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Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November

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Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November - Page 3 Gg

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Floridatexan wrote:Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November - Page 3 Gg





Like he said about Mrs. Cruz, how would you like to wake up looking at that ugly kisser? affraid

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https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/pennsylvania_trump_46_biden_46

Worrisome for the former vice president is his 67% black support, low for a Democrat, with the incumbent earning 27% of the black vote in Pennsylvania.

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Rasmussen! Laughing Laughing lol! Somebody still has faith in Rasmussen!

Should we tell him about the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny? Nah, let him dream. Very Happy

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zsomething wrote:Rasmussen!  Laughing Laughing lol! Somebody still has faith in Rasmussen!

Should we tell him about the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny?  Nah, let him dream. Very Happy

Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November - Page 3 Evil-Santa

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While we're talking polls, here's one that has Biden leading by three points in... TEXAS!

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1301939769316978689

I dunno if he'll actually win Texas, but it's gonna be fun watching Republicans have to spend their warchest fighting to hang onto it. Smile The clock's steadily ticking on that state, anyway -- if not this year, it's gonna start going blue within the next decade. And when that happens, the Republican party is fuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh-uuuuhckt! Smile

Until then, they're gonna have to fight to hold onto Texas for the rest of their political lives. Live in fear, GOP. Smile

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Every Trump Lie Is a Confession

Donald Trump played host to what can only be described as a deliberate COVID super-spreader event in Nevada on Sunday. It is journalistically perilous to bandy words like “deliberate” and “super-spreader,” but I watched every galling second of his rally at the Xtreme Manufacturing plant in Henderson, and those words deserve to share the same space as “water” and “wet” in the context of what went down in the desert yesterday.

A thousand of Trump’s most avid devotees came from miles around to stuff themselves into an enclosed indoor space, where they stood packed like cattle in a high-density field, maskless almost to a person, screaming and sweating all over each other in an orgiastic celebration of the death of reason.

I picture a COVID-19 virion, its crowns bristling red, feet up and reclined on its Barcalounger after a hard day at work killing people, looking serenely over that mob of reckless idolators before leaning to a virion friend and saying, “Hold my beer.” We will be hearing about the medical consequences from Sunday evening’s event before the calendar page turns, if the pattern holds, which it has with nearly unfailing consistency since this dismal year began.

Trump’s speech was an abomination of lies, distortions, exhortations and puling complaints. In other words, it was every speech he has given at every rally since he came down the golden escalator five years ago. It was a triumph of the mundane, proof itself of the banality of evil, so boring after endless repetition that none of the networks, not even C-SPAN, bothered to broadcast it. I had to work to find the thing.

As I let the bilge tide of Trump’s gibberish wash over me, however, I found myself encased in a rare moment of clarity. It is difficult to think straight when the president is ruining your country in real time at the top of his voice and right in your face. That, of course, is the entire point of the exercise. “For those who have been beaten down by the Trumpian disaster porn,” writes Tim Miller for The Bulwark, “rallies such as this don’t really make a mark any longer.”

As I watched this latest one, though, Trump seemed to me to be receding down a long hallway. I could hear him fine, but the mind-scrambling impact of his weaponized nonsense faded, and I found myself, for the first time in months, actually listening to what he was saying.

It came to me suddenly in a burst of inner light: Every accusation this man makes, every lie he tells, very nearly every word he speaks, is a public confession of his own corruption and venality. It is far beyond the Karl Rove tactic of using your opponent’s best strength against them. With Trump, it is a bending of the light itself, of reality, a transference of personal responsibility so comprehensive as to be virtually seamless.

It is difficult to think straight when the president is ruining your country in real time at the top of his voice and right in your face. That, of course, is the entire point of the exercise.
“Whether it’s in North Carolina, whether it’s in Michigan, whether it’s in other states where they’re sending out, they’re going to be sending out 80 million ballots,” said Trump yesterday in Nevada. “And it’s Democrats. They’re trying to rig this election, at every single place in the last year, year and a half, go modern day, forget about… Tiny amounts, a congressional race in New York, a small number of votes. If you go to New Jersey, if you go to Virginia, if you go to Pennsylvania, if you go to California, look at some of these races, every one of these races was a fraud, missing ballots. And I don’t mean like 1 percent. I mean like 20 percent, 25 percent, they’re trying to rig the election.”

… says the man who is actively attempting to dismantle the United States Postal Service and the practice of mail-in voting itself, because he believes the only way he can win the election at this point is to steal it. That was a confession.

“Sleepy Joe Biden, who surrendered, you know where he is now, he’s in his damn basement again,” said Trump yesterday. “No, he’s in his basement.”

… says the man who himself surrendered utterly to COVID-19, because doing otherwise required hard work and a dollop of humility, neither of which this president would recognize if they pissed in his face. He surrendered to that COVID-bait crowd before him, to his belligerent base, because they believed him when he called the pandemic a “hoax” all those weeks ago, and now he must maintain that deadly illusion in order to maintain their loyalty. Another confession.

“Biden and his party of liberal hypocrites want to lock law-abiding Americans in their homes, which is what they’re doing,” said Trump. “And they want to keep them out of church.”

… says the most irreligious president in U.S. history, whose use of the military and federal law enforcement against civilians — including snatching protesters off the street and stuffing them into unmarked vans — very nearly toppled the country into a constitutional crisis. Another confession.

“How about your gas prices?” asked Trump. “That’s not too bad, right? You didn’t think you’d ever see those prices, those under-two-dollar prices, did you? Thank you, President Trump, I appreciate it, sir.”

… says the man whose lethal bungling of the pandemic brought about an economic tailspin that will take years to recover from. Want to know why gasoline is so cheap? Because the price of petroleum happily collapsed to literally less than zero after the pandemic locked down travel all around the world. This, I suppose, was his confession to being incomprehensibly oblivious to and uninterested in the ocean of suffering he has unleashed.

It’s all one long stream-of-consciousness confession now. I hope I’m not the only one taking notes.

It is difficult to think straight when the president is ruining your country in real time at the top of his voice and right in your face. That, of course, is the entire point of the exercise.

https://truthout.org/articles/every-trump-lie-is-a-confession/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=f5fe9985-f2d5-4fc4-b155-cc9127935410

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Thom Hartmann:

Trump is Broke: Has He Already Sold Out America To Get the Money He Needs?
Back in the day, Donald Trump’s niece alleges, he stole hundreds of millions of dollars from his father‘s estate, screwing his other family members and the IRS (you and me).
He then went on a massive spending binge, pouring that money into airlines, steaks, vodka, Trump-branded games, casinos, a fake university, etc. Virtually all of them failed, and he experienced multiple bankruptcies.
Just at the time Donald was most wiped out and maybe even facing the possibility of homelessness, NBC rescued him with the Apprentice program. That paid him a few hundred million dollars more, which he used, along with massive loans, to buy some more hotels, including the one in Washington, DC.
But now those new hotels and golf courses aren’t doing so well, either, because he is such an incompetent businessman and because the virus is hurting the hotel business. As a result, in the next few years he’s going to have to pay off hundreds of millions of dollars in loans that he personally guaranteed at a time when his hotel properties around the world are generating virtually no revenue.
In other words, for the second time in his life, Donald Trump is almost certainly broke or on the verge of being broke.
When his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, hit that wall last year, he was able to hop on a US government plane and go to the Middle East, where dictators and fossil fuel billionaires who wanted the Trump administration to sell them advanced weaponry handed over the objections of Congress him over $1 billion.
We still don’t know how Trump and Kushner compromised American security and sold us out in exchange for that billion dollars for Jared, although historians will probably figure it out over the next decade.
Now Trump is going to have to come up with hundreds of millions of dollars and the question is: which dictator is he going to borrow it from, and what part of American policy or American assets is he willing to sell off, betray or destroy to get it?

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(Michael Moore on FB:)

Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November - Page 3 120965135_10157280662531857_6811699329592191534_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=swF7UjVKwNAAX_6p3Ka&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2

Donald Trump is The Drowning Man. Yesterday he called for the ARREST of Joe Biden! And of President Obama. And Hillary Clinton. These are the barking orders of any drowning dictator, gasping for his last breath. In a fit of mad lunacy, Trump lashed out at his own Attorney General for not arresting Biden, at his Sec of State for not indicting Hillary, at his FBI director for saying there’s no election fraud taking place (other than Trump dismantling the Post Office). Trump has been so crazed in the past 5 days, there is now talk of triggering the 25th Amendment to take power away from an incapacitated president.

The ejection/election is 3 weeks from Tuesday. We are barely going to get there. Trump, like all drowning men, is seized by a monumental panic. He knows it’s over. He knows there is nothing he can hang onto. He’s a goner. Rats are jumping from his gold-plated sinking ship. We will not save them either. Thoughts & prayers, GOP sycophants. Gulp. Gulp. Gulp.

In order to attain my Eagle Scout medal when I was in Boy Scouts, the final test I had to pass was to fight off a drowning man trying to drown me in the middle of the Flint Central High School pool. The adrenaline of a drowning person is massive & he/she is instantly empowered w/ an overwhelming strength. So when I jumped into the deep end of that pool, the “drowning” muscular adult came at me with a violent vengeance, grabbing my neck and pushing my head down under the water. If you’ve ever been in a situation like this you know it is terrifying. Your strength cannot match the strength of the drowning man. Your brain realizes that it is YOU in fact who is going to die. But I remembered my training & used the water to pull out of his grip, got behind him & wrapped my arm around his neck to neutralize him.

That is our job between now and November 3rd. Stop the drowning man from killing us. But absolutely know that in his delirious state, he can still drown US. The difference here, though, from the Eagle Scout training is clear — for the sake of our Democracy, make sure HE drowns, in a sea of ballots. A TSUNAMI of ballots! So many ballots he can’t come up for air to call for his armed uprising.

VOTE!!

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Floridatexan wrote:(Michael Moore on FB:)

Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November - Page 3 120965135_10157280662531857_6811699329592191534_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=swF7UjVKwNAAX_6p3Ka&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2

Donald Trump is The Drowning Man. Yesterday he called for the ARREST of Joe Biden! And of President Obama. And Hillary Clinton. These are the barking orders of any drowning dictator, gasping for his last breath. In a fit of mad lunacy, Trump lashed out at his own Attorney General for not arresting Biden, at his Sec of State for not indicting Hillary, at his FBI director for saying there’s no election fraud taking place (other than Trump dismantling the Post Office). Trump has been so crazed in the past 5 days, there is now talk of triggering the 25th Amendment to take power away from an incapacitated president.

The ejection/election is 3 weeks from Tuesday. We are barely going to get there. Trump, like all drowning men, is seized by a monumental panic. He knows it’s over. He knows there is nothing he can hang onto. He’s a goner. Rats are jumping from his gold-plated sinking ship. We will not save them either. Thoughts & prayers, GOP sycophants. Gulp. Gulp. Gulp.

In order to attain my Eagle Scout medal when I was in Boy Scouts, the final test I had to pass was to fight off a drowning man trying to drown me in the middle of the Flint Central High School pool. The adrenaline of a drowning person is massive & he/she is instantly empowered w/ an overwhelming strength. So when I jumped into the deep end of that pool, the “drowning” muscular adult came at me with a violent vengeance, grabbing my neck and pushing my head down under the water. If you’ve ever been in a situation like this you know it is terrifying. Your strength cannot match the strength of the drowning man. Your brain realizes that it is YOU in fact who is going to die. But I remembered my training & used the water to pull out of his grip, got behind him & wrapped my arm around his neck to neutralize him.

That is our job between now and November 3rd. Stop the drowning man from killing us. But absolutely know that in his delirious state, he can still drown US. The difference here, though, from the Eagle Scout training is clear — for the sake of our Democracy, make sure HE drowns, in a sea of ballots. A TSUNAMI of ballots! So many ballots he can’t come up for air to call for his armed uprising.

VOTE!!

Too funny, Michael Moore is a delusional freak and a fat slob. His BIG moment in life was going through lifeguard training as a kid - now that's funny.....

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"Michael Francis Moore (born April 23, 1954) is an American documentary filmmaker, author, and activist. His works frequently address the topics of globalization and capitalism.

Moore won the 2002 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature for Bowling for Columbine, which examined the causes of the Columbine High School massacre and the overall gun culture of the United States. He also directed and produced Fahrenheit 9/11, a critical look at the presidency of George W. Bush and the War on Terror, which earned $119,194,771 to become the highest-grossing documentary at the American box office of all time.[1] The film also won the Palme d'Or at the 2004 Cannes film festival.[2] His documentary Sicko, which examines health care in the United States, is one of the top ten highest-grossing documentaries as of 2020.[1] In September 2008, he released his first free movie on the internet, Slacker Uprising, which documented his personal quest to encourage more Americans to vote in presidential elections.[3] He has also written and starred in the TV shows TV Nation, a satirical news-magazine television series, and The Awful Truth, a satirical show. In 2018 he released his latest film, Fahrenheit 11/9, a documentary about the 2016 United States presidential election and the subsequent presidency of Donald Trump.

Moore's written and cinematic works criticize topics such as globalization, large corporations, assault weapon ownership, Presidents Bill Clinton,[4] George W. Bush and Donald Trump,[5] the Iraq War, the American health care system and capitalism overall. In 2005, Time named Moore one of the world's 100 most influential people.[6]..."

(wiki)

Let's hear all about your accomplishments.

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Another great one FT. Thanks for posting. I love you

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Watching this, the first thing that comes to my mind is the end of Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian.



A little background in case you haven't read it: Blood Meridian is an incredibly brutal, bloody novel about a bunch of scalphunters, with one of literature's nastiest, most evil villains ever created, a guy named Judge Holden, who is a fat, hairless guy who might be the Devil. He's very murderous and perverse and malevolent, causing chaos and horror just to revel in it.

At the end he does... something to the novel's protagonist. Probably sodomizes and kills him, but it's not really clear. Whatever it is, the people who see what's happened are stunned by how depraved it is... and they're used to all kinds of horrible goings-on. And then this murderous judge goes out and dances.


https://fallingfaintly.blogspot.com/2008/02/last-paragraph-of-cormac-mccarthys_12.html


And they are dancing, the board floor slamming under the jackboots and the fiddlers grinning hideously over their canted pieces. Towering over them all is the judge and he is naked dancing, his small feet lively and quick and now in doubletime and bowing to the ladies, huge and pale and hairless, like an enormous infant. He never sleeps, he says. He says he'll never die. He bows to the fiddlers and sashays backwards and throws back his head and laughs deep in his throat and he is a great favorite, the judge. He wafts his hat and the lunar dome of his skull passes palely under the lamps and he swings about and takes possession of one of the fiddles and he pirouettes and makes a pass, two passes, dancing and fiddling all at once. His feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die. He dances in light and in shadow and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.


Anyway, that's just the impression I get.

Trump's choice of music is really odd, and I almost think somebody on his staff is fucking with him. Last night some super-spreader rally opened with Phil Collins, "In The Air Tonight," which is a really odd and ominous choice to play for a crowd during a pandemic that's caused by an airborne virus. "I can feel it, comin' in the air tonight, oh lord..." I mean, I see nothing in there that feels inspirational about a candidate or anything.

Then, Trump loves "YMCA" and "Macho Man," both of which are gay anthems. Why he chooses those considering much of his base are gay-hatin' evangelicals, I'm not sure, but, whatever, have at it. I'm thinking Trump just likes the "Young man!" line in "YMCA" because he's in denial about being old, and probably takes "Macho Man" literally and thinks it'll portray him as a badass... I really don't know. Mostly I think that Trump's never really been into music much and he's stuck in the disco era because that's when he was young and partying and those are songs he heard. He seems to really love Elton John, and I've noticed that Elton John is often the favorite artist of a lot of people who really aren't into music but feel like they should say something. That's not a shot at Elton or the quality of his music -- plenty of people really into music also like him, too, but it's just he was really popular so even if you weren't interested in music, you were going to encounter his stuff, almost by default. So I'm thinking that's what's behind a lot of Trump's playlist... just stuff he knows. Same with his fascination for the Rolling Stones "You Can't Always Get What You Want," which isn't all that inspirational of a message for a political candidate.

Anyway, dude's just corny and it's kind of sad watching him dance around to old-timey stuff, although in light of the misery he's spread over this country, both in the pandemic and the chaotic division, it's also pretty creepy, watching him awkwardly dance around and pretending he hasn't wrecked America.

Maybe he should add this one to his next freakshow:

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Well, here's a new thing -- Donald Trump just bragged about ordering the assassination of an American citizen without trial.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1316801262277455872

That whole encounter already looked really suspicious -- they just blasted at the guy without making any apparent attempt to bring him in -- and now Trump says he sent them and "they didn't want to arrest him."

And his fucking "good Germans" CHEER for this.   Sick.  Just fucking sick.  Trump's cult has turned this country into the kind of place it used to fight against.

Whatever you think of the guy they shot (he did kill a guy, but was supposedly stopping that guy from killing someone else at the time), he deserved a trial.  But instead the cops just executed him.  His gun never left his pocket and they never said anything to him, just walked in firing around 40 rounds at him, and almost hitting bystanders.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-antifa-execution-us-marshals_n_5f8893d5c5b6f53fff099b85



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/us/michael-reinoehl-antifa-portland-shooting.html?smid=tw-share


On Sept. 3, about 120 miles north of Portland, Mr. Reinoehl was getting into his Volkswagen station wagon when a pair of unmarked sport utility vehicles roared through the quiet streets, screeching to a halt just in front of his bumper. Members of a U.S. Marshals task force jumped out and unleashed a hail of bullets that shattered windows, whizzed past bystanders and left Mr. Reinoehl dead in the street.

Attorney General William P. Barr trumpeted the operation as a “significant accomplishment” that removed a “violent agitator.” The officers had opened fire, he said, when Mr. Reinoehl “attempted to escape arrest” and “produced a firearm” during the encounter. But a reconstruction of what happened that night, based on the accounts of people who witnessed the confrontation and the preliminary findings of investigators, produces a much different picture — one that raises questions about whether law enforcement officers made any serious attempt to arrest Mr. Reinoehl before killing him.

In interviews with 22 people who were near the scene, all but one said they did not hear officers identify themselves or give any commands before opening fire. In their official statements, not yet made public, the officers offered differing accounts of whether they saw Mr. Reinoehl with a weapon. One told investigators he thought he saw Mr. Reinoehl raise a gun inside the vehicle before the firing began, but two others said they did not.

An AR-style rifle was found apparently untouched in a bag in his car.

Five eyewitnesses said in interviews that the gunfire began the instant the vehicles arrived. None of them saw Mr. Reinoehl holding a weapon. A single shell casing of the same caliber as the handgun he was carrying was found inside his car.

Garrett Louis, who watched the shooting begin while trying to get his 8-year-old son out of the line of fire, said the officers arrived with such speed and violence that he initially assumed they were drug dealers gunning down a foe — until he saw their law enforcement vests.

“I respect cops to the utmost, but things were definitely in no way, shape or form done properly,” Mr. Louis said.


Mr. Smith said he and his friends turned their heads to the sound of a vehicle accelerating rapidly, headed southbound toward the street where Mr. Reinoehl was walking. A second law enforcement S.U.V., which had been parked across from Mr. Smith’s house, moved in with such speed that the friends thought they were witnessing a road rage incident or a gang shooting.

Mr. Smith and Mr. Cutler ran after the unmarked S.U.V.s, watching as they turned onto Mr. Reinoehl’s street, one cutting the corner and speeding over the grass.

Nate Dinguss, who according to Lieutenant Brady lived in the apartment where Mr. Reinoehl was staying, said Mr. Reinoehl was chewing a gummy worm as he approached his station wagon, with a phone in one hand and a bag in the other.

Mr. Dinguss said in an interview that officers began jumping out of the vehicles before they had come to a complete stop, and that one of them opened fire immediately, before any commands had been given. Another man who was walking his dog nearby said that a burst of about 10 gunshots began almost immediately after the S.U.V.s came to a halt, and that he did not recall hearing any commands. Mr. Louis, who was on the other side of the scene, some 140 feet from Mr. Reinoehl, also said the police opened fire immediately, without giving any warnings — as did Mr. Smith and Mr. Cutler.

“There was no, ‘Get out of the car!’ There was no, ‘Stop!’ There was no nothing. They just got out of the car and started shooting,” Mr. Louis said.

Mr. Smith described it similarly: “There was no yelling. There was no screaming. There was no altercation. It was just straight to gunshots.”


In all, four officers fired 37 rounds from two rifles and two handguns, the investigators said.

A visit to the scene by a reporter, as well as videos and photos from the aftermath, showed that at least eight of the officers’ bullets struck civilian property.

Angel Romero, who lives directly adjacent to the shooting, said at least five bullets hit a brick wall and a wooden fence at his home. One traveled through an exterior wall and passed above his dog kennels and through his dining room — narrowly missing his brother before lodging in a kitchen wall. Mr. Romero’s neighbor found a smashed bullet in his backyard grass.

“They literally found ricochet bullets where my kid was,” Mr. Louis said.

Even if the dude did go to pull his gun -- which it's sketchy if he did -- if the officers didn't identify themselves as such, and didn't arrive in vehicles indicating that they were LEO, then the guy's not even out of line for pulling a gun. This is similar to what happened in the Brianna Taylor case -- cops bust in, don't say they're cops, and people shoot because they think it's a home-invasion rather than a law enforcement operation. If you bust in my house, I'm gonna shoot your ass, too. If you make it clear that you're the police, though, then the last thing I'd want to do is shoot at you. Most people aren't stupid enough to shoot at cops, because they know that always ends with you dead, since even if you get them, there'll always be more. Kill a cop and you're dead, it's just a matter of time. But they have to say who they are or it's a different situation. I'm a law-abiding citizen and unlikely to get in any tangle with cops. But right-wing militia goons might well hate my guts. I'm more likely to be shot by one of those assholes than any law-enforcement officer.


In any case, this is exactly what I've been telling y'all to beyond the point of obnoxiousness -- by having this horseshit "organization" version of "antifa" that Trump and his cult have cooked up and scared themselves with, it's given Trump carte blanche to imprison or kill anyone who opposes him, just by saying they're a "member of Antifa."   His followers are so full of hate and fear of this boogeyman group that they won't pause for a second to question anything -- they'll just immediately say the guy deserved it and be fine with suspending all rights.  Conservatives are always willing to "West Memphis Three" anybody.  If you're accused, that's good enough for them -- they'll stand back while somebody kills you, same as they'll turn a blind eye if they start sending trainloads of people to camps.   It's the kind of people they fucking are, I've known 'em all my damn life. If their neighbor says it then they're gonna say it because they don't want to take a chance on standing alone and becoming a target themselves. And you'll never prove you're not in an "organization" that isn't even a fucking organization. It's just a handy term to put on any target they want to do away with, and their base won't fucking question it.

Unless this shit ends a couple of weeks from now, eventually it'll become their turn, too, when they become inconvenient to Trump's plans, but they never look that far ahead.

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Where is Raphael Cruz Sr. when his country really needs him?

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Oh, well, now the whole Hunter Biden story makes complete logical sense, when it's explained.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316844679783223297.html

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So just so I follow this story:

Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who charges the insanely low price of $85.

He gets off the plane and drunk drives to the repair shop
(because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's *private* emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.


The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth and hands them the contents of these drives.


That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests.


Is this how stupid we are now?

No one who does data recovery would read through thousands of personal emails, even if the computer is abandoned. You'd just wipe the drives clean and sell the computers used.

If these emails were as alarming as it's being pushed, Giuliani wouldn't have sat on them for months.

And if Giuliani wanted to prove their validity, he'd turn them over to forensic experts.



Conservatives will believe anything that makes their enemies look bad, and they'll never question any of it.

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Lmao... you're a complete joke. Nothing matters... and I mean NOTHING that comes from the left. You are completely domesticated.

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#TRIGGERED..!!

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Here's a fun thing that's very consistent in conservatives.  You'll seldom not see it.  It's a "tell."  Whenever you give 'em some info that they don't know how to deal with, they almost always respond with "LOL" or "LMAO" or some variant of it.  They laugh when they're nervous.  They think it's an effective defense, but it's always just made them look really spastic.   Watch 'em, they'll seldom let you down with the "lol" thing.  It's like a reflex action.

Here's an especially creepy and ghoulish example of it being done in person:



Sorry for the nightmares.

Anyway, while I'm posting random things, this was pertinent:

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Meanwhile, Trump got warned, but he knows his base are a bunch of conspiracy-believing morons (like case in point Donald Trump Needs to Go. And No, We Can’t Wait Until November - Page 3 Man_pointing_up   Rolling Eyes ) so he knows he'll never be held accountable for a lie... so, he spreads ridiculous bullshit, anyway.  Why not, when they'll believe anything, anyway?  There's nothing to lose by feeding total bullshit to people with the intellectual capacity of a toddler.  I mean, they already believe vampire-pedophiles-are-working-out-of-the-basement-of-pizza-parlors, so why waste a perfectly good stupid-Giulliani-crock-o'-shit?  

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-said-warned-giuliani-conveying-121300326.html



Trump Said to Be Warned That Giuliani Was Conveying Russian Disinformation

WASHINGTON — The intelligence agencies warned the White House late last year that Russian intelligence officers were using President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani as a conduit for disinformation aimed at undermining Joe Biden’s presidential run, according to four current and former U.S. officials.

The agencies imparted the warning months before disclosing publicly in August that Moscow was trying to interfere in the election by taking aim at Biden’s campaign, officials said. Trump and Giuliani have promoted unsubstantiated claims about Biden that have aligned with Russian disinformation efforts, and Giuliani has met with a Ukrainian lawmaker who U.S. officials believe is a Russian agent.

Robert O’Brien, the national security adviser, presented the warning about Giuliani to Trump in December. Two former officials gave conflicting accounts about its nature. One said the report was presented to Trump as unverified and vague, but another said the intelligence agencies had developed solid and credible information that Giuliani was being “worked over” by Russian operatives.

Trump shrugged it off, officials said, but the first former official cautioned that his reaction could have been colored in part by other information given to him not long before that appeared to back some of Giuliani’s claims about Ukraine. The specifics of that material were unclear.

Giuliani did not return requests for comment. The Washington Post reported the intelligence agencies’ warning to the White House earlier Thursday.

The warning, the second former official said, was prompted by a meeting Dec. 5 between Giuliani and Andriy Derkach, a Ukrainian member of Parliament who takes pro-Kremlin positions. The Treasury Department recently labeled him “an active Russian agent for over a decade,” disclosing that he maintained ties to Moscow’s intelligence services as it imposed sanctions on him in September.

Giuliani’s campaign to undermine Biden has focused on his anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine while he was vice president and his son Hunter Biden’s work there on the board of a gas company owned by an oligarch widely seen as corrupt.

Derkach has been releasing tapes of the former vice president’s conversations with Ukrainian officials. U.S. officials said those tapes had been edited in misleading ways.

Giuliani has made multiple trips to Ukraine to gather material that is damaging to the Biden campaign, and his December visit came as he tried to shift the political conversation from impeachment proceedings against Trump to unsubstantiated claims about Biden’s wrongdoing.

He later hosted Derkach on his podcast and has repeatedly highlighted the Ukrainian’s claims against the Biden family.

Giuliani has accused the Bidens of protecting Burisma, the energy company where Hunter Biden was a board member. Those allegations are mostly baseless. While vice president, Biden took actions to fight corruption that Burisma would not have welcomed, Democrats have said.

Intelligence officials delivered a classified report to top Trump advisers late last year that included information related to Giuliani and disinformation efforts, according to a former administration official. Another official said Trump was involved in at least a casual discussion about those efforts.

But at the time, advisers were urging Trump to keep his distance from Giuliani amid the House impeachment inquiry. Giuliani had helped prompt the inquiry because of his push to undermine Biden and became a key figure in it. He expressed anger that he was tarnished during the impeachment inquiry, people briefed on conversations with him said, and has been seeking ever since to prove he was right about Biden.

Giuliani’s work seized attention in the presidential race again this week when the New York Post published articles about Biden and his son based on material Giuliani provided. The Biden campaign rejected the reports, and Facebook and Twitter deemed them so dubious that they limited access to them.

The New York Times has not been able to verify the information that Giuliani furnished to the Post, which he said came from a laptop left at a Delaware repair shop. The owner of the shop has given conflicting accounts to reporters, and Giuliani’s acquisition of the laptop has raised questions about the material on it.

Some former officials who have not reviewed the material suspect it could be Russian disinformation and noted Giuliani’s work with Derkach.

The intelligence warning to Trump in December had nothing to do with the laptop, a former official said.

Intelligence officials have issued a series of warnings about Derkach and other Ukrainians they believe are being used to spread disinformation, either directly by Russian intelligence or by oligarchs friendly to Moscow.

It has been known for months that Russian intelligence was using allies in Ukraine to spread disinformation and purported damaging material about Biden. Intelligence officials have warned Republicans in Congress that some of the people they were seeking information from were conduits for Russian disinformation.

But raising any issue related to Russian interference with the president is a challenge for the intelligence community. Trump, who views such intelligence as an attempt to undermine his legitimacy, has questioned it, and raising the issue will often derail his regular intelligence briefings by an analyst, so it has fallen to O’Brien to brief him on such matters, current and former officials have said.

Still, despite Trump’s skepticism, intelligence officials have repeatedly warned about Derkach.

In August, the Office of the Director of National intelligence said in a statement that Derkach was spreading disinformation about Biden. The CIA later issued a more detailed classified warning in its Worldwide Intelligence Review, a secret document read by members of Congress and the administration.

Giuliani was dealing with people widely believed to be at worst Russian operatives and at best conduits for Kremlin disinformation efforts, said current and former officials.


“Giuliani has made no secret he has met with people the intelligence community has identified as Russian operatives,” said Amos Hochstein, a former aide to Biden who served on the board of Ukraine’s gas company, Naftogaz. “It is widely known throughout Ukraine if you want to peddle any kind of information damaging to Vice President Biden, there is a receptive audience in Giuliani.”

Intelligence officials have asserted that Russia favors Trump’s reelection, and the Kremlin has allies among Ukraine’s own oligarchs, who believe Biden will fight corruption there more aggressively than the Trump administration has.

“There is a meeting of interests between what Giuliani wants to do and the notorious corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine,” Hochstein said. “The Ukrainian oligarchs are afraid the Joe Biden presidency returns the anti-corruption focus and the focus on good governance. They don’t want that. They know there is a market with Rudy Giuliani for information, real or fake, that is damaging to the vice president.”


Trump thinks his supporters are stupid.  For a very good reason -- they are stupid.   And they love being lied to.  They seek lies out and have turned lying to 'em into one of America's biggest industries, via FOX and OANN and hundreds of crudsuckers on YouTube.  They'll crawl over a hundred good facts to get to one sorry silly lie.  It's like their comfort food. Smile

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