiority complex that leads you to be obsessive compulsive about the lives of others.

You are correct that reading is fundamental but comprehending what you are reading is an absolute necessity that you are apparently incapable of even after all this time on the forum.

Furthermore perhaps you should think, which I am doubtful you are capable of, prior to writing your nonsense and people wouldn't be writing you statements... and questions over your psychotic ramblings that you become belligerent about.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hL6fkJ1_k

Chrissy wrote:Id rather sell my body parts then help the country die.

?????

Just out of curiosity..... Are there any parts currently for sale?

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v43LNBDNBIk

 

"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

I would opine that he is serious but this is still the good ole USA and he can speak his piece. Remember, we still have religions that practice the handling of venomous snakes to test their faith . . . . . it's America!

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

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dreams, excuse me but I couldn't resist this retort, may I offer one of my own please?

You must live under a rock if you actually believe that absent medical insurance you can actually have access to a Family Practitioner and/or certainly not to a specialist. That's why these people end up in emergencies rooms for the freaking flu because they do not have access, got it?

knothead wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

I would opine that he is serious but this is still the good ole USA and he can speak his piece.  Remember, we still have religions that practice the handling of venomous snakes to test their faith . . . . . it's America!

I've made up my mind about that response in the other thread. It does apply to people like you who think they should be able to sit in front of their game machine all day and be paid for it.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjspyo-_aI

 

knothead wrote:Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

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dreams, excuse me but I couldn't resist this retort, may I offer one of my own please?

You must live under a rock if you actually believe that absent medical insurance you can actually have access to a Family Practitioner and/or certainly not to a specialist.  That's why these people end up in emergencies rooms for the freaking flu because they do not have access, got it?

Which ones would those be?

People like you who sit in front of your Xbox all day and expect to be paid for it?

Walk in with the cash/assets and the doctor will see you with or without health insurance and you know it.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjspyo-_aI

 

[quote="Damaged Eagle"]

knothead wrote:Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

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dreams, excuse me but I couldn't resist this retort, may I offer one of my own please?

You must live under a rock if you actually believe that absent medical insurance you can actually have access to a Family Practitioner and/or certainly not to a specialist.  That's why these people end up in emergencies rooms for the freaking flu because they do not have access, got it?

Which ones would those be?

People like you who sit in front of your Xbox all day and expect to be paid for it?

Walk in with the cash/assets and the doctor will see you with or without health insurance and you know it.

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You have to be the most ignorant poster here bud, none of what you said is relevant to the topic . . . . I'm watching my game good day!

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

knothead wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

knothead wrote:Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

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dreams, excuse me but I couldn't resist this retort, may I offer one of my own please?

You must live under a rock if you actually believe that absent medical insurance you can actually have access to a Family Practitioner and/or certainly not to a specialist.  That's why these people end up in emergencies rooms for the freaking flu because they do not have access, got it?

Which ones would those be?

People like you who sit in front of your Xbox all day and expect to be paid for it?

Walk in with the cash/assets and the doctor will see you with or without health insurance and you know it.

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You have to be the most ignorant poster here bud, none of what you said is relevant to the topic . . . . I'm watching my game good day!

No! I'm pretty sure that one of the most ignorant posters here is you... Though there are a few around here that could give you a good run for your money on that position.

*****CHUCKLE*****

Show me where what I've stated about healthcare doesn't pertain to the topic at hand.

That's right go numb your brain cells some more on that gaming machine you'll be number one yet.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

My statement is totally accurate it's yours that is inaccurate.

Are you now saying that there are not free clinics that people who do not have the cash/assets can not go to?

If that's what you're saying then I don't believe you.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzUCO7rG0M

He makes me smile is all I can say . . . . .

Well who would have guessed a thread that went from hospitals in the game, to Chrissy selling her body parts, to a list of exemptions longer than my arm? But it is thought provoking, the hospitals want as many signed up on insurance as possible so they can finally get insurance money from the poor people. The list pkr may or may not be correct today, so many reversals, employer reporting delayed and now although each employer has to give their employee's a notice about by Oct 1 stating their options and it was suppose to be $100 a day fine for every employee that didn't receive the notice, looks like you still have to give notice but no one to police it or much less collect the fine. Let's just see if the whole employer thing isn't scrapped in the next year. But then if the individual mandate is to succeed the govt will have to up what they are collecting in taxes from insurance company's. Yep, it will be nice to do a lot business for the next 6 months, but I cannot seeing this sustaining itself in present form. Just no money.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:"All Americans have been free to see a doctor, or not, so they can lead healthier lives since the founding of this country. So you see I have not been arguing whatever it is you are attempting to convey from your convoluted imaginings."

Is this a joke statement? Seriously?  

Are you trying say that all Americans haven't been free to go in and see a doctor if they wanted to?

Please tell me why that would happen without a restraining order from the doctor.

******SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

I surmised you would say that but your statement would be wholly inaccurate since you must have the means to pay the Dr. We are not talking about freedoms here but the ability to acquire a service which poor people do not have. Try getting an appt. w/o insurance. People who have the means to pay certainly have the means to have insurance and Dr.s know that so they also know they're cash means would be limited.

My statement is totally accurate it's yours that is inaccurate.

Are you now saying that there are not free clinics that people who do not have the cash/assets can not go to?

If that's what you're saying then I don't believe you.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzUCO7rG0M

Try to go to a clinic to get your broken arm set. LOL!