I was confused as to who is living at the house. But apparently George is living at the house and his ex has moved out. Strange sounding to me, since it is HER parents' house.
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On the surface this looks like nothing more than lies by Shellie. If so could she be charged with filing a false police report?Nekochan wrote:More trickles out about yesterday's police call.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911
Lake Mary Police are now calling into question several statements Shellie Zimmerman made to 911
LAKE MARY, Fla - Lake Mary Police are now questioning the validity of several statements Shellie Zimmerman made when she told 911 dispatchers her estranged husband, George Zimmerman, threatened her and her father at gunpoint Monday afternoon.
"We did not find a gun, did not locate a weapon," said Zach Hudson, public information officer with the Lake Mary Police Department. "Nobody ever saw a gun. A gun is not part of this story."
Still, a gun was at the crux of the account Shellie Zimmerman provided to 911 dispatchers when calling for help.
"He continually has his hand on his gun and he keeps saying, 'Step closer.' He is just threatening all of us," Shellie can be heard telling dispatchers.
Hudson told ABC Action News Shellie provided a written statement Monday night saying she never saw a gun and only assumed her estranged husband was carrying a weapon because he touched his stomach.
Shellie called police to her father's home on Sprucewood Road around 2 p.m. She claimed George punched her father in the face and threatened both of them with a gun.
"He accosted my father and then took my IPad and then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife. I don't know what he is capable of. I am really really scared," Shellie told dispatchers.
According to authorities, Shellie's father did not have any visible injuries.
In the 911 call, Shellie asked the dispatcher to send paramedics because her father's nose looked like it was broken.
There are also other inconsistencies police pointed to on the 911.
Shellie told dispatchers that officers arrived and had their guns drawn. She said George was sitting in his car. Fearing George would start shooting, she told the dispatcher her and her father were going inside.
According to police, George was not in his car when they arrived but was standing in the yard. They say he was also very cooperative and allowed police to search his person.
After being questioned by police, Shellie left the home with her attorney.
Police explained that George has been living in his father-in-law's home. It was just last week that Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce.
Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said Monday's incident stemmed from the couple dividing up property.
"Silly stuff like pots and pans and dishes gets so emotionalized that it overflows and that is what really happened here," said O'Mara.
The home was previously used as a meeting place to divvy up possessions. However, O'Mara said Shellie turned up at the home Monday afternoon unannounced.
"This is all miscommunication," O'Mara said.
O'Mara explained that this is just more fallout from Zimmerman's acquittal in the murder of Trayvon Martin, 17.
That occurred nearly two months ago, and since that time, Zimmerman has been in the media spotlight for various reasons including speeding and helping people during a traffic crash.
In this case, both Zimmerman and his father-in-law have declined to file charges.
However, multiple media outlets are incorrectly reporting that Zimmerman and his wife has also declined to press charges. According to police, because this is a domestic violence case, it is up to the state attorney's office to decide whether charges are warranted. They must first find out who was the primary aggressor, if there was one at all.
And while no charges have been filed, police say that could change at any minute.
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911#ixzz2eV1s0zfk
Because in the past of murders of spouses that have occurred after the police were called but made no arrests, if the police are called to a domestic altercation and they see evidence of some kind of injury, they pretty much MUST make an arrest, regardless if the parties involved do not want an arrest to be made. This is addressed in the last part of the article I just posted. I believe that if the police yesterday found evidence of injuries on either George or his wife, that would have prompted some further action on their part. Of course, it is the wife's father who she claimed that George had attacked but I do not believe that assaulting your father in law amounts to domestic abuse.Ghost Rider wrote:I have not read everything out there about this case, but I believe that the victim of domestic abuse must exhibit some signs of being assaulted. That being said, if he and his daughter refused to press charges, then there is not much the cops can do.Nekochan wrote:The police in the article I posted said they did not find a gun. So there are conflicting reports.
In Florida, if there was evidence of domestic abuse, the police would have to have arrested George even if his wife didn't want to file charges.
Wouldn't that only be the case if she said she wanted to file charges? I am not sure that just calling the police would be a false "report".Ghost Rider wrote:On the surface this looks like nothing more than lies by Shellie. If so could she be charged with filing a false police report?Nekochan wrote:More trickles out about yesterday's police call.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911
Lake Mary Police are now calling into question several statements Shellie Zimmerman made to 911
LAKE MARY, Fla - Lake Mary Police are now questioning the validity of several statements Shellie Zimmerman made when she told 911 dispatchers her estranged husband, George Zimmerman, threatened her and her father at gunpoint Monday afternoon.
"We did not find a gun, did not locate a weapon," said Zach Hudson, public information officer with the Lake Mary Police Department. "Nobody ever saw a gun. A gun is not part of this story."
Still, a gun was at the crux of the account Shellie Zimmerman provided to 911 dispatchers when calling for help.
"He continually has his hand on his gun and he keeps saying, 'Step closer.' He is just threatening all of us," Shellie can be heard telling dispatchers.
Hudson told ABC Action News Shellie provided a written statement Monday night saying she never saw a gun and only assumed her estranged husband was carrying a weapon because he touched his stomach.
Shellie called police to her father's home on Sprucewood Road around 2 p.m. She claimed George punched her father in the face and threatened both of them with a gun.
"He accosted my father and then took my IPad and then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife. I don't know what he is capable of. I am really really scared," Shellie told dispatchers.
According to authorities, Shellie's father did not have any visible injuries.
In the 911 call, Shellie asked the dispatcher to send paramedics because her father's nose looked like it was broken.
There are also other inconsistencies police pointed to on the 911.
Shellie told dispatchers that officers arrived and had their guns drawn. She said George was sitting in his car. Fearing George would start shooting, she told the dispatcher her and her father were going inside.
According to police, George was not in his car when they arrived but was standing in the yard. They say he was also very cooperative and allowed police to search his person.
After being questioned by police, Shellie left the home with her attorney.
Police explained that George has been living in his father-in-law's home. It was just last week that Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce.
Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said Monday's incident stemmed from the couple dividing up property.
"Silly stuff like pots and pans and dishes gets so emotionalized that it overflows and that is what really happened here," said O'Mara.
The home was previously used as a meeting place to divvy up possessions. However, O'Mara said Shellie turned up at the home Monday afternoon unannounced.
"This is all miscommunication," O'Mara said.
O'Mara explained that this is just more fallout from Zimmerman's acquittal in the murder of Trayvon Martin, 17.
That occurred nearly two months ago, and since that time, Zimmerman has been in the media spotlight for various reasons including speeding and helping people during a traffic crash.
In this case, both Zimmerman and his father-in-law have declined to file charges.
However, multiple media outlets are incorrectly reporting that Zimmerman and his wife has also declined to press charges. According to police, because this is a domestic violence case, it is up to the state attorney's office to decide whether charges are warranted. They must first find out who was the primary aggressor, if there was one at all.
And while no charges have been filed, police say that could change at any minute.
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911#ixzz2eV1s0zfk
According to the legal definition of domestic abuse it is any abusive, violent, coercive, forceful, or threatening act or word inflicted by one member of a family or household on another can constitute domestic violence.Nekochan wrote: I do not believe that assaulting your father in law amounts to domestic abuse.
Well, a son isn't the same as a son in law....but since George was living there, you might be right. I don't know what Florida law says about in-laws or just roommates with no romantic interests.Ghost Rider wrote:According to the legal definition of domestic abuse it is any abusive, violent, coercive, forceful, or threatening act or word inflicted by one member of a family or household on another can constitute domestic violence.Nekochan wrote: I do not believe that assaulting your father in law amounts to domestic abuse.
Since Georgie lived with Shellie's parents, then it would be domestic abuse if he abused Shellie's father. I remember a few years ago when a son was arrested for domestic abuse when he abused his dad whom he was living with.
Yes, but there are very special laws about "domestic violence" and about when police are pretty much required to make an arrest. It's not treated the same as two friends or acquaintances getting in a scuffle or fight.knothead wrote:Of course, it is the wife's father who she claimed that George had attacked but I do not believe that assaulting your father in law amounts to domestic abuse.
Domestic abuse? No . . . . felony assault . . . I think yes.
A person can be charged with domestic abuse and felony assault on the vey same docket.knothead wrote:Of course, it is the wife's father who she claimed that George had attacked but I do not believe that assaulting your father in law amounts to domestic abuse.
Domestic abuse? No . . . . felony assault . . . I think yes.
I gave a deposition in a similar case years ago. The husband was riding around with his new girlfriend and had been drinking...I know because he stopped at my house and asked me and my husband to hide his alcohol because he knew the police were coming. The wife was home with their 2 teenage children...she went ballistic (after what confrontation I don't know) and she rammed his car with hers. Frankly, I don't blame her.Joanimaroni wrote:Floridatexan wrote:No chance he's just a loose cannon? On the 9/11 call, she said he hit her father in the nose and it might be broken. I think Zimmerman has some serious mental issues, possibly exacerbated by the drugs he's taking.2seaoat wrote:Since they are a childless couple, life insurance is normally not granted.
Life insurance is usually a children thing, but it also can be a maintenance thing depending on the length of the marriage and relative incomes of the parties. I think an insurance company who tried to vary the rates on a term life insurance policy under some alleged threat of death would get a protest through the insurance commission. As the wife she could get a very inexpensive two million dollar term life insurance policy on her husband, and then ask for temporary maintenance for a period of five years to cover misc. expenses including but not limited to the insurance payment.
I have to agree with some posters. The lady is in this for a buck. Book deal.
This reminds me of a time when I was divorcing my ex...my sister was helping me pack up some things in my house...she was carrying a box, and he shoved her.
In this situation....you have to consider Shellie's state of mind. George had his girlfriend with him.
If George Zimmerman was living at his in-laws house with his girlfriend (or even with the girlfriend being a welcome guest in the home) while his estranged wife was living elsewhere....this would be a very strange arrangement. I am not so sure Zimmerman's girlfriend was with him yesterday. I don't know if Joani read that the gf was there yesterday or I missed it in one of the news stories or what...Floridatexan wrote:I gave a deposition in a similar case years ago. The husband was riding around with his new girlfriend and had been drinking...I know because he stopped at my house and asked me and my husband to hide his alcohol because he knew the police were coming. The wife was home with their 2 teenage children...she went ballistic (after what confrontation I don't know) and she rammed his car with hers. Frankly, I don't blame her.Joanimaroni wrote:In this situation....you have to consider Shellie's state of mind. George had his girlfriend with him.Floridatexan wrote:No chance he's just a loose cannon? On the 9/11 call, she said he hit her father in the nose and it might be broken. I think Zimmerman has some serious mental issues, possibly exacerbated by the drugs he's taking.2seaoat wrote:Since they are a childless couple, life insurance is normally not granted.
Life insurance is usually a children thing, but it also can be a maintenance thing depending on the length of the marriage and relative incomes of the parties. I think an insurance company who tried to vary the rates on a term life insurance policy under some alleged threat of death would get a protest through the insurance commission. As the wife she could get a very inexpensive two million dollar term life insurance policy on her husband, and then ask for temporary maintenance for a period of five years to cover misc. expenses including but not limited to the insurance payment.
I have to agree with some posters. The lady is in this for a buck. Book deal.
This reminds me of a time when I was divorcing my ex...my sister was helping me pack up some things in my house...she was carrying a box, and he shoved her.
Been there, done that with the "non-related roommates" problem. If the perp who inflicted the violence has paid his rent and receives his mail at the house in question, it used to be possible to get what is called a "repeat violence" restraining order as opposed to a DV order. That's what I finally had to do, anyhow.Nekochan wrote:"As if a family"....I don't think that would include just ordinary non-related roommates. But I can see how the definition of "as if a family" could get murky.
Mission accomplished you sorry mother fuckin' asshole scumbag! LOLknothead wrote:No, it was me . . . . that freak gets my goat and I owe you all an apology (but it did feel good). LOLDreamsglore wrote:Somebody musta stolen Knots avatar.knothead wrote:You seriously need to get back on your meds cuz you say shit here that makes no sense whatsoever but just for the record you are one serious piece of shit the likes of which we forum members are exposed to so in closing FUCK YOU, YOU IGNORANT UNEDUCATED SCARDY CAT MOTHER FUCKER!!!VectorMan wrote:Liberal boneheads are just liberal boneheads. Nothing will ever change that. You just have to fight them at every turn. That's one of the reasons the GOP is blocking Obama on his every move.
"Fundamentally" change America? Fuck you, Obama, and go straight to hell you sorry SOB!
There, I said it! AGAIN! LOL
I believe Zimmerman's ex-wife (or soon to be ex-wife) is doing this for money. The liberal media will eat it up. I hope George is involved and makes a mint on it! LOL
Then you LibTard's heads will explode! LOL Fun, fun!
Wow that felt sweeeet . . . .
Too bad you vile toxic bitch!Floridatexan wrote:You lowlife vermin; you disgust me.VectorMan wrote:Liberal boneheads are just liberal boneheads. Nothing will ever change that. You just have to fight them at every turn. That's one of the reasons the GOP is blocking Obama on his every move.
"Fundamentally" change America? Fuck you, Obama, and go straight to hell you sorry SOB!
There, I said it! AGAIN! LOL
I believe Zimmerman's ex-wife (or soon to be ex-wife) is doing this for money. The liberal media will eat it up. I hope George is involved and makes a mint on it! LOL
Then you LibTard's heads will explode! LOL Fun, fun!
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