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PkrBum wrote:In Google search type in any 3 digit number and "new cases". There's a corresponding headline/article for every one. Then try 4 digits. It's no coincidence. It's manipulation. Another interesting thing is that the testing results don't include asymptomatic numbers. There's not any correlation to the protests either. This isn't science. In a year or so some real application of science is (or should be) going to be an embarrassment.

Comrades are easy.

zsomething wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Here's a prediction. I've been thinking this for some time now. The news about the spread of the virus gets worse and worse every day. It is more difficult to ignore, has an impact on more families.

Individual One has his medical history shrouded in mystery. He can claim anything he wants about it. My prediction is that, in order to avoid facing a catastrophic loss in November (like the world has never seen!) he is going to resign from office using some medical excuse, let Pence or some other flunky head the ticket and complain/whine for the rest of his sorry life that: If I had been healthy enough I would have won the election! It was rigged! The Republicans didn't know how to run the campaign! I was the best president ever.

I'm just saying that he so hates the thought of being seen as a loser that he would rather resign than face the outcome of a landslide referendum on his miserable administration. He'd rather resign than have to go through the humiliation of greeting the Bidens at the white house on January 20th and sit through the swearing in ceremony and sit still while Joe gives his speech. I just have trouble trying to picture that. He is lacking so terribly in anything approaching social graces! I just can't imagine him suffering through that day. Of course he could run, lose and then resign?

It's possible.  I'm just not sure his ego would let him just quit.  He's so sure that people love him and think he's great (perfect in fact - even Hannity rolled his eyes at this 'un! https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1276328928123195392 ) that I'm not sure he'll believe the polls.  His followers always claim "the polls thought Hillary would win, too!", so they're gambling on long odds.  "Lightning struck that tree before, so I'm betting on it to get hit again!"   There's no reasoning with 'em.

What I think Trump will do is get beaten, then he'll claim it was due to "voter fraud," and his cult of followers will believe him.  Then he'll do what he was planning to do when he thought he was going to get beaten by Hillary -- he'll start a network that's even crazier than FOX and OAN, just for his cult members.  And they'll sit over there and get crazier and crazier and crazier.

Right-wingers are already fleeing to echo-chambers on the internet, little safe-spaces where they won't get fact-checked or refuted and can use the N-word and some of their other favorite slurs.  What that does is twofold:  it's (A) a white flag waving to show they surrender in the war of ideas, and (B) a great way to give up on recruiting, because nobody'll be going to those sites unless they're already like-minded.   They're just becoming even more of a cult...  and Trump's a crazy idiot, but he recognizes fools who can be exploited.  I think he'll cash in on what's left of his cult once he's voted out.  And they won't see him as a "loser" because they'd rather see the Dems as "cheaters."  

I mean, hell, look at 'em -- they still think the real crime around Flynn was holding him accountable.  The real bad guys, to them, are the people who investigated him... not him for doing corrupt things in the first place.  Their critical thinking skills are just flat-out gone.  They've got an empty toolbox.

PkrBum wrote:https://www.livescience.com/amp/cdc-combined-covid-19-diagnostic-and-antibody-tests.html

PkrBum wrote:As I linked earlier in this thread... there was also a CDC directive that overstated covid deaths on the certificates. Then there was undercounting on the nursing home deaths in NY, MI, NJ... etc. This has been a political football.

PkrBum wrote:https://slate.com/technology/2020/07/school-reopening-medical-case.html

Letters to the Editor: Since when did being a Republican require stupidity on masks?

Los Angeles Times Opinion•July 19, 2020


To the editor: Columnist Virginia Heffernan's criticism of the right's mask-refusal policies was well-written and erudite, but a little long-winded for me. I was hoping for something a little more pithy, like:

You microcephalous idiots, what's wrong with you? Don't you read anything? Masks protect you, but more importantly they protect your neighbors. If everyone wears one, ultimately you are protected, especially from the un-symptomatic carrier.

Non-mask wearers only exhibit their ignorance. If you don't wear a mask, you are selfish as well as stupid.

I write this as a right-wing, conservative Republican.

Megan Wagner, Newport Beach

To the editor: It's an article of faith with many conservatives that climate science has been politicized by the leftist educational establishment in order to scare people into voting left.

Evidence comes in the form of actual climate scientists (typically older ones) who concur on climate change and agree that much of it is anthropogenic, but complain it's been wildly exaggerated and resent being told what they may teach and publish in order to keep their jobs.

Unfortunately, many on the right have made the leap from that to the notion that all science is now political, including health science — hence the vaccine deniers, the mask scoffers and the idea that leftists are using the "communist" pandemic to destroy the American economy.

Many Republican leaders, led by the president himself, evidently believe this. The result is that they've been effectively killing off their own voting base.

The moral of the story is that you can't fight the left with stupidity; it's counterproductive.

Patrick M. Dempsey, Granada Hills

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To the editor: Wearing a bandage to protect an open sore against infection is a hoax. It is best to let that open sore ooze and fester.

So, don't be caught wearing a bandage in America; someone might think you care.

Ben Shaw, Chino

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To the editor: For those who refuse to wear a mask because doing so makes it harder to breathe and is uncomfortable, try a ventilator.

Anne Riswold, Los Osos

President Donald Trump is eyeing another unproven coronavirus "cure," at the recommendation of Housing and Urban Development Sec. Ben Carson, Axios reported Sunday.

Oleandrin — a botanical extract from the oleander plant — was suggested to the president by Carson in a meeting in the Oval Office in July, according to the Axios report.

MyPillow founder and CEO Mike Lindell, who's known to be well-connected with the president, also expressed support for the experimental extract. Lindell also has a financial stake in the company developing the oleandrin product, Phoenix Biotechnology.

Lindell told Axios that Trump "basically said: …'The FDA should be approving it,'" regarding oleandrin as a potential treatment for the coronavirus.

With the help of Lindell, Andrew Whitney, an executive at Phoenix Biotechnology, personally met with the president to discuss the medical effects of oleandrin, The Washington Post reported earlier this month.

In an interview with Axios, Whitney said he stood by his claim that oleandrin "cured" COVID-19 in a span of two days, and he is actively pushing for the botanical extract to make it to shelves — even as a dietary supplement instead of an approved coronavirus treatment to speed up its distribution.

"Now, there are all sorts of lawyers who would tell me I can't say things like that, because you know you need to have years of studies, and you need to have this, that, and the other, and so forth," Whitney told Axios. "But as an American with a right of free expression, I'm telling you, I've seen it with my own eyes."

zsomething wrote:Trump is a drug dealer.

Okay, so he bought up millions of doses of hydroxychloroquine and, to create a demand and make money off of it, told his idiot cultists it was a miracle cure.

Now, Mike Lindell, that creepy My Pillow guy, has invested a bunch of money in a company that makes a drug called Oleandrin, and so Trump is doing his buddy a solid by claiming that Oleandrin's a miracle cure for COVID, too.   Based on absolutely nothing except the desire to make his pal a few bucks.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reportedly-pushing-unproven-coronavirus-015618012.html

President Donald Trump is eyeing another unproven coronavirus "cure," at the recommendation of Housing and Urban Development Sec. Ben Carson, Axios reported Sunday.

Oleandrin — a botanical extract from the oleander plant — was suggested to the president by Carson in a meeting in the Oval Office in July, according to the Axios report.

MyPillow founder and CEO Mike Lindell, who's known to be well-connected with the president, also expressed support for the experimental extract. Lindell also has a financial stake in the company developing the oleandrin product, Phoenix Biotechnology.

Lindell told Axios that Trump "basically said: …'The FDA should be approving it,'" regarding oleandrin as a potential treatment for the coronavirus.

With the help of Lindell, Andrew Whitney, an executive at Phoenix Biotechnology, personally met with the president to discuss the medical effects of oleandrin, The Washington Post reported earlier this month.

In an interview with Axios, Whitney said he stood by his claim that oleandrin "cured" COVID-19 in a span of two days, and he is actively pushing for the botanical extract to make it to shelves — even as a dietary supplement instead of an approved coronavirus treatment to speed up its distribution.

"Now, there are all sorts of lawyers who would tell me I can't say things like that, because you know you need to have years of studies, and you need to have this, that, and the other, and so forth," Whitney told Axios. "But as an American with a right of free expression, I'm telling you, I've seen it with my own eyes."

Basically, if you're a buddy of Trump's, and you've got a lot of money sunk into eye of newt, Trump's gonna tell everybody that eye of newt will cure everything.  He doesn't give a shit about the science, or if it actually helps anyone or not, because that doesn't matter -- if it sells, Mike Pillow will make even MORE money.  Like his weird creepy ass even needs it.

The corruption in this administration is so obvious a child could spot it... but Trump's supporters refuse to admit it.   They're still trying to find some molehill that Obama might've done, while they're in the shadow of the fucking Matterhorn.

Floridatexan wrote:

Oleander is a highly poisonous plant, very toxic even in small doses, including smoke from burning.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3089829/