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This Week in Responsible CCL Holders

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Sal

Sal

Holy crap!

Two Milwaukee men -- each with a state permit to carry a concealed weapon -- traded dozens of shots in a rolling shootout through two sides of town and down a freeway, the kind of scenario concealed-carry opponents feared would turn road rage incidents deadly.

No one was killed or injured in the June 26 incident, according to a criminal complaint that charges just one of the men, who says he feels like he's being punished for being a victim, with a crime.

"I can assure you, he was definitely the aggressor," said Eric Adamany, 27. "It absolutely blows my mind he's not been charged." Adamany estimated people in the other vehicle fired 50 to 100 rounds at his car.

Prosecutors won't talk about the case, and the second shooter couldn't be reached for comment Friday. But the gunfight is bound to spark more debate over concealed carry.

According to a criminal complaint:

Shortly after midnight, a man on the south side flagged down a police officer near South Sixth Street and Oklahoma Avenue in Milwaukee to say he had just seen gunshots coming from a black car at the stoplight.

Sheriff's deputies, alerted to the possibility of two vehicles possibly involved in a gunfight on Interstate 43, saturated the area near the North Avenue exit. One deputy was flagged down by Adamany near North Avenue and King Drive.

Adamany had put his black 9mm Beretta handgun on his blue 2002 Audi A4.

Meanwhile, another deputy was talking to Roy Scott a couple blocks away on North Fouth Street. Scott told the deputy he was carrying a .40-caliber Ruger handgun.

Both men admitted they were in a gunfight but said the other had fired the first shot. Both were arrested and interviewed by Milwaukee police detectives.

Adamany said he had just left the Taco Bell near South 14th and West Burnham streets and had pulled over to send a text message when a gold Dodge Magnum pulled up. A passenger said, "What are you looking at, white boy?" showed a chrome handgun and fired at Adamany's car, hit the driver's side mirror and then sped off.

Adamany told a detective he reached for his gun immediately but the safety was on. He said he called 911 and began following the Dodge as it headed for the freeway and said that someone in the Dodge fired a few more shots at him. He said the two cars were swerving around other traffic before the Dodge left the freeway briefly at McKinley Avenue, then re-entered, still heading north.

That's when Adamany began emptying the magazine of his gun, shooting out the window with his left hand while driving and using the phone with his right hand, he told police.

"My radiator was hit, and the car was starting to overheat, so I aimed low to shoot out the tires," Adamany said in an interview with the Journal Sentinel. He said his phone was connected to 911 the entire time and that a recording will back up his story.

According to the complaint, Scott told a different detective that he and a friend were driving near South 27th Street and West Morgan Avenue when a blue car passed him. The other driver, Scott said, "mean mugged" him and showed a black handgun.

Scott grabbed his gun and displayed it before speeding away. Soon the blue car was chasing him, Scott said, firing shots. So Scott fired back out his driver's window, pointing backward over his shoulder with his right hand, while steering with his left.

Scott said he finally had to exit I-43 at North Avenue because all of his tires had been shot out, and his car came to rest on King Drive. He said the other man was still shooting, so he and his passenger ran away until they saw the deputy on North Fourth St.

Adamany said when he first took off after the Dodge, he though he was doing the right thing. I "just kept thinking: What about the next person? What if they didn't have a gun?" he said. "I think they were looking for a random person to shoot, honestly."

Mayor Tom Barrett said his security staff brought the story to his attention as soon as it appeared Friday on JSOnline.

"This has always been one of my concerns (with the concealed-carry law) -- that things like road rage could turn out like the wild, wild West," he said. " Here we are."

http://www.twincities.com/wisconsin/ci_23652611/milwaukee-pair-men-concealed-carry-permits-engage-shootout

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yeah concealed carry is so damn stupid. Open carry should be the law. Then You wouldn't have this crap.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

You don't need a concealed carry permit to have a gun in your car.
So concealed-carry is a non-issue and a red herring in this case. Because this would have still happened if there was no concealed carry permit.

I agree that retards like these shouldn't have guns.

So what is the answer?  Hell if I know.  But I know it aint gun control because retards like these are gonna have guns no matter about gun control.
Gun control will likely just scare them into wanting more and bigger guns.
We've already had an experiment in Prohibition.  All that did was make matters worse until it was done away with.

Guest


Guest

Poor Sally, the desperation grows and grows. A CCP is not relevant here and both morons should have been charged. Of course quivering progressives like Sally will ignore facts once again. CCP holders have to follow the law and also restrictions attendant to their license for the state where held. These two jokers did not.

Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider

nochain wrote:Poor Sally, the desperation grows and grows. A CCP is not relevant here and both morons should have been charged. Of course quivering progressives like Sally will ignore facts once again. CCP holders have to follow the law and also restrictions attendant to their license for the state where held. These two jokers did not.

he also used the wrong word in the title of this thread. they may have been ccl holders, but i question the "responsible' part.

Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yeah concealed carry is so damn stupid. Open carry should be the law. Then You wouldn't have this crap.

according to what i have read open carry is legal in wisconsin.

Sal

Sal

Over The Hill wrote:
he also used the wrong word in the title of this thread. they may have been ccl holders, but i question the "responsible' part.

Sarcasm a new concept to ya?

Sal

Sal

nochain wrote:Poor Sally, the desperation grows and grows. A CCP is not relevant here and both morons should have been charged. Of course quivering progressives like Sally will ignore facts once again. CCP holders have to follow the law and also restrictions attendant to their license for the state where held. These two jokers did not.

Again with the quivering?

You're weird.

I just put the CCL holder info in the headline because it was part of the original headline, and to irk the nutties.

Mission accomplished.


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Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider

Sal wrote:
Over The Hill wrote:
he also used the wrong word in the title of this thread. they may have been ccl holders, but i question the "responsible' part.

Sarcasm a new concept to ya?

nope i have just seen and read some of your sarcasm masked as facts especially with the syg law.

boards of FL

boards of FL

Anyone else ever get irked by the way gun nuts and the CCL types use such PC, sterile lingo when talking about guns?

"So I discharged two rounds and neutralized the suspect. And then I holstered my firearm. Yeehaw!"

rather than...

"I shot the guy."

It's comparable to hearing people talk in generic corporate-speak in the hopes of somehow coming off smarter.


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Sal

Sal

Over The Hill wrote:

sarcasm masked as facts

Can you give me a specific example or explain what the hell you're talking about here?

I don't speak nutter fluently.

Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider

Sal wrote:
Over The Hill wrote:

sarcasm masked as facts

Can you give me a specific example or explain what the hell you're talking about here?

I don't speak nutter fluently.  

i could splain it to you but i can't make you understand it with your shallow mind. btw, you should learn to speak nutter, it ain't that complicated.

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