Color Photo of George Zimmerman From the Night He Killed Trayvon Martin

Sal wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:The first is Zimmerman called the police and was waiting for them.

wrong

Unless he was crazy and there is no evidence of that ,

Wrong

he would have no reason to attack Martin first.

wrong

Besdies Martin was much bigger than Zimmerman.

Wrong

The second is the physical evidence which supports Zimmerman's story.

Wrong

I think The SA is going to lose this case by overcharging.

maybe

alecto wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

A View wrote:We don't need to talk about gun control, George Z. had control of his gun!

Oh... any chance we can include evil rich people or corporations or the military?

Lets not forget GWB. Libs just don't feel warm and fuzzy unless they are throwing GWB under the bus.

Sal wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:The first is Zimmerman called the police and was waiting for them.

wrong

Unless he was crazy and there is no evidence of that ,

Wrong

he would have no reason to attack Martin first.

wrong

Besdies Martin was much bigger than Zimmerman.

Wrong

The second is the physical evidence which supports Zimmerman's story.

Wrong

I think The SA is going to lose this case by overcharging.

maybe

Dreamsglore wrote:

Sal wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:The first is Zimmerman called the police and was waiting for them.

wrong

Unless he was crazy and there is no evidence of that ,

Wrong

he would have no reason to attack Martin first.

wrong

Besdies Martin was much bigger than Zimmerman.

Wrong

The second is the physical evidence which supports Zimmerman's story.

Wrong

I think The SA is going to lose this case by overcharging.

maybe

LOL! I don't think "wrong" is going to get it,Sal.You have no supporting arguments. Oh... and I'M RIGHT,SAL!

Dreamsglore wrote:

Sal wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:The first is Zimmerman called the police and was waiting for them.

wrong - he continued to stalk Martin even after the dispatcher told him to stand down

Unless he was crazy and there is no evidence of that ,

Wrong - look at this loon's history before and after this incident. The dude has issues.

he would have no reason to attack Martin first.

wrong - he has a history of racism and stalking young black guys

Besdies Martin was much bigger than Zimmerman.

Wrong - at most Martin weighed 160 - at least Zimmerman weighed 180 (probably closer to 190)

The second is the physical evidence which supports Zimmerman's story.

Wrong - there's physical evidence both supporting and contradicting Zimmerman's version of events (remember, he said Martin was struggling for his gun when he shot him - Martin had no gun poweder residue on his hands)

I think The SA is going to lose this case by overcharging.

maybe

LOL! I don't think "wrong" is going to get it,Sal.You have no supporting arguments. Oh... and I'M RIGHT,SAL!

Joanimaroni wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

Oh, so you're privy to all the evidence in this case, eh?

The Seminole County Sheriff’s Department’s Computer Aided Dispatch shows that Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person, then told them the subject was running from him. The exchange between the dispatcher and Zimmerman shows that he was advised not to continue to follow Martin. One witness interviewed said she saw one of the subjects chasing the other, but could not see who was who. A recording of a female identified as Martin’s longtime friend who was on the phone with him just before the shooting said he began to run when he realized Zimmerman was following him.

“The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue to dispel each party’s concern,” the report said. “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.” - Sanford PD Lead Investigator Chris Serino

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/18/new-trayvon-martin-evidence-10-things-you-should-know/#ixzz2EDMykET6

Privy? I am privy to the information that has been made public.

Trayvon's girlfriend told Trayvon to run home but he didn't ....why didn't he?

My guess is that he was afraid to run for fear of being shot in the back. Do you have testimony or other evidence to corroborate Zimmerman's account?

But that is just a guess....my guess is,
if Trayvon was afraid of getting shot he would not have doubled back.

Floridatexan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

I'll choose following ....chasing and stalking just don't fit the situation.


Because the evidence supports what Zimmerman has said from day one. Did you listen to the 911 tapes and read the police reports or are you jumping on the bandwagon and assuming murder because of Trayvon's race?

Oh, so you're privy to all the evidence in this case, eh?

The Seminole County Sheriff’s Department’s Computer Aided Dispatch shows that Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person, then told them the subject was running from him. The exchange between the dispatcher and Zimmerman shows that he was advised not to continue to follow Martin. One witness interviewed said she saw one of the subjects chasing the other, but could not see who was who. A recording of a female identified as Martin’s longtime friend who was on the phone with him just before the shooting said he began to run when he realized Zimmerman was following him.

“The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue to dispel each party’s concern,” the report said. “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.” - Sanford PD Lead Investigator Chris Serino

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/18/new-trayvon-martin-evidence-10-things-you-should-know/#ixzz2EDMykET6

Privy? I am privy to the information that has been made public.

Trayvon's girlfriend told Trayvon to run home but he didn't ....why didn't he?

My guess is that he was afraid to run for fear of being shot in the back. Do you have testimony or other evidence to corroborate Zimmerman's account?

But that is just a guess....my guess is,
if Trayvon was afraid of getting shot he would not have doubled back.

Do you know for a fact that he doubled back? Or is that Zimmerman's account?

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

This is the first discussion of this subject I've seen for months. My own statement was something similar: wait for the trial. I don't blame people for becoming jaded after the protracted and needlessly publicized trials of Simpson and Anthony. I knew people who rushed home to see the latest episode, but I'm not one of those people. I don't follow firetrucks or pine for public hangings either.

But here we are discussing the alleged murderer's injuries, which could have been self-inflicted...can anyone verify that they weren't?

Of all the statements ever said about this case, your's has been the stupidest so far-hands down!

Floridatexan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

This is the first discussion of this subject I've seen for months. My own statement was something similar: wait for the trial. I don't blame people for becoming jaded after the protracted and needlessly publicized trials of Simpson and Anthony. I knew people who rushed home to see the latest episode, but I'm not one of those people. I don't follow firetrucks or pine for public hangings either.

But here we are discussing the alleged murderer's injuries, which could have been self-inflicted...can anyone verify that they weren't?

Of all the statements ever said about this case, your's has been the stupidest so far-hands down!

All these years of defending you and you insult my intelligence? Noted. Try and put yourself in the shoes of the shooter, and then tell me you wouldn't do anything, and I mean anything, after the fact, to make it appear that you didn't shoot in cold blood.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

This is the first discussion of this subject I've seen for months. My own statement was something similar: wait for the trial. I don't blame people for becoming jaded after the protracted and needlessly publicized trials of Simpson and Anthony. I knew people who rushed home to see the latest episode, but I'm not one of those people. I don't follow firetrucks or pine for public hangings either.

But here we are discussing the alleged murderer's injuries, which could have been self-inflicted...can anyone verify that they weren't?

Of all the statements ever said about this case, your's has been the stupidest so far-hands down!

All these years of defending you and you insult my intelligence? Noted. Try and put yourself in the shoes of the shooter, and then tell me you wouldn't do anything, and I mean anything, after the fact, to make it appear that you didn't shoot in cold blood.

That was not a reply to you,FT. It was to Nochain.Sorry if it got in the wrong column.

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

So what's your point. I am 63 years old, 6' 3" and weigh 197 lbs. I know several teenagers that could take me in hand to hand combat and I certainly am not ashamed to say so. However I will not stand idly by and allow him to beat the shit out of me if I am armed, which I always am when I leave home. The law is in place to allow one to protect themselves if they believe their life or the life of others is in danger.



If someone breaks into my house and starts beating on me or my wife with fists only, no weapon, he in all likelihood will be taken out in a body bag. If the authorities want to charge me as they did Zimmerman, then by all means do so, at least I will go to jail knowing that I am there for defending myself and my family.

I hear what you're saying, loud and clear, and I feel the same way. However, no one broke into Zimmerman's house or, to my knowledge, harmed any member of his family, nor should he have had a reasonable expectation that the teen posed a threat to his family or to anyone else for that matter.

OK let me rephrase, suppose I am attacked by an unarmed offender in public. I am still armed and by beating the crap out of me I am in fear of my life, I could pull my gun and blow him away and the law would in most cases be on my side.

Even though Martin did not break into Zimmerman's house, the latest picture certainly shows evidence that he was attacked. He definitely did not get the broken bloody nose after he shot Martin.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

nochain wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Zimmerman was armed; the deceased was not. Zimmerman was an adult; the deceased was not. Zimmerman had a prior history of violent behavior that got him fired from a previous security job. Neighborhood watch participants are not supposed to carry guns. Zimmerman is the one who claims he was returning to his vehicle (why was he out of his vehicle?).

Let the trial determine the facts rather than little bits and pieces leaked to the media and debated endlessly. This is just one of MANY cases occurring in this country.

This is the first discussion of this subject I've seen for months. My own statement was something similar: wait for the trial. I don't blame people for becoming jaded after the protracted and needlessly publicized trials of Simpson and Anthony. I knew people who rushed home to see the latest episode, but I'm not one of those people. I don't follow firetrucks or pine for public hangings either.

But here we are discussing the alleged murderer's injuries, which could have been self-inflicted...can anyone verify that they weren't?

Of all the statements ever said about this case, your's has been the stupidest so far-hands down!

All these years of defending you and you insult my intelligence? Noted. Try and put yourself in the shoes of the shooter, and then tell me you wouldn't do anything, and I mean anything, after the fact, to make it appear that you didn't shoot in cold blood.

That was not a reply to you,FT. It was to Nochain.Sorry if it got in the wrong column.

Are you sure?

Joanimaroni wrote:I got lost in the exchanges....who wanted to know if the injuries were self-inflicted?

Dreamsglore wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:I got lost in the exchanges....who wanted to know if the injuries were self-inflicted?

I thought Nochain did.

W_T_M wrote:He's not very bright, and his lawsuit more than proves it. He will have his past chewed up like a doggie treat. His racist remarks and open disrespect in the workplace, etc, etc....

And for them to publicize his lawsuit doesn't play well for his trial. His defense team is trying to poison the jury pool, and stir up even more BS in the public venue.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/06/zimmerman-publicizes-defamation-lawsuit-against-nbc/



Ladies and gentleman....step right up and see the 3 ring circus. The clowns will be along soon, juggling reality and justice while drinking 3 martinis and cashing checks.

Anyone wanna bet on his payday for the rights to this self made tragedy he's enduring....?