Color Photo of George Zimmerman From the Night He Killed Trayvon Martin

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Oh, so now it is follow not chasing....

Following, chasing, stalking, ... take your pick.

Doesn't matter what you call it, it resulted in a 17-year-old kid shot dead on the sidewalk.

and he did stop following him.

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

Floridatexan wrote:

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

This is the first discussion of this subject I've seen for months. My own statement was something similar: wait for the trial. I don't blame people for becoming jaded after the protracted and needlessly publicized trials of Simpson and Anthony. I knew people who rushed home to see the latest episode, but I'm not one of those people. I don't follow firetrucks or pine for public hangings either.

But here we are discussing the alleged murderer's injuries, which could have been self-inflicted...can anyone verify that they weren't?

PkrBum wrote:The only reason a person thinks zimmerman is guilty before a trial is because they suffer a latent prejudice against Mexicans.

Before you guilty racists deny it... you just aren't aware of it. We can see it... but you can't... just accept our word for it.

thank you for your participation.

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

Oh, so you're privy to all the evidence in this case, eh?

The Seminole County Sheriff’s Department’s Computer Aided Dispatch shows that Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person, then told them the subject was running from him. The exchange between the dispatcher and Zimmerman shows that he was advised not to continue to follow Martin. One witness interviewed said she saw one of the subjects chasing the other, but could not see who was who. A recording of a female identified as Martin’s longtime friend who was on the phone with him just before the shooting said he began to run when he realized Zimmerman was following him.

“The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue to dispel each party’s concern,” the report said. “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.” - Sanford PD Lead Investigator Chris Serino

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/18/new-trayvon-martin-evidence-10-things-you-should-know/#ixzz2EDMykET6

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

So what's your point. I am 63 years old, 6' 3" and weigh 197 lbs. I know several teenagers that could take me in hand to hand combat and I certainly am not ashamed to say so. However I will not stand idly by and allow him to beat the shit out of me if I am armed, which I always am when I leave home. The law is in place to allow one to protect themselves if they believe their life or the life of others is in danger.

If someone breaks into my house and starts beating on me or my wife with fists only, no weapon, he in all likelihood will be taken out in a body bag. If the authorities want to charge me as they did Zimmerman, then by all means do so, at least I will go to jail knowing that I am there for defending myself and my family.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

Oh, so you're privy to all the evidence in this case, eh?

The Seminole County Sheriff’s Department’s Computer Aided Dispatch shows that Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person, then told them the subject was running from him. The exchange between the dispatcher and Zimmerman shows that he was advised not to continue to follow Martin. One witness interviewed said she saw one of the subjects chasing the other, but could not see who was who. A recording of a female identified as Martin’s longtime friend who was on the phone with him just before the shooting said he began to run when he realized Zimmerman was following him.

“The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue to dispel each party’s concern,” the report said. “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.” - Sanford PD Lead Investigator Chris Serino

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/18/new-trayvon-martin-evidence-10-things-you-should-know/#ixzz2EDMykET6

Privy? I am privy to the information that has been made public.

Trayvon's girlfriend told Trayvon to run home but he didn't ....why didn't he?

Sal wrote:Damn.

The racist tough-guy wannabe initiated a conflict with a 17-year-old, that it's now obvious, he was not capable of ending without a gun.

What a pathetic fucking criminal pussy.

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:Damn.

The racist tough-guy wannabe initiated a conflict with a 17-year-old, that it's now obvious, he was not capable of ending without a gun.

What a pathetic fucking criminal pussy.

You must call the prosecution and tell them you'll testify since you know exactly what happened. The are fortunate to have such a good witness!

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
― Socrates

Floridatexan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

Oh, so you're privy to all the evidence in this case, eh?

The Seminole County Sheriff’s Department’s Computer Aided Dispatch shows that Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person, then told them the subject was running from him. The exchange between the dispatcher and Zimmerman shows that he was advised not to continue to follow Martin. One witness interviewed said she saw one of the subjects chasing the other, but could not see who was who. A recording of a female identified as Martin’s longtime friend who was on the phone with him just before the shooting said he began to run when he realized Zimmerman was following him.

“The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue to dispel each party’s concern,” the report said. “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.” - Sanford PD Lead Investigator Chris Serino

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/18/new-trayvon-martin-evidence-10-things-you-should-know/#ixzz2EDMykET6

Privy? I am privy to the information that has been made public.

Trayvon's girlfriend told Trayvon to run home but he didn't ....why didn't he?

My guess is that he was afraid to run for fear of being shot in the back. Do you have testimony or other evidence to corroborate Zimmerman's account?

Floridatexan wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

So what's your point. I am 63 years old, 6' 3" and weigh 197 lbs. I know several teenagers that could take me in hand to hand combat and I certainly am not ashamed to say so. However I will not stand idly by and allow him to beat the shit out of me if I am armed, which I always am when I leave home. The law is in place to allow one to protect themselves if they believe their life or the life of others is in danger.

If someone breaks into my house and starts beating on me or my wife with fists only, no weapon, he in all likelihood will be taken out in a body bag. If the authorities want to charge me as they did Zimmerman, then by all means do so, at least I will go to jail knowing that I am there for defending myself and my family.

I hear what you're saying, loud and clear, and I feel the same way. However, no one broke into Zimmerman's house or, to my knowledge, harmed any member of his family, nor should he have had a reasonable expectation that the teen posed a threat to his family or to anyone else for that matter.

Floridatexan wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

So what's your point. I am 63 years old, 6' 3" and weigh 197 lbs. I know several teenagers that could take me in hand to hand combat and I certainly am not ashamed to say so. However I will not stand idly by and allow him to beat the shit out of me if I am armed, which I always am when I leave home. The law is in place to allow one to protect themselves if they believe their life or the life of others is in danger.

If someone breaks into my house and starts beating on me or my wife with fists only, no weapon, he in all likelihood will be taken out in a body bag. If the authorities want to charge me as they did Zimmerman, then by all means do so, at least I will go to jail knowing that I am there for defending myself and my family.

I hear what you're saying, loud and clear, and I feel the same way. However, no one broke into Zimmerman's house or, to my knowledge, harmed any member of his family, nor should he have had a reasonable expectation that the teen posed a threat to his family or to anyone else for that matter.

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

So what's your point. I am 63 years old, 6' 3" and weigh 197 lbs. I know several teenagers that could take me in hand to hand combat and I certainly am not ashamed to say so. However I will not stand idly by and allow him to beat the shit out of me if I am armed, which I always am when I leave home. The law is in place to allow one to protect themselves if they believe their life or the life of others is in danger.

If someone breaks into my house and starts beating on me or my wife with fists only, no weapon, he in all likelihood will be taken out in a body bag. If the authorities want to charge me as they did Zimmerman, then by all means do so, at least I will go to jail knowing that I am there for defending myself and my family.

I hear what you're saying, loud and clear, and I feel the same way. However, no one broke into Zimmerman's house or, to my knowledge, harmed any member of his family, nor should he have had a reasonable expectation that the teen posed a threat to his family or to anyone else for that matter.

OK let me rephrase, suppose I am attacked by an unarmed offender in public. I am still armed and by beating the crap out of me I am in fear of my life, I could pull my gun and blow him away and the law would in most cases be on my side.

Even though Martin did not break into Zimmerman's house, the latest picture certainly shows evidence that he was attacked. He definitely did not get the broken bloody nose after he shot Martin.

PkrBum wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

So what's your point. I am 63 years old, 6' 3" and weigh 197 lbs. I know several teenagers that could take me in hand to hand combat and I certainly am not ashamed to say so. However I will not stand idly by and allow him to beat the shit out of me if I am armed, which I always am when I leave home. The law is in place to allow one to protect themselves if they believe their life or the life of others is in danger.

If someone breaks into my house and starts beating on me or my wife with fists only, no weapon, he in all likelihood will be taken out in a body bag. If the authorities want to charge me as they did Zimmerman, then by all means do so, at least I will go to jail knowing that I am there for defending myself and my family.

I hear what you're saying, loud and clear, and I feel the same way. However, no one broke into Zimmerman's house or, to my knowledge, harmed any member of his family, nor should he have had a reasonable expectation that the teen posed a threat to his family or to anyone else for that matter.

OK let me rephrase, suppose I am attacked by an unarmed offender in public. I am still armed and by beating the crap out of me I am in fear of my life, I could pull my gun and blow him away and the law would in most cases be on my side.

Even though Martin did not break into Zimmerman's house, the latest picture certainly shows evidence that he was attacked. He definitely did not get the broken bloody nose after he shot Martin.

It would depend on what color skin the person shot was... if that person looks like they could be related to the president of the united states... and what color your skin is... and what color the media says your skin is.

When do we get to talk about gun control?

A View wrote:We don't need to talk about gun control, George Z. had control of his gun!

PkrBum wrote:

A View wrote:We don't need to talk about gun control, George Z. had control of his gun!

Oh... any chance we can include evil rich people or corporations or the military?

Floridatexan wrote:

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

This is the first discussion of this subject I've seen for months. My own statement was something similar: wait for the trial. I don't blame people for becoming jaded after the protracted and needlessly publicized trials of Simpson and Anthony. I knew people who rushed home to see the latest episode, but I'm not one of those people. I don't follow firetrucks or pine for public hangings either.

But here we are discussing the alleged murderer's injuries, which could have been self-inflicted...can anyone verify that they weren't?

Floridatexan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

Oh, so you're privy to all the evidence in this case, eh?

The Seminole County Sheriff’s Department’s Computer Aided Dispatch shows that Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person, then told them the subject was running from him. The exchange between the dispatcher and Zimmerman shows that he was advised not to continue to follow Martin. One witness interviewed said she saw one of the subjects chasing the other, but could not see who was who. A recording of a female identified as Martin’s longtime friend who was on the phone with him just before the shooting said he began to run when he realized Zimmerman was following him.

“The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue to dispel each party’s concern,” the report said. “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.” - Sanford PD Lead Investigator Chris Serino

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/18/new-trayvon-martin-evidence-10-things-you-should-know/#ixzz2EDMykET6

Privy? I am privy to the information that has been made public.

Trayvon's girlfriend told Trayvon to run home but he didn't ....why didn't he?

My guess is that he was afraid to run for fear of being shot in the back. Do you have testimony or other evidence to corroborate Zimmerman's account?

Dreamsglore wrote:The first is Zimmerman called the police and was waiting for them.

wrong

Unless he was crazy and there is no evidence of that ,

Wrong

he would have no reason to attack Martin first.

wrong

Besdies Martin was much bigger than Zimmerman.

Wrong

The second is the physical evidence which supports Zimmerman's story.

Wrong

I think The SA is going to lose this case by overcharging.

maybe